FantasyRetard 49 Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, NAn said: Doesn't a civil case still involve an investigation? The victim would have to file a police report to start an investigation. Now, since this is a celebrity being accused, the district attorney could order an investigation. We'll see that happens, but as of now, this is merely a civil case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted September 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, FantasyRetard said: The victim would have to file a police report to start an investigation. Now, since this is a celebrity being accused, the district attorney could order an investigation. We'll see that happens, but as of now, this is merely a civil case. Gotcha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEEZNUTS 18 Posted September 11, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ray_T said: dont get me wrong... AB is a douche, but this seems fishy Fishy or not, New England wont keep him. They don't need him and they have a quick hook for stuff like this. Fantasy-wise, he's done imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,542 Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, DEEZNUTS said: Fishy or not, New England wont keep him. They don't need him and they have a quick hook for stuff like this. Fantasy-wise, he's done imo. You would think so but if Robert Kraft was falsely charged maybe he doesn't cut bait so quick? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEEZNUTS 18 Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, kutulu said: You would think so but if Robert Kraft was falsely accused maybe he doesn't cut bait so quick? Was Kraft falsely accused? I thought he just got pinched in a rub and tug spot. I don't think it was a false allegation. He just got out of it with a slap on the wrist. A little different than a detailed rape accusation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 567 Posted September 11, 2019 It's more likely he'll wind up on the commissioner's exempt list than outright released at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, kutulu said: You would think so but if Robert Kraft was falsely charged maybe he doesn't cut bait so quick? Kraft was caught on camera getting a tug, and wasn't get getting finger blasted too? He got off on a technicality that the police department exceeded the warrants limits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,542 Posted September 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: He got off Nice 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raider 84 29 Posted September 11, 2019 First Craft at the massage parlor, now AB accussed of this? This reminds me of the Aaron Hernandez days. You would think the Pats would drop this guy ASAP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,542 Posted September 11, 2019 13 minutes ago, DEEZNUTS said: a slap on the wrist. . I think you meant balls 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,498 Posted September 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, DEEZNUTS said: Fishy or not, New England wont keep him. They don't need him and they have a quick hook for stuff like this. Fantasy-wise, he's done imo. didn't the guarantees for his contract kick in yesterday? So that means the Patriots would still owe him $10 million, correct? If that's the case, that would be awesome! Patriots thought they were trolling the whole league and then it turns out they're the ones that end up paying in the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted September 11, 2019 59 minutes ago, Ray_T said: I have issues with this. if he sexually assaulted her on 3 occasions why did she not call the cops after the first time? and why would she continue to have anything to do with him? while I hate rapists I have a hard time believing this is indeed rape. Exactly. That was the first thing I thought of. Sexually assaulted once, go to the police right away and cut off contact with him. But 3 times? I call bullshlt on this one. And I am not a fan of Brown in the least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted September 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: didn't the guarantees for his contract kick in yesterday? So that means the Patriots would still owe him $10 million, correct? If that's the case, that would be awesome! Patriots thought they were trolling the whole league and then it turns out they're the ones that end up paying in the end. I think something like this, if somehow he is found guilty, voids any guaranteed money, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FantasyRetard 49 Posted September 11, 2019 3 minutes ago, sderk said: I think something like this, if somehow he is found guilty, voids any guaranteed money, no? There's no police investigation. It's purely a civil matter dealing only in money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, FantasyRetard said: There's no police investigation. It's purely a civil matter dealing only in money. Makes me doubt this "case" all the more if this is true. And if he is found not guilty of anything, the chick should go to prison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 979 Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Intense Observer said: AB is the victim here, dumb fock. You should read this: https://haaslawpllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/1_Complaint.pdf Makes her sound credible with the details explained. