The left just doesn't get it

[IGotWorms 3,311]

Just now, Reality said:

You guys are so far gone it's not even worth attempting a conversation..  Trump isn't far right, only a political retard would think otherwise.

Okay pal, whatever you say

[TimmySmith 2,782]

3 minutes ago, Reality said:

You guys are so far gone it's not even worth attempting a conversation..  Trump isn't far right, only a political retard would think otherwise.

He's a moderate, but the left is so lgbt'd they would consider Jimmy Carter right wing.

[RLLD 3,455]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

He's a moderate, but the left is so lgbt'd they would consider Jimmy Carter right wing.

I think this might be correct.   The Dems have tilted so far that Pelosi is considered too far to the right.....I mean, sweet jesus.....seriously??  IF THAT is their mentality, then you can sorta understand why everything is being labeled they way they are doing it.

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14 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

He's a moderate, but the left is so lgbt'd they would consider Jimmy Carter right wing.

 

12 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think this might be correct.   The Dems have tilted so far that Pelosi is considered too far to the right.....I mean, sweet jesus.....seriously??  IF THAT is their mentality, then you can sorta understand why everything is being labeled they way they are doing it.

Exactly.... and people wonder why civil conversations can't happen.  

[Baker Boy 1,485]

37 minutes ago, Reality said:

You guys are so far gone it's not even worth attempting a conversation..  Trump isn't far right, only a political retard would think otherwise.

Trump is a NY Republican which makes him a Midwestern Democrat.

The Left moving farther and farther Left does not move the middle ground left. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

Far right Trump banned bump stocks. Didn't go through congress, didn't consult with the NRA. He's currently working on gun control. Yeah, he's far right. Mister down the middle Obama didn't do that. He was more concerned with bathroom policy. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

6 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Trump is a NY Republican which makes him a Midwestern Democrat.

The Left moving farther and farther Left does not move the middle ground left. 

 

Bingo. 

[IGotWorms 3,311]

20 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

He's a moderate, but the left is so lgbt'd they would consider Jimmy Carter right wing.

I dunno, did jimmy carter lock children in cages? Support white supremacists? Say Mexicans were murderers and rapists, African countries are sh1tholes and describe a largely black American city as a hellhole? Did he say he doesn’t like POWs because they’re losers who got captured? Dud he make wildly misogynistic comments about women he didn’t like? Promote a racist Birther movement against a sitting democratic president? Tell democratic members of Congress that they should go back to where they’re from? Attack gold star parents? Did he slash taxes for the mega-wealthy and roll back environmental protections left and right? Try to destroy a healthcare for the poor and uninsured? Put a ban on people of certain ethnicities/religions entering the country? Destroy international alliances like NATO and cozy up to foreign strongmen?

I mean if he did stuff like that, then yeah I’d say Jimmy Carter was right wing. Don’t think he did but I admittedly was not alive during much of Jimmy’s reign

[Baker Boy 1,485]

4 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I dunno, did jimmy carter lock children in cages? Support white supremacists? Say Mexicans were murderers and rapists, African countries are sh1tholes and describe a largely black American city as a hellhole? Did he say he doesn’t like POWs because they’re losers who got captured? Dud he make wildly misogynistic comments about women he didn’t like? Promote a racist Birther movement against a sitting democratic president? Tell democratic members of Congress that they should go back to where they’re from? Attack gold star parents? Did he slash taxes for the mega-wealthy and roll back environmental protections left and right? Try to destroy a healthcare for the poor and uninsured? Put a ban on people of certain ethnicities/religions entering the country? Destroy international alliances like NATO and cozy up to foreign strongmen?

I mean if he did stuff like that, then yeah I’d say Jimmy Carter was right wing. Don’t think he did but I admittedly was not alive during much of Jimmy’s reign

How old are you?

[MDC 5,890]

10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I dunno, did jimmy carter lock children in cages? Support white supremacists? Say Mexicans were murderers and rapists, African countries are sh1tholes and describe a largely black American city as a hellhole? Did he say he doesn’t like POWs because they’re losers who got captured? Dud he make wildly misogynistic comments about women he didn’t like? Promote a racist Birther movement against a sitting democratic president? Tell democratic members of Congress that they should go back to where they’re from? Attack gold star parents? Did he slash taxes for the mega-wealthy and roll back environmental protections left and right? Try to destroy a healthcare for the poor and uninsured? Put a ban on people of certain ethnicities/religions entering the country? Destroy international alliances like NATO and cozy up to foreign strongmen?

I mean if he did stuff like that, then yeah I’d say Jimmy Carter was right wing. Don’t think he did but I admittedly was not alive during much of Jimmy’s reign

That’s not extreme. Criticizing SNL on Twitter is way out of bounds tho.

[IGotWorms 3,311]

17 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

How old are you?

Young enough to have been born after Jimmy was elected 

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2 hours ago, MDC said:

Feel free to point out anything I said that’s not true.  

• If he's a white supremacist, how come his prison reform is helping mostly minorities?

If he's white supremacist, how come his economic plan has helped minorities at a record clip?

Hmmm..., let's see who's really racist, shall we?  Under Obama, the average income for Black people went from $618 to $669 per week.  Good, right?  Well.... under Trump, they're now making $762.  So in 8 years, black people's income went up $51 per week.  In 2.5 years under Trump, they went up $93 per week.  Your thoughts?

How about Hispanics?  Their income went from $575 to $632 ($57 increase), under Obama's term.  But, in 2.5 years, they're up to $724 ($92 increase).  Weird, huh?

How about white folks!!  They went from $808 to $885 under ($73 increase), under Obama.  In 2.5 years under Trump? Up to $987 ($102 increase).

So wait, you mean to tell me that the increase for black people is up 58%, Hispanics up 47%.  White people?  Interesting.  They only went up 33%.  Seems like the minorities are getting the longer end of the financial windfall, no? 

Boy, someone better tell Trump he's not that good at this "white supremacist" thing.

• Conspiracy theories?  Russia and Kavanaugh were conspiracies and it's been proven (just a couple examples).
• He says nice things about Putin and Kim Jung Un?  Yeah, because insulting people you need to make trade talks with really works, right?
• He says nice things about Alex Jones?  And?  Alex Jones is a nobody and everyone knows it.
• Yeah, some of Trump's supporters are nuts.  But they make up about 2% of the supporting base.  Considering the legion of nutjobs following the DNC Presidential hopefuls who as much as 10x to 20x that, I'd say that's a good thing.

 

Here's a suggestion.  When you start spouting of rhetoric about someone, at least know what you're talking about and don't be completely full of crap.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

32 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I dunno, did jimmy carter lock children in cages? Support white supremacists? Say Mexicans were murderers and rapists, African countries are sh1tholes and describe a largely black American city as a hellhole? Did he say he doesn’t like POWs because they’re losers who got captured? Dud he make wildly misogynistic comments about women he didn’t like? Promote a racist Birther movement against a sitting democratic president? Tell democratic members of Congress that they should go back to where they’re from? Attack gold star parents? Did he slash taxes for the mega-wealthy and roll back environmental protections left and right? Try to destroy a healthcare for the poor and uninsured? Put a ban on people of certain ethnicities/religions entering the country? Destroy international alliances like NATO and cozy up to foreign strongmen?

I mean if he did stuff like that, then yeah I’d say Jimmy Carