Steven Crowder smashes Vox

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Why don’t you watch one of the videos in the OP and quit running your cacksucker?

Why are you pretending to be a moron? You're not. If Crowder wants to stop his phag-stuff, maybe he can work his way back into the mainstream. It's up to him. This isn't complicated, guy.

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

8 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Why are you pretending to be a moron? You're not. If Crowder wants to stop his phag-stuff, maybe he can work his way back into the mainstream. It's up to him. This isn't complicated, guy.

He addressed everything that you keep repeating over and over. You’re talking about something you don’t really know about or even care to learn about. It won’t  be long till this conversation evolves into a$$ licking and all the other topics you actually like discussing.

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

He addressed everything that you keep repeating over and over. You’re talking about something you don’t really know about or even care to learn about. It won’t  be long till this conversation evolves into a$$ licking and all the other topics you actually like discussing.

I'm actually shocked Hardcore hasn't already brought that up.  Give him time. 

So explain the whole Crowder/Youtube thing to me. I'll pretend I don't already know.  Go!

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

I'm actually shocked Hardcore hasn't already brought that up.  Give him time. 

So explain the whole Crowder/Youtube thing to me. I'll pretend I don't already know.  Go!

Just watch one of the videos in the OP and once you’re done we can talk about it.

[The Observer 641]

1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

Just watch one of the videos in the OP and once you’re done we can talk about it.

I gave you your chance. You passed.   Like I said, Crowder will drop the phag-stuff and life will go on. We all get smarter as we age.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,480]

46 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Crowder will figure it out. Most second graders would.

YOU still haven't been able to figure it out. 

Jesus, dude, you make this easy. 

[Herbivore 904]

38 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Just watch one of the videos in the OP and once you’re done we can talk about it.

this from the guy who won't open cnn links...

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

34 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

this from the guy who won't open cnn links...

I don’t want their remarketing ads. Post the text and I’ll read it bub.

[Herbivore 904]

15 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

I don’t want their remarketing ads. Post the text and I’ll read it bub.

do they even do that..I don't think I have ever seen one.  

Looking the links up at all stemmed from this post by me, and Big Guy writing its the leftist tactic of some weak poo like that.  the link at the bottom was in the cnn article.  

(CNN)Next time you're watching a campaign rally for a politician, or a glitzy premiere, take a close look at the enthusiastic faces waving banners at the front.

There is a good chance that some are paid performers. If they are, it is likely that one Adam Swart put them there.

Los Angeles-based entrepreneur Swart has pioneered the 'supporter-for-hire' business.

 

 

His start-up Crowds on Demand, launched in 2012, has established itself as a popular resource for any party in need of guests.

 

"The company started as a way for up-and-coming celebrities to get more attention," explains Swart, a UCLA political science graduate. "If you are surrounded with bodyguards and paparazzi you are taken more seriously."

"Then we started fielding political requests - to provide crowds for world leaders and US political candidates at federal, state, and local level, or to conduct rallies and protests in support or opposition to an issue."

The company repertoire has now expanded to cover product launches, PR stunts, and social justice movements. One popular side-line is using crowds to apply pressure to one side - or even both - of a corporate litigation dispute.

 

Swart claims the business has "more than doubled" in size each year, and can now call on tens of thousands of performers to cover several events each day, in dozens of cities across the US

The next step is going global.

"We get a lot of requests to do international events... but we have to make sure we are operating within all applicable laws," says Swart. "Many countries don't have the same protection of assembly."

The CEO hopes to begin with the UK, Dubai and India within 18 months, testing the waters with uncontroversial celebrity events.

Crowds you can control

The return on investment for clients is variable, but Swart is confident his services offer value.

"When a clients spends $10,000 on a protest and wins a $20 million settlement, that's a clear return on investment," says the entrepreneur.

"Other situations are harder to decipher -- it may be more 'can we shift the media narrative?' 'Did we get more press coverage or photo opportunities?' There are many ways to judge our services and their effectiveness - some quantitative, other qualitative."