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted September 11, 2019 Is it too late to void the Demariyus Thomas trade? AB is a focking illiterate dumbass Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, FantasyRetard said: Statement from AB's attorney: Mr. Brown denies each and every allegation in the lawsuit. Mr. Brown was approached by his accuser in 2017, shortly after Mr. Brown signed a contract making him the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL. At that time, Mr. Brown was asked to invest $1.6 million dollars in the accuser's business project. The project had just been levied $30,000 in IRS tax liens. When Brown refused, the accuser cut off contact with Brown. They reconnected in 2018 (letters says she connected with him), and initiated a consensual personal relationship. There's more. This is not going to end well for anyone. That statement looks like it came out of some focking amateur hanging out a shingle on his own. AB better get serious about his g0ddamn defense. Jesus Christ what a moron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eagles115 23 Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: That statement looks like it came out of some focking amateur hanging out a shingle on his own. AB better get serious about his g0ddamn defense. Jesus Christ what a moron career over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
unclemercy 51 Posted September 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Gepetto said: You should read this: https://haaslawpllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/1_Complaint.pdf Makes her sound credible with the details explained. yoooooo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brutal Brutus 182 Posted September 11, 2019 I'm guessing he gets put on the commissioner exempt list and the Patriots let it play out from there. Also, how did he graduate high school when he can't even write something resembling a coherent sentence? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted September 11, 2019 34 minutes ago, Brutal Brutus said: Also, how did he graduate high school when he can't even write something resembling a coherent sentence? Affirmative action at work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinesprings 7 Posted September 11, 2019 this occurred in 2017 and now being reported? civil not criminal....I smell a money grab. fishy timing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 979 Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Pinesprings said: this occurred in 2017 and now being reported? civil not criminal....I smell a money grab. fishy timing. The rape was in 2018 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinesprings 7 Posted September 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gepetto said: The rape was in 2018 who gets raped and waits a year, year and a 1/2 to report it? Who would wait 48hours? ab is an idiot but i smell a rat with the timing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,498 Posted September 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Pinesprings said: who gets raped and waits a year, year and a 1/2 to report it? Who would wait 48hours? ab is an idiot but i smell a rat with the timing While I'm on board with rape victims reporting in a timely matter (not waiting 40 years like Brett Kavanaugh's accuser did, for example), a year is really not that long. As dudes, it's hard for us to understand what a rape victim goes thru and the trauma must be incredible. I'm willing to wait and see how this plays out and am willing to give the victim some latitude since it really wasn't that long ago. In general, I agree that the #metoo movement has weaponized allegations and it's being used indiscriminately as a money/power/attention grab in a lot of cases. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,498 Posted September 11, 2019 12 hours ago, FantasyRetard said: Statement from AB's attorney: Mr. Brown denies each and every allegation in the lawsuit. Mr. Brown was approached by his accuser in 2017, shortly after Mr. Brown signed a contract making him the highest paid wide receiver in the NFL. At that time, Mr. Brown was asked to invest $1.6 million dollars in the accuser's business project. The project had just been levied $30,000 in IRS tax liens. When Brown refused, the accuser cut off contact with Brown. They reconnected in 2018 (letters says she connected with him), and initiated a consensual personal relationship. There's more. This is not going to end well for anyone. Not a good idea, according to Florio: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/09/11/antonio-browns-lawyer-promises-a-countersuit-against-browns-accuser/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, Pinesprings said: who gets raped and waits a year, year and a 1/2 to report it? Who would wait 48hours? ab is an idiot but i smell a rat with the timing She was staying at his house. An incident supposedly occurs in 2017 yet she stays. Then supposedly he jacks off on her back without her knowing. Next year she comes back. Again she’s in his house when he allegedly rapes her in his bedroom. Civil not criminal. Where are the cops and prosecutor in this? She’s claiming a flat-out forcible rape. Files yesterday for maximum effect. It’s all very fishy. I’ll also say, having read the complaint, that it’s full of all kinds of sh1t that would never be admissible in court and they know it. Seems like it was written for the media far more than an actual court. That said she claims she passed a polygraph. Now you can CLAIM pretty much anything in a lawsuit, but if it’s actually legit and as they describe then that’s something. Maybe not even admissible in court but still. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
