Hardcore troubadour 12,627 Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, drobeski said: Close enough Michigan, Minnesota, the result is still the same. Zero Super Bowls. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted July 17, 2019 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Michigan, Minnesota, the result is still the same. Zero Super Bowls. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,463 Posted July 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Michigan, Minnesota, the result is still the same. Zero Super Bowls. I try to be polite when in public by changing my phone over to Lions mode - no ring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted July 17, 2019 6 hours ago, patweisers44 said: She is. She has the seat that used to be JOhn Conyers'. The Black Caucus wont let it slip away next election cycle. She is one and done. 4 hours ago, Cdub100 said: We have that other muslim chick (non borther focker) because the black people couldn't organize and back one black candidate. Great minds thinking alike, right here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted July 17, 2019 4 hours ago, Strike said: The problem isn't with the corporations making a profit. Hint: Anyone who has a 401k is a shareholder and, therefore, by your reasoning part of the problem. The problem is that corporations have been given the same rights as an individual. That's idiotic. A corporation is run by individuals but is not one itself. We should prohibit corporations from lobbying the government. Probably should do so with a lot more organizations beyond just corporations but right now we're discussing corporations. The problem isn't the existence or business model of corporations, which at the end of the day just consist of a number of individual investors just as some small partnerships do, but with the ability of the corporation to exploit their status as a "person" and the amount of money they can spend on lobbying to serve their best interests instead of the country/people. I mostly agree. I also think some regulations of buyouts would be good. It stifles competition. Companies just grow by swallowing their competitors. This also leads to the situation we have today. Most industries are dominated by two or three companies. Look at media for christsake. I'm not anti capitalism at all. But untrammeled growth is a bad thing. In a body we call it cancer. Look at this Facebook bullish!t just the other day. Blatantly focking people over. Get hit with a five billion dollar fine, and their stock goes up. Because they can eat that no problem. The issue is government. They are supposed to regulate business. Instead they are owned by it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,958 Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: I mostly agree. I also think some regulations of buyouts would be good. It stifles competition. Companies just grow by swallowing their competitors. This also leads to the situation we have today. Most industries are dominated by two or three companies. Look at media for christsake. I'm not anti capitalism at all. But untrammeled growth is a bad thing. In a body we call it cancer. Look at this Facebook bullish!t just the other day. Blatantly focking people over. Get hit with a five billion dollar fine, and their stock goes up. Because they can eat that no problem. The issue is government. They are supposed to regulate business. Instead they are owned by it. Government is supposed to scrutinize those transactions and has been doing a piss poor job at it for the last 10-20 years. But it all comes back to the lobbying. Get rid of corporations being able to lobby. Reinstate Glass-Steagall. Revisit Citizens United. Reinstate the rules limiting how many media outlets one company can own. Plenty we can do. But the idiots in congress would rather complain that Trump is a racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Strike said: Government is supposed to scrutinize those transactions and has been doing a piss poor job at it for the last 10-20 years. But it all comes back to the lobbying. Get rid of corporations being able to lobby. Reinstate Glass-Steagall. Revisit Citizens United. Reinstate the rules limiting how many media outlets one company can own. Plenty we can do. But the idiots in congress would rather complain that Trump is a racist. Can't disagree with any of that. I agree with the free market. Problem is, that hasn't really existed in a long time. Most American industries are a small oligopoly (if that's even a word) generally offering remarkably similar things for remarkably similar prices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,958 Posted July 17, 2019 21 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: Can't disagree with any of that. I agree with the free market. Problem is, that hasn't really existed in a long time. Most American industries are a small oligopoly (if that's even a word) generally offering remarkably similar things for remarkably similar prices. Oh, BS. If you're talking about Walmart sure. That's what they do. There are plenty of innovative companies in the U.S. We're still the most innovative country in the world. You can't just focus on those large companies that you hear about in the news every day. And the tech world is incredibly diverse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted July 17, 2019 1 hour ago, patweisers44 said: Great minds thinking alike, right here. The truth is the truth. Any chance the blacks don't try and get that seat back? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Intense Observer 344 Posted July 18, 2019 Jihad Squad getting booed in NC tonight! Moderate Americans want people who love this country in DC, not people who hate this country! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted July 18, 2019 3 hours ago, Cdub100 said: The truth is the truth. Any chance the blacks don't try and get that seat back? I said the same thing the moment it appeared she even had a chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
