naomi 343 Posted June 27, 2019 What do you think makes you Centrist? Besides just being seemingly center of the aisle, what is it worldview and personality wise that lands you there (in a few sentences). What do you think is the biggest commonality amongst Centrists? What are the top 3 most important issues to you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted June 27, 2019 I like to keep the clowns to the left of me and the jokers to the right. 1. Fiscal responsibility 2. Fishing and hunting rights 3. Energy and Industry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted June 27, 2019 I used to be centrist. Hell even left of center. But the Democrats have gone bat sh1t insane so they pushed me so far right I think Reagan is a loony liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted June 27, 2019 I support gay marriage and abortion. I don't think churches should have to marry gays, bakers shouldn't have to bake gay cakes, and women should fund their own abortions. I don't believe in man made global warming. I do believe in recycling and oppose polluting. I oppose illegal immigration, but I support legal immigration. I consider myself a Libertarian. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: I used to be centrist. Hell even left of center. But the Democrats have gone bat sh1t insane so they pushed me so far right I think Reagan is a loony liberal. I was left-of-center/middle up until about 10-12 years ago. I even voted for GW Bush in 2000. The WMD/war stuff combined with great recession moved me farther left just in time for Obama's first term. The hatred and resentment towards him moved me even farther left. My Trump hatred hasn't moved me any further left, but my disbelief at the acceptance and refusal to speak out against him, plus the barely-recognizable GOP these days, assures that I will be staying firmly where I'm at. There are times when the left gets so crazy-left that it makes me want to point out I'm nowhere near in-line with the whackos of the party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: I support gay marriage and abortion. I don't think churches should have to marry gays, bakers shouldn't have to bake gay cakes, and women should fund their own abortions. I don't believe in man made global warming. I do believe in recycling and oppose polluting. I oppose illegal immigration, but I support legal immigration. I consider myself a Libertarian. I actually share every one of your thoughts with the exception of global warming. And bakers. I even agree with your thoughts about women funding their own abortions, with the exception of those in financial hardship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted June 27, 2019 I agree with different things on each side, I have things I don’t like about each side, I don’t blindly vote For a candidate because they are part of a certain party, I always examine the individual running. That being said, Dems just have been horrible lately with zero candidates I like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted June 27, 2019 I was a centrist when I started posting here. if I had to put myself into a category it would be libertarian now. I hate both sides equally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 343 Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, edjr said: I was a centrist when I started posting here. if I had to put myself into a category it would be libertarian now. I hate both sides equally. Why more specifically libertarian now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted June 27, 2019 49 minutes ago, Herbivore said: Who're. This is exactly what I was going to post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted June 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, edjr said: I was a centrist when I started posting here. if I had to put myself into a category it would be libertarian now. I hate both sides equally. And both hate you, the price of being a Libertarian. Government fiscal responsibility would be the biggest centrist issue I would say. Both sides suck at it. Jobs would be #2, IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,191 Posted June 27, 2019 46 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said: I support gay marriage and abortion. I don't think churches should have to marry gays, bakers shouldn't have to bake gay cakes, and women should fund their own abortions. I don't believe in man made global warming. I do believe in recycling and oppose polluting. I oppose illegal immigration, but I support legal immigration. I consider myself a Libertarian. I agree with most of this. The exception is I am open to MMGW, I just don't believe the cult wants to actually solve it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted June 27, 2019 No issues are important to me, none of them affect me in the real world. I have my bills to pay and that’s it. Barney the dinosaur could be president and it wouldn’t matter to me. It’s all just an oil/land/drug racket. What makes me centrist is seeing merit to things both sides can offer and not having blind allegiance to a party. I want drama and intrigue, the real world is boring. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted June 27, 2019 I care enough to vote...........but not enuff to argue about it day and night........ Every damn day and night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted June 27, 2019 Alot of non-centrists posting their view in this thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, MTSkiBum said: I like to keep the clowns to the left of me and the jokers to the right. 1. Fiscal responsibility 2. Fishing and hunting rights 3. Energy and Industry I'll add 4. States Rights 5. Gay Marriage 6. Restrict Abortions - Not eliminate them completely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted June 27, 2019 I have some areas that I lean left (let the gays marry, let woman have abortions, affordable healthcare) and some areas that I lean right (gun's don't need to be overly restricted, get the deadbeats off welfare, restrict immigration). I think that what makes me more centrist is that many of these areas have groups that go too far one way on the issue. For example, with abortions, I think that the righties go too far in wanting to restrict them to before there is a "fetal heartbeat" or ignore cases of incest, rape or an unviable fetus. I think that the lefties are too far left in that they want to have unfettered access to abortions including late term "convenience" abortions and with kids who don't have parental consent. Most issues are not black and white. I see myself as being in the middle on many of these issues where both sides are somewhat unreasonable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 27, 2019 22 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: Alot of non-centrists posting their view in this thread. You want zero replies? Today's political landscape doesn't really allow for a centrist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Observer said: I was left-of-center/middle up until about 10-12 years ago. I even voted for GW Bush in 2000. The WMD/war stuff combined with great recession moved me farther left just in time for Obama's first term. The hatred and resentment towards him moved me even farther left. My Trump hatred hasn't moved me any further left, but my disbelief at the acceptance and refusal to speak out against him, plus the barely-recognizable GOP these days, assures that I will be staying firmly where I'm at. There are times when the left gets so crazy-left that it makes me want to point out I'm nowhere near in-line with the whackos of the party. When my choice is a free-for-all at the boarder or Men using woman’s bathrooms, or not, my hand is forced. You seem to have liked the hand you were dealt, I don’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted June 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, The Observer said: You want zero replies? Today's political landscape doesn't really allow for a centrist The climate is perfect for a centrist, do not let the polarizing media fool you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: When my choice is a free-for-all at the boarder or Men using woman’s bathrooms, or not, my hand is forced. You seem to have liked the hand you were dealt, I don’t. I was perfectly happy with the lowest rate of immigration in 50 years that we had during Obama's last term. The border free-for-all is 100% Trump's fault. Now he's trying to figure out how to fix the disaster he created. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, MTSkiBum said: The climate is perfect for a centrist, do not let the polarizing media room you. * roon I agree. I think that a centrist could be good at the polls in the General Election. The problem is that they would have a hard time winning their respective primary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: * roon I agree. I think that a centrist could be good at the polls in the General Election. The problem is that they would have a hard time winning their respective primary. Trump is a centrist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MTSkiBum 1,594 Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: * roon I agree. I think that a centrist could be good at the polls in the General Election. The problem is that they would have a hard time winning their respective primary. Autocorrect on the phone i probably need to get back to work anyways. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted June 27, 2019 Just now, iam90sbaby said: Trump is a narcissist. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted June 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: Everyone is entitled to their opinion on that. He is. His base might not be, but he is one of the more centered presidents we’ve had in decades. Briefly going over this might do you some good: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577 Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: I support gay marriage and abortion. I don't think churches should have to marry gays, bakers shouldn't have to bake gay cakes, and women should fund their own abortions. I don't believe in man made global warming. I do believe in recycling and oppose polluting. I oppose illegal immigration, but I support legal immigration. I consider myself a Libertarian. Me except while I am against abortion I believe middle ground needs to be there and that should be a reasonable time frame. 20 weeks is as long as I could feasibly agree to but I think first trimester personally is where I would argue Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577 Posted June 27, 2019 17 minutes ago, The Observer said: I was perfectly happy with the lowest rate of immigration in 50 years that we had during Obama's last term. The border free-for-all is 100% Trump's fault. Now he's trying to figure out how to fix the disaster he created. Why do you keep spouting that nonsense about Obama and immigration. Already tore it down last time and you didn’t t even respond yet here you are trying to do it again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,114 Posted June 27, 2019 2 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: I support gay marriage and abortion. I don't think churches should have to marry gays, bakers shouldn't have to bake gay cakes, and women should fund their own abortions. I don't believe in man made global warming. I do believe in recycling and oppose polluting. I oppose illegal immigration, but I support legal immigration. I consider myself a Libertarian. I'm with you on the top 3. I consider myself a conservative because when push comes to shove, I will always chose logic over emotion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: He is. His base might not be, but he is one of the more centered presidents we’ve had in decades. Briefly going over this might do you some good: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump He might be the only one who was pro-choice for 68 years and then became pro-life the day before coming down the escalator, also. I don't care what his 'policies' are. He is so over-the-top racist and bigoted, that he could never be labeled a centrist. He's nearly Arthur Jones-level radical right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: Why do you keep spouting the hat nonsense about Obama and immigration. Already tore it down last time and you didn’t t even respond yet here you are trying to do it again You're denying that there's a huge immigration surge since 'Mr Only I Can Fix It' took office? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted June 27, 2019 1 minute ago, The Observer said: I don’t care what the facts say. I already have my opinion formed and that’s all that matters. Okay then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted June 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said: The climate is perfect for a centrist, do not let the polarizing media fool you. The media is built on fools like him. Trump won on centrism. The Republicans didn't even want him. But now you see what a centrist is up against. A politician without a safe harbor. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Observer 641 Posted June 27, 2019 9 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: It's hard for me to accept other opinions of the Donald while his ball sack is in my mouth. Okay then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted June 27, 2019 3 hours ago, naomi said: What are the top 3 most important issues to you? 1. Allow internet poker (which is free $ so it fits with my next statement). Give me the same free $ that welfare losers get and fix SS so that is solvent for my entire lifetime. I'm paying a shitton of $ into it and I want it back. 2. Tell the crybaby lefties 'shut up, fock off' & 'no' on every protest they try. 3. Kill all hardcore criminals and worthless sub humans. Encourage criminals in prison to kill each other. Make prisons so scary that just the thought of landing in one would make you your pants. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted June 27, 2019 I look for the downfall of Clown World and the destruction of cities in fire. (I will send the first person who knows where I got that from $100). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577 Posted June 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, The Observer said: You're denying that there's a huge immigration surge since 'Mr Only I Can Fix It' took office? Nope there isn’t it’s same as it has been. Obama’s immigration numbers are skewed because he’s the only president to count people turned away at the border as deportation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mungwater 588 Posted June 27, 2019 I don’t care enough to even vote, if I don’t live in one of the swing states, it really doesn’t matter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,114 Posted June 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Observer said: I was perfectly happy with the lowest rate of immigration in 50 years that we had during Obama's last term. The border free-for-all is 100% Trump's fault. Now he's trying to figure out how to fix the disaster he created. I'm sorry, but I see zero logic in this. The fault completely lies with the liberal agenda of welfare, rights, and total access to free education (even at the college level), for all who come here illegally. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites