Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 Anybody pick him up? 1) Look at the receivers on Miami, it is not difficult to envision him taking over as #1. Hurns is still in the league? Devante Parker busts every year. Grant is a gadget player. Albert Wilson can't stay healthy 2) Miami defense is horrid, they will be playing from behind a bunch 3) He was an UDFA due to off field issues, flashed in preseason though Not saying you take him over a Mclaurin or Brown, but in deeper leagues those guys are taken and I have picked up Preston. May not be an immediate payoff but I expect increased reps over time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 11, 2019 I took him in redraft. I love what I see from the guy. He almost had a second td. Fitzy P is going to be chucking it to Preston constantly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: I took him in redraft. I love what I see from the guy. He almost had a second td. Fitzy P is going to be chucking it to Preston constantly. And that was on 21 offensive snaps https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/snapcounts?team=MIA&week=ALL&position=WR&year=2019&op=Submit&form_build_id=form-9ZBPhd8F4iv6MgifHhkkxDnK_yyaLe1gjuv7Fwr2euE&form_id=fo_stats_snap_counts_form That should be going up, at the expense of any of those others listed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted September 11, 2019 The Dolphins aren’t playing this season, so no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted September 11, 2019 Hes available in my dynasty league. Missed out on McLaurin (my $37 bid was beat by a $52 bid). Think I may grab him and drop Jaylen Samuels since I only have him as a handcuff. My other RBs: Kamara, Cook, Connor, and Mattison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 Dynasty I would definitely try to roster him more than redraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 12 minutes ago, weepaws said: The Dolphins aren’t playing this season, so no. I think they are going to still play all 15 remaining games. And lose most or all of them. Preston is going to be a garbage time hero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted September 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Phil Simms 11 said: Dynasty I would definitely try to roster him more than redraft. Just grabbed him. Let Samuels go. Rest of the WRs in Miami have not proven a thing in their careers so why not take a chance on him. See what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JediMaster 20 Posted September 11, 2019 11 minutes ago, weepaws said: The Dolphins aren’t playing this season, so no. Did they forfeit the season and will no longer play against anyone? How will the NFL handle the schedule now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 11, 2019 Williams would have a lot more appeal on any other team. His highlights are awesome, and he may indeed end up being the #1 WR for the Dolphins as the year goes on. But then, that's probably about like being the #1 WR for the Redskins last year... Josh Doctson led the team's WRs in receptions (44), yards (532), and TDs (2). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 590 Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, AxeElf said: Williams would have a lot more appeal on any other team. His highlights are awesome, and he may indeed end up being the #1 WR for the Dolphins as the year goes on. But then, that's probably about like being the #1 WR for the Redskins last year... Josh Doctson led the team's WRs in receptions (44), yards (532), and TDs (2). valid point. and this team is not as good as the redskins were last year. (yes, Redskins were bad, but this year I figure Miami might be a candidate for an 0-16 year. That's a whole different level of bad) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, AxeElf said: Williams would have a lot more appeal on any other team. His highlights are awesome, and he may indeed end up being the #1 WR for the Dolphins as the year goes on. But then, that's probably about like being the #1 WR for the Redskins last year... Josh Doctson led the team's WRs in receptions (44), yards (532), and TDs (2). They had terrible receiving talent. I’m banking on Preston being more talented, however Miami is going to be worse so may balance out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 11, 2019 28 minutes ago, Phil Simms 11 said: They had terrible receiving talent. I’m banking on Preston being more talented, however Miami is going to be worse so may balance out. They had Jamison Crowder, who is currently tearing it up with Sam Darnold as his QB. Granted, he only played in 9 games last year, but even if you prorate his 29 receptions for 388 yards and 2 TDs to a full 16 games, it's only 52 receptions for 690 yards and 4 TDs that he would have had with the Redskins' team. He's currently on pace for 224 receptions and 1,584 yards in NY (though no TDs). And even if Preston has Randy Moss talent, he doesn't have a QB, a line to protect the QB, or a running game to keep defenders honest. Miami is just a dumpster fire until further notice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 7 minutes ago, AxeElf said: They had Jamison Crowder, who is currently tearing it up with Sam Darnold as his QB. Granted, he only played in 9 games last year, but even if you prorate his 29 receptions for 388 yards and 2 TDs to a full 16 games, it's only 52 receptions for 690 yards and 4 TDs that he would have had with the Redskins' team. He's currently on pace for 224 receptions and 1,584 yards in NY (though no TDs). And even if Preston has Randy Moss talent, he doesn't have a QB, a line to protect the QB, or a running game to keep defenders honest. Miami is just a dumpster fire until further notice. Crowder was misused, I’ve drafted him this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Phil Simms 11 said: Crowder was misused, I’ve drafted him this year. Agreed, but that's my point. Preston Williams can have all the talent in the world, but as a rookie member of the 2019 Miami Dolphins, he's not likely to have much, if any, fantasy value. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 Think Terell Pryor 2016 Cleveland Browns. Worth a look Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Phil Simms 11 said: Think Terell Pryor 2016 Cleveland Browns. And then he also went to the inept Redskins in 2017 and promptly disappeared. Another example of the vanishing fantasy value of a talented WR on a dumpster fire team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted September 11, 2019 1 hour ago, AxeElf said: And then he also went to the inept Redskins in 2017 and promptly disappeared. Another example of the vanishing fantasy value of a talented WR on a dumpster fire team. 2016 Browns were one of the worst teams of all time and produced a 1k receiver. I looked that up before picking up Preston. Not likely for your bottom of bench waiver pick to hit, and that holds true for Preston, however he is worthy of a roster spot in deep leagues. cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted September 11, 2019 3 hours ago, JediMaster said: Did they forfeit the season and will no longer play against anyone? How will the NFL handle the schedule now? Yes unofficially they have. When have the team calls their agents after week one wanting off the sinking ship known as the Dolphins. Yes How does the nfl handle tanking, I don’t know, your guess is as good as mind. Thanks for the reply. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted September 11, 2019 55 minutes ago, Phil Simms 11 said: 2016 Browns were one of the worst teams of all time and produced a 1k receiver. I looked that up before picking up Preston. Not likely for your waiver pick to hit but and that holds true for Preston, however he is worthy of a roster spot in deep leagues. cheers Agreed, he’s worthy of a dead roster spot, but when do you start him? Thank you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shutdown 40 Posted September 11, 2019 3 hours ago, weepaws said: The Dolphins aren’t playing this season, so no. That's my fear. Love the player. Hate the team. Especially when the o-line gets fitz killed and the other teams figure out Williams is the only WR threat they have. I'd have a hard time forecasting anything more than sporadic success for him this year which means he's probably on your bench when he goes off and does nothing when he's in your lineup. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted September 11, 2019 Exactly. Thats the biggest problem, is he worth a dead spot on ones bench. Because when do you use him, when the team is dead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SexyRexy 60 Posted September 11, 2019 Still think Parker is the better redraft option and he’s available in many leagues Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted September 11, 2019 6 minutes ago, SexyRexy said: Still think Parker is the better redraft option and he’s available in many leagues !!! This is the year for Parker, FINALLY Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AintNoStoppinMeNow 68 Posted September 12, 2019 Preston Williams is a prototype #1 WR in the NFL. He had a beautiful toe tap TD on Sunday and if he comes down with the other deep ball he was targeted with in the end zone, he's getting mentioned with all the other rookie WR's in all the waiver wire articles. He's moving up the pecking order by default with Stills getting traded and Albert Wilson already hurt. Parker is still the #1 but does he really impress anyone? The opportunity for garbage time hero is very present for a team that will be down and chucking it a lot. Granted I like his upside more with Fitzpatrick over Rosen but I've got my eye on him as a bench stash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted September 12, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 11:52 AM, Phil Simms 11 said: I think they are going to still play all 15 remaining games. And lose most or all of them. Preston is going to be a garbage time hero This - Outside of garbage time, what has Allen Robinson ever done? When he was with the Jags, it was the same old story. HUGE second halves when they were down by 3 TD's. I don't care how the points are scored, or when. Preston could be a legitimate 2nd half stud based entirely on how often they will be forced to throw the ball. Not every defense is the same, but many play that deep zone when they have a massive lead. He could catch some balls underneath and become fantasy relevant. Plus, he has good skills, so he could turn those passes into something. There are many examples of garbage time WR's putting up solid stats. I'm not saying throw him in your lineup this weekend, but he's definitely worth looking into for the reason Phil Simms 11 posted. Fitz is also notorious for locking onto one target. Wilson is a bust people keep expecting something from. Parker is just a pain in the rear end and the TE can't even spell his own last name. There is nothing to lose by picking him up if he's available. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rallo 132 Posted September 13, 2019 On 9/11/2019 at 11:30 AM, Frozenbeernuts said: I took him in redraft. I love what I see from the guy. He almost had a second td. Fitzy P is going to be chucking it to Preston constantly. I like him too, that team is tanking, and full of whiners... sign me up for a guy with something to prove catching the rock from a QB that DGAF... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted November 4, 2019 Started him this week, been struggling at WR with Cooks and Sterling. Thought I had a solution here but... Out for Season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike FF Today 607 Posted November 4, 2019 (edited) Nobody has stated the specifics of his knee injury but he is definitely out for the season. I'm sure we'll know more in a bit. UPDATE: Torn ACL for Williams. Edited November 4, 2019 by Mike FF Today Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,459 Posted November 4, 2019 Wow tough situation for that young man. I guess if Parker is still available in any ones league pick him up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Mike FF Today said: Nobody has stated the specifics of his knee injury but he is definitely out for the season. I'm sure we'll know more in a bit. UPDATE: Torn ACL for Williams. Maybe update the thread topic re: this Mike? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NAn 39 Posted November 4, 2019 1 hour ago, weepaws said: Wow tough situation for that young man. I guess if Parker is still available in any ones league pick him up. I'd agree with this as Fitz has the offense at least somewhat productive. Phins avg'ing 16pts a game with Fitz at helm. I know that doesn't sound like a lot but they were avg'ing 6pts per game w/Rosen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 127 Posted November 4, 2019 28 minutes ago, NAn said: Maybe update the thread topic re: this Mike? Done 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 4, 2019 I had to grab Parker due to byes. Good news by default but I still would not start him. He dropped a couple of easy passes as usual this weekend. He doesn't have huff hands but it's not that far off. Maybe lobster claws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted November 4, 2019 if i had a nickle for every time i picked up devante parker.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites