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Dead Pool Update - H. Ross Perot

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That giant sucking sound you hear is.........H Ross taking his last breath.

RIP

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The man who took down Bush.....he was something in his day....

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He ran for POTUS  (was born) a couple decades too soon.

If he was in his 60's now and ran, he woulda won.    America wasn't quite ready back in the mid 90s for a guy like him.


 

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23 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Would have loved to see him as President.  

And Dan Carvey's impression of him was perhaps the best SNL impression of all time.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=dana+carvey+as+ross+perot&view=detail&mid=0ADD422BBEAA0EF05C6A0ADD422BBEAA0EF05C6A&FORM=VIRE

When SNL was good.

 

 

I still to this day will sometimes say "Can I finish?" like Dana Carvey portrayed Perot as always doing.  Good stuff.

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RIP.  Voted for Perot.  I wonder if our Presidential trajectory might have gone differently had he won. 

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Perot's candidacy was a warning sign of what was to come.  Americans' trust in the system had fallen far enough to allow Perot to become a political force, but not quite far enough to allow a total outsider to win.  Trust in the system collapsed late in Obama's second term after Obama and the press went on a blitz of social issues such as gay marriage, a war on cops, feminism, abortion, and open borders all at once.  That pushed the nation over the edge, and the republican base totally lost faith in the system and elected Trump.  Perot was the precursor quake.

 

And its not done. Civil war is next.

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26 minutes ago, riversco said:

And its not done. Civil war is next.

You're a nutcase.

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6 minutes ago, Kanil said:

You're a nutcase.

Few believed the first civil war would happen until states started seceding.   The belief was that things like the Missouri Compromise would fix our problems.  But you need to realize that the republican base has totally lost trust in the system.  Because of that, its just a matter of time.  I think at a minimum, we will see political unrest and violence the next time a democrat wins the white house because, for a lot of republicans, they will just assume it means open borders and the nation is lost, so they will riot.  It won't matter if the democrats promise no open borders policy either, because they don't trust their word at all.  That's the problem - you can't defuse any of it once trust is lost.  There's no speech you can give, no action you can take, to fix it.  Its a forest fire with 0% contain that just has to run its course.

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1 hour ago, Kanil said:

You're a nutcase.

This lawsuit about the census is a shot across the bow.  I am not touting a civil war, but there is a war a brewing.  The lines are drawn.

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I just don't see ANY way the republican base accepts another democrat president.  The republican base will just assume its gonna be open borders and effectively the end of the nation no matter what she / he says and they will start arming and fighting.   Although it might start sooner than the next democrat president.

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10 minutes ago, riversco said:

I just don't see ANY way the republican base accepts another democrat president.  The republican base will just assume its gonna be open borders and effectively the end of the nation no matter what she / he says and they will start arming and fighting.   Although it might start sooner than the next democrat president.

I think you're FAR over-estimating the number of far-right, and far-left people there are in this country.  They're definitely the vocal minority.

 

If there was a "civil war" it would last shorter than push into Iraq.  To think that any group of citizens today is going to compete with the US military is laughable.

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6 minutes ago, Kanil said:

I think you're FAR over-estimating the number of far-right, and far-left people there are in this country.  They're definitely the vocal minority.

 

If there was a "civil war" it would last shorter than push into Iraq.  To think that any group of citizens today is going to compete with the US military is laughable.

This has been already covered.  The revolutionary war had maybe 20%-25% support starting out.  The overwhelmingly majority of the colonists wanted to stay British subjects.  The funny thing about civil war is if 20%-25% want to have a civil war, then....you have a civil war.  And I'll bet the bulk of the military joins the revolt.

Also, revolts come the lower classes.  I doubt a single person on this forum would join the revolt because most here have jobs and families.  It'll be poor blue collar whites unable to make it who are unemployed or underemployed.

Look at polling data.  People without a college degree used to always be democrats.  In the 21st century it flipped.  Now they are republicans.    That means the grass roots, the raw emotion and energy in the nation now is right wing.

 

Here's a look at the poll:

https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/FT_16.09.14_educationGap_democratic.png

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22 minutes ago, Kanil said:

I think you're FAR over-estimating the number of far-right, and far-left people there are in this country.  They're definitely the vocal minority.

 

If there was a "civil war" it would last shorter than push into Iraq.  To think that any group of citizens today is going to compete with the US military is laughable.

What percentage of the population do you think it takes to start a civil war? 25%, 40%? It actually takes a very small percentage around 3%. 

And you’re right, the right would have the left on its knee in a few months. 

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29 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

What percentage of the population do you think it takes to start a civil war? 25%, 40%? It actually takes a very small percentage around 3%. 

And you’re right, the right would have the left on its knee in a few months. 

 I would be curious to know what percentage of the population are crazy liberals or conservatives. I would think it would be much less than 3%. 

Maybe I live in a bubble, but I have never met someone in real life that has voiced a positive opinion of Antifa or the Alt-right. 

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16 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

 I would be curious to know what percentage of the population are crazy liberals or conservatives. I would think it would be much less than 3%. 

Maybe I live in a bubble, but I have never met someone in real life that has voiced a positive opinion of Antifa or the Alt-right. 

3% is only around 10 million. 

Its pretty normal where I live too. But there are a lot of things going on on the west coast that could cause on uprising. I mean officers in certain locations are told to stand down even when someone is breaking the law.

i don’t think we’re close to a civil war, I think a lot of other things would need to happen for civil war to break out. But people like Kanil who say “won’t ever happen you’re stupid” are equally if not dumber than the people who say it’s going to happen very soon. I mean it’s happened before and civil wars are currently going on around the world, it happens and will continue to happen forever. 

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If you're going to use quotation marks, you shouldn't paraphrase in order to help your argument.

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4 hours ago, Kanil said:

I think you're FAR over-estimating the number of far-right, and far-left people there are in this country.  They're definitely the vocal minority.

 

If there was a "civil war" it would last shorter than push into Iraq.  To think that any group of citizens today is going to compete with the US military is laughable.

 

 

 

So you think the US Military is comprised mostly of conservatives or liberals?   I'm talking about the ones that will fight.  That will pull the trigger.  LOL.   Libs are scared of their own shadow.  They are the librarians of the military.  Libs are scared of guns.  Anti-gun.  Pvssies.   Pvssies don't win fights. 

And so you think the military, made up of righties, is gonna fight vs the right?    

 

That being said....I don't think a civil war is coming. The left is pushing for it (riots, fighting vs police, etc....) but lucky for them it won't happen.

IF it did....the left is full of people that have spent their entire life relying on others to get them through every aspect of life.  They would be doomed.

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8 hours ago, Kanil said:

You're a nutcase.

 As long as the left keeps dividing this country and sewing the seeds of this country's demise, you better believe they'll be a civil war. 

The left has now moved to guilty until proven innocent with unfounded accusations and public shaming for all who disagree with them.

FFS, you guys are literally electing and nominating socialists!  do you not remember the 20th century at all and the path of destruction that socialism has sown?

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I voted for him, would gladly support him 2day if were alive.

Ross Perot, Jr. is a diick - but a super rich diick now I guess. 

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Lol. Nobody's even studied the sixties and seventies around here?

 

by the way, the same guys claiming a civil wars going to happen next Tuesday were the same guys who were openly fellating themselves over Jade Pearl not that long ago.

 

Far more likely to see Pentagon openly defy the WH. 

Oh wait, they already are, have. 

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I voted for him both times. My first two presidential elections I went third party.

RIP Ross.

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If everybody who claimed to have voted for him actually did he would have won. He's the "I was at Woodstock" of presidential candidates. But he was right on about NAFTA, and he knew Clinton would get suckered.  Still, voting for him made sense, it wasn't a cop-out like voting for Gary Johnson.  Only clowns and fools did that 

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We make fun of him because its easy, he was not "presidential" instead he was simple correct in pretty much everything he said.   He was amazingly sage in his assessment of the economic debacles government was creating with its mix of corruption and ineptitude.

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14 hours ago, tubby_mcgee said:

 

 

 

So you think the US Military is comprised mostly of conservatives or liberals?   I'm talking about the ones that will fight.  That will pull the trigger.  LOL.   Libs are scared of their own shadow.  They are the librarians of the military.  Libs are scared of guns.  Anti-gun.  Pvssies.   Pvssies don't win fights. 

And so you think the military, made up of righties, is gonna fight vs the right?    

 

That being said....I don't think a civil war is coming. The left is pushing for it (riots, fighting vs police, etc....) but lucky for them it won't happen.

IF it did....the left is full of people that have spent their entire life relying on others to get them through every aspect of life.  They would be doomed.

I think the US military would support whoever was legally elected.  I don't know if you served but I distinctly remember vowing to "protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic".  Whichever side was trying to overthrow the constitution is the side going against the government.

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1 minute ago, Kanil said:

I think the US military would support whoever was legally elected.  I don't know if you served but I distinctly remember vowing to "protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic".  Whichever side was trying to overthrow the constitution is the side going against the government.

 

So you think Army man Joe is gonna shoot his own parents, kids, brother, etc if the standing president says to do so? 

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2 minutes ago, Kanil said:

I think the US military would support whoever was legally elected.  I don't know if you served but I distinctly remember vowing to "protect the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic".  Whichever side was trying to overthrow the constitution is the side going against the government.

If you think that the Dems (congress) have actively tried to unseat Trump with endless investigations, then exactly which side is "going against the government".

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24 minutes ago, tubby_mcgee said:

 

So you think Army man Joe is gonna shoot his own parents, kids, brother, etc if the standing president says to do so? 

I think Army man Joe's parents aren't going to go against the Army their son Joe serves in.

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24 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

If you think that the Dems (congress) have actively tried to unseat Trump with endless investigations, then exactly which side is "going against the government".

That's not the hypothetical that was posited.  If those investigations ended up being true, he'd be out.  They determined they weren't true, he's not out.  Investigations are not a bad thing when there's smoke.

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In his last documented political act, self-made billionaire and two-time presidential candidate Ross Perot wrote out two checks to President Trump’s re-election campaign before succumbing to his battle with leukemia at the age of 89

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Just now, Baker Boy said:

In his last documented political act, self-made billionaire and two-time presidential candidate Ross Perot wrote out two checks to President Trump’s re-election campaign before succumbing to his battle with leukemia at the age of 89

Any links on that?  Just wanted to see if he also paid for some Asian hookers and heroin.  :lol:

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1 minute ago, Kanil said:

That's not the hypothetical that was posited.  If those investigations ended up being true, he'd be out.  They determined they weren't true, he's not out.  Investigations are not a bad thing when there's smoke.

There was no smoke from Trumps camp, all the smoke was coming from the DNC.

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7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If everybody who claimed to have voted for him actually did he would have won. He's the "I was at Woodstock" of presidential candidates. But he was right on about NAFTA, and he knew Clinton would get suckered.  Still, voting for him made sense, it wasn't a cop-out like voting for Gary Johnson.  Only clowns and fools did that 

Idk about that.. RP, Jr., for a 3rd party candidate, did very well........ In a election with 2 heavyweights - he managed to pull 18%, that's huge.

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1 minute ago, Kanil said:

That's not the hypothetical that was posited.  If those investigations ended up being true, he'd be out.  They determined they weren't true, he's not out.  Investigations are not a bad thing when there's smoke.

If they didn't persist, then I would be inclined to agree.  Also there is just as much smoke that the Dems tried to undermine his candidacy.  In any coup, revolution, civil war, etc., it really comes down to the General's choosing the side.  Usually they are split.

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21 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

Idk about that.. RP, Jr., for a 3rd party candidate, did very well........ In a election with 2 heavyweights - he managed to pull 18%, that's huge.

I said voting for him made sense. What are you disagreeing with? 

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