The role of crowd members is carefully calibrated. Recruits are generally actors, who are expected be enthusiastic, but not so zealous as to risk arrest. Critically, they must look and sound authentic.

"They almost always hold signs and chant, and sometimes talk to media on behalf of the event," says Swart.

Employees also sign non-disclosure forms that protect the client's anonymity, to avoid the embarrassment of their paying for support coming to light.

In rare cases where the practice has been exposed, such as with Donald Trump's hiring of supporters, it has been heavily criticized.

But Swart is comfortable with the ethics of his business:

"We didn't invent this," the entrepreneur says. "People are just looking for ways to spread a message in an unconventional, interesting and effective way. Before this you could spend $100,000 to put an ad in the Washington Post. Now you can spend a tenth of that to get right in front of people."

Tip of the iceberg

The business model is spreading. Ukrainian company Easycrowd predates Swart's company, while Crowds for Rent and Rent a Crowd were recently launched in the US and UK respectively.

These novel companies represent only the most visible feature of a sprawling landscape of manufactured support.

"There are similar types of consulting firms that provide a vast menu of 'grassroots' services," says Dr. Edward Walker, Professor of Sociology at UCLA and author of Grassroots for Hire.

"These include mass letter-writing or emailing, ghostwriting blog posts, locating data on likely sympathizers for your cause... even creating whole new 'front' or 'third party' organizations to serve as a mouthpiece for the campaign's funder."

"Considering all of the PR and lobbying firms that do what I call 'grassroots for hire'... there are hundreds of such firms across the country. By my estimate, around 40% of the Fortune 500 appears on the client list of at least one such firm."

Walker sees technology as a driving influence of the trend, citing Uber's use of its network to pressure New York Mayor Bill De Blasio -- with a 'De Blasio button' on its app -- as an example of commercial companies' increasing ability to mobilize users to campaign on their behalf.

Another driver of the business is the growing value of crowds in the age of mass media.

"The appearance of grassroots support is critical for gaining attention on social media," says Walker. "It is critical to have an enthusiast community that can support your cause and act as ambassadors for it."

The Professor adds that companies risk reputation damage if their use of paid supporters is unmasked, but the practice seems set to grow, particularly in the arena of politics.

"The rise of campaign finance makes it possible, (and) the massive expansion of the PR industry," says Lisa Graves of monitoring group PR Watch. "As more big money is injected into campaigns... these efforts to deceive the public with fake crowds will continue to expand."

For entrepreneurs such as Swart, the current surge in demand for hired crowds offers boundless opportunity.

But as the industry grows, so too will the challenge of remaining hidden.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/fake-it-till-you-make-it-trump-and-clintons-bogus-fans/news-story/9cf6a679e9cfda4fac947c9289822a0f

[Herbivore 904]

oops didn't add the post I referenced....I find it odd that people over there protest about Trump as much as they seem to...and that people would find the need to show support for him.  But, its nice, I like the quotes by the pub owner, he's getting some good press.

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

24 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

do they even do that..I don't think I have ever seen one.  

Looking the links up at all stemmed from this post by me, and Big Guy writing its the leftist tactic of some weak poo like that.  the link at the bottom was in the cnn article.  

(CNN)Next time you're watching a campaign rally for a politician, or a glitzy premiere, take a close look at the enthusiastic faces waving banners at the front.

There is a good chance that some are paid performers. If they are, it is likely that one Adam Swart put them there.

Los Angeles-based entrepreneur Swart has pioneered the 'supporter-for-hire' business.

 

 

His start-up Crowds on Demand, launched in 2012, has established itself as a popular resource for any party in need of guests.

 

"The company started as a way for up-and-coming celebrities to get more attention," explains Swart, a UCLA political science graduate. "If you are surrounded with bodyguards and paparazzi you are taken more seriously."

"Then we started fielding political requests - to provide crowds for world leaders and US political candidates at federal, state, and local level, or to conduct rallies and protests in support or opposition to an issue."

The company repertoire has now expanded to cover product launches, PR stunts, and social justice movements. One popular side-line is using crowds to apply pressure to one side - or even both - of a corporate litigation dispute.

 

Swart claims the business has "more than doubled" in size each year, and can now call on tens of thousands of performers to cover several events each day, in dozens of cities across the US

The next step is going global.

"We get a lot of requests to do international events... but we have to make sure we are operating within all applicable laws," says Swart. "Many countries don't have the same protection of assembly."

The CEO hopes to begin with the UK, Dubai and India within 18 months, testing the waters with uncontroversial celebrity events.

Crowds you can control

The return on investment for clients is variable, but Swart is confident his services offer value.

"When a clients spends $10,000 on a protest and wins a $20 million settlement, that's a clear return on investment," says the entrepreneur.

"Other situations are harder to decipher -- it may be more 'can we shift the media narrative?' 'Did we get more press coverage or photo opportunities?' There are many ways to judge our services and their effectiveness - some quantitative, other qualitative."

The role of crowd members is carefully calibrated. Recruits are generally actors, who are expected be enthusiastic, but not so zealous as to risk arrest. Critically, they must look and sound authentic.

"They almost always hold signs and chant, and sometimes talk to media on behalf of the event," says Swart.

Employees also sign non-disclosure forms that protect the client's anonymity, to avoid the embarrassment of their paying for support coming to light.

In rare cases where the practice has been exposed, such as with Donald Trump's hiring of supporters, it has been heavily criticized.

But Swart is comfortable with the ethics of his business:

"We didn't invent this," the entrepreneur says. "People are just looking for ways to spread a message in an unconventional, interesting and effective way. Before this you could spend $100,000 to put an ad in the Washington Post. Now you can spend a tenth of that to get right in front of people."

Tip of the iceberg

The business model is spreading. Ukrainian company Easycrowd predates Swart's company, while Crowds for Rent and Rent a Crowd were recently launched in the US and UK respectively.

These novel companies represent only the most visible feature of a sprawling landscape of manufactured support.

"There are similar types of consulting firms that provide a vast menu of 'grassroots' services," says Dr. Edward Walker, Professor of Sociology at UCLA and author of Grassroots for Hire.

"These include mass letter-writing or emailing, ghostwriting blog posts, locating data on likely sympathizers for your cause... even creating whole new 'front' or 'third party' organizations to serve as a mouthpiece for the campaign's funder."

"Considering all of the PR and lobbying firms that do what I call 'grassroots for hire'... there are hundreds of such firms across the country. By my estimate, around 40% of the Fortune 500 appears on the client list of at least one such firm."

Walker sees technology as a driving influence of the trend, citing Uber's use of its network to pressure New York Mayor Bill De Blasio -- with a 'De Blasio button' on its app -- as an example of commercial companies' increasing ability to mobilize users to campaign on their behalf.

Another driver of the business is the growing value of crowds in the age of mass media.

"The appearance of grassroots support is critical for gaining attention on social media," says Walker. "It is critical to have an enthusiast community that can support your cause and act as ambassadors for it."

The Professor adds that companies risk reputation damage if their use of paid supporters is unmasked, but the practice seems set to grow, particularly in the arena of politics.

"The rise of campaign finance makes it possible, (and) the massive expansion of the PR industry," says Lisa Graves of monitoring group PR Watch. "As more big money is injected into campaigns... these efforts to deceive the public with fake crowds will continue to expand."

For entrepreneurs such as Swart, the current surge in demand for hired crowds offers boundless opportunity.

But as the industry grows, so too will the challenge of remaining hidden.

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/fake-it-till-you-make-it-trump-and-clintons-bogus-fans/news-story/9cf6a679e9cfda4fac947c9289822a0f

Yes they do that. Any company that has an online presence does that. I actually handle all the remarketing and other online advertising for the company that I work for. The second you land on their homepage your IP gets added to their remarketing campaign and I don’t feel like seeing their bogus ads. 

 

Interesting article. So you agree most of the protests are BS?

[Herbivore 904]

9 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Yes they do that. Any company that has an online presence does that. I actually handle all the remarketing and other online advertising for the company that I work for. The second you land on their homepage your IP gets added to their remarketing campaign and I don’t feel like seeing their bogus ads. 

 

Interesting article. So you agree most of the protests are BS?

maybe I don't get cnn ones cause I visit it enough...look for a washing machine one time though and its ads for months.  

I don't know about most protests being BS, but have to be suspect of the numbers from here on out.  As an example only, one of the items referenced is Trump paying for event attendees, maybe true maybe not, but I would think that at some point he would have lost the need to pay for attendees.  Where is that point?  are the attendees now there for the show?  true support?  Did a paid event attender influence this?  or was it organic?  etc..

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

3 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

maybe I don't get cnn ones cause I visit it enough...look for a washing machine one time though and its ads for months.  

I don't know about most protests being BS, but have to be suspect of the numbers from here on out.  As an example only, one of the items referenced is Trump paying for event attendees, maybe true maybe not, but I would think that at some point he would have lost the need to pay for attendees.  Where is that point?  are the attendees now there for the show?  true support?  Did a paid event attender influence this?  or was it organic?  etc..

They probably have something setup where if you visited within the last 180/120/90/60/40 days not to show that IP any ads.

I think it’s all bs. I’m a trump supporter but I have better things to do than spend my afternoon of evening at a rally. I do think most of his attendees are organic though at this point in time. I think our lives are becoming more and more like the Truman Show with the larger reach mass media has each decade. I pretty much don’t believe anything I read or see unless it comes from a grassroots level. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,563]

Crowders shirt says socialism is for figs. Fwiw

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,480]

Great article on that POS Carlos Maza:

 

"Carlos Maza's Reign of Terror"

https://humanevents.com/2019/06/06/carlos-mazas-reign-of-terror/?utm_referrer=https://www.google.com/

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Great article on that POS Carlos Maza:

 

"Carlos Maza's Reign of Terror"

https://humanevents.com/2019/06/06/carlos-mazas-reign-of-terror/?utm_referrer=https://www.google.com/

He’s a piece of sh!t human being. Quite literally tried to take the food off Crowder and all his employees plates. I hope he breaks his neck. 

[Herbivore 904]

1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Crowders shirt says socialism is for figs. Fwiw

does that have some special meaning..other than being a bs cop out.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,480]

27 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

does that have some special meaning..other than being a bs cop out.

Not a cop out. The shirt is in reference to the marxist and mass murder che Guevara nd his execution in la huguera, Bolivia which means the fig tree in Spanish.

It's also in reference to The left who idolizes Guevara but who brutalized minorities and homosexuals.

Which is funny because Carlos Maza identifies as a Marxist and is gay.  His whole ideology is designed to oppress and murder people just like him.

So the shirt is supposed to point out the absurdity of the left.

Sorry if that doesn't fit the narrative you were told to push.

[Herbivore 904]

38 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Not a cop out. The shirt is in reference to the marxist and mass murder che Guevara nd his execution in la huguera, Bolivia which means the fig tree in Spanish.

It's also in reference to The left who idolizes Guevara but who brutalized minorities and homosexuals.

Which is funny because Carlos Maza identifies as a Marxist and is gay.  His whole ideology is designed to oppress and murder people just like him.

So the shirt is supposed to point out the absurdity of the left.

Sorry if that doesn't fit the narrative you were told to push.

yeah, I dont know..seems shady.  does it say figs or f*gs?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,480]

1 minute ago, Herbivore said:

yeah, I dont know..seems shady.  does it say figs or f*gs?

It's not a "*" in the middle.  It's a symbol/picture of a fig tree.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Again, as I said, its not just about crowder or people on youtube getting banned.  There are TWO components.

1.  Social media and other places ban right wing extremists.

2.  Madonna says someone should kill Trump and nothing happens to her.  Maxine Waters says people should confront republicans in everyday life and she is allowed a seat in congress.

People keep forgetting the second part.  Maxine Waters needs to be removed IMMEDIATELY from congress and never be allowed back.  Madonna should be totally demonetized forever and probably thrown in jail.  If those sorts of things do not occur, you are going to get civil war. There is no bargaining here.  Remove Maxine Waters.  Right NOW.

[Voltaire 4,550]

6 hours ago, The Observer said:

As I said, I hate no race, no religion, no sexual orientation, no gender.  No one.  Which isa why I'm free to post on YouTube.,  Your buddy, Crowder, will be also. If he drops the hatred. YouTube has a very clear no harassment policy. It's cut and dry. Not up for debate.

YouTubes policies aren't cut and dried and are arbitrarily enforced. All that is left are mainline conservativest since the fringe is long banned while the whackaloon fringe left has been left alone and the most fringe nonsense gets the most attention.

Its now moderate, sensible right vs Coocoo for CoCo Puffs left vs corporate media on social media now.

[drobeski 3,061]

1 hour ago, Herbivore said:

yeah, I dont know..seems shady.  does it say figs or f*gs?

Take the loss like a man

[The Observer 641]

3 hours ago, Herbivore said:

does that have some special meaning..other than being a bs cop out.

It's like spelling it 'cack' to avoid the filter on here. This homophobe pusssy thinks that changing the spelling makes him less of a hateful dooshbag. Fortunately, people are much smarter than this and his bigoted dooshbag fans. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,480]

5 minutes ago, The Observer said:

It's like spelling it 'cack' to avoid the filter on here. This homophobe pusssy thinks that changing the spelling makes him less of a hateful dooshbag. Fortunately, people are much smarter than this and his bigoted dooshbag fans. 

The only bigots are you and your crowd.  Listen, you repeating this nonsense doesn't make it any less inaccurate.  it's as far from the truth as possible.

Like someone said earlier, take the loss like a man instead of regurgitating talking points your liberal masters tell you to spout.

[The Observer 641]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

The only bigots are you and your crowd.  Listen, you repeating this nonsense doesn't make it any less inaccurate.  it's as far from the truth as possible.

Like someone said earlier, take the loss like a man instead of regurgitating talking points your liberal masters tell you to spout.

Sorry loser. It's not 1950. If you're a homophobe and a hateful ######, you will lose some liberties. Go start your own naza white supremacists country if that's what youre looking for.  Hth 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,563]

12 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Sorry loser. It's not 1950. If you're a homophobe and a hateful ######, you will lose some liberties. Go start your own naza white supremacists country if that's what youre looking for.  Hth 

So when a phag wears the shirt is he homophobic?

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,480]

25 minutes ago, The Observer said:

Sorry loser. It's not 1950. If you're a homophobe and a hateful ######, you will lose some liberties. Go start your own naza white supremacists country if that's what youre looking for.  Hth 

Uhm...sorry.  You're the loser here.  You're the one who's confused about what is truth and what is fiction.

Your side has brainwashed you well, bigot.  Your love of fascism and totalitarianism is astonishing.

[shorepatrol 1,734]

1 hour ago, The Observer said:

Sorry loser. It's not 1950. If you're a homophobe and a hateful ######, you will lose some liberties. Go start your own naza white supremacists country if that's what youre looking for.  Hth 

You're definitely suppressing some deep seeded homo as angry and irrational as you are.   

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

 

[iam90sbaby 2,118]

CNN video has 284 upvotes and 6.4k downvotes

 

[12th Man 884]

19 hours ago, The Observer said:

Sorry loser. It's not 1950. If you're a homophobe and a hateful ######, you will lose some liberties. Go start your own naza white supremacists country if that's what youre looking for.  Hth 

I bet  you beat yourself  up for  being white.

 

[The Observer 641]

5 minutes ago, 12th Man said:

I bet  you beat yourself  up for  being white.

 

I love being white. I also love everybody else. Just like Jesus would want me to.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,552]

1 hour ago, 12th Man said:

I bet  you beat yourself  up for  being white.

 

He's attempted to do something about that.