erikthebassist 41 Posted September 11, 2019 12 hours ago, Ray_T said: I have issues with this. if he sexually assaulted her on 3 occasions why did she not call the cops after the first time? and why would she continue to have anything to do with him? while I hate rapists I have a hard time believing this is indeed rape. 'Why don't women report rape? I have a hard time believing them...' paraphrasing. You answered your own question. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinesprings 7 Posted September 11, 2019 Looks like a Classic "wait n see" just wait till "GOD" dell gets involved ..... ughhhh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skinny_Bastard 154 Posted September 11, 2019 She hasn't even reported it to law enforcement yet. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 He jacked on her back in 2017 without her knowing. She decided to come back in 2018 if he promised to stop “flirting “ with her. Is that how people flirt nowadays? Let me try with the wife, will report back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beyond Chaos 75 Posted September 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Phil Simms 11 said: He jacked on her back in 2017 without her knowing. She decided to come back in 2018 if he promised to stop “flirting “ with her. Is that how people flirt nowadays? Let me try with the wife, will report back. You've been out of the game for too long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted September 11, 2019 i wonder when AB is moving into Brady's house? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,498 Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Phil Simms 11 said: He jacked on her back in 2017 without her knowing. She decided to come back in 2018 if he promised to stop “flirting “ with her. Is that how people flirt nowadays? Let me try with the wife, will report back. Already tried with your wife. Apparently, it works! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Already tried with your wife. Apparently, it works! Well done https://media.giphy.com/media/3oeSB36G9Au4V0xUhG/giphy.gif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 11, 2019 If she's doing it for a money grab, $75k doesn't seem like much to grab for. AB gets fined more than that most weeks for something or other. The low amount she's seeking kind of adds credibility to her accusation, or at least reduces the perceived motivation for making a false accusation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beyond Chaos 75 Posted September 11, 2019 Don't see the Pats doing anything if the league doesn't. They've already had a murderer on the team, can't go much lower than that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zftcg 84 Posted September 11, 2019 16 hours ago, DEEZNUTS said: Was Kraft falsely accused? I thought he just got pinched in a rub and tug spot. I don't think it was a false allegation. He just got out of it with a slap on the wrist. A little different than a detailed rape accusation. Deadspin did a whole writeup on the case and what a CF it turned into. TLDR: Kraft definitely got a rub-and-tug, but the problem was that he got ensnared in what authorities falsely thought was some sort of human trafficking ring, when in actuality, it was just a (mostly) legal massage parlor where the masseuses, who were all either citizens or legal residents, occasionally gave happy endings. The police cut a ton of corners in terms of search warrants, so Kraft's high-priced lawyers were able to get all the evidence against him suppressed. I don't think the case against him has officially been thrown out yet, but it's a foregone conclusion at this point. Meanwhile, the only people likely to face punishment are the masseuses the whole operation was originally designed to "save", who now face felony prostitution charges. Justice is blind, indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted September 11, 2019 18 hours ago, JagFan said: I get what you’re saying, and I’m sure you’re a good person, but you message came across in poor taste. Well, lets be honest here - the sexual harrassment card gets overplayed a lot these days, like many other "cards". It starts to lose its meaning. Its also unfair that once you are even ACCUSED of it you are done. You're guilty, regardless of if you actually did it or not. Real victims get screwed too since with the abudance of claims, the real ones get lumped into the "cash grabbers" group. The whole thing collapses. Also, it does seem rather odd that these victims rarely come forward close to when the event occurred. Its always after(sometimes decades later)the accused is *conveniently* rich and/or famous. Then... they suddenly have their memory jogged about the incident. I have two daughters, just for the record. But I feel this is far too easy to use a "weapon" if people feel malicious or just want to ruin someone else. Thats all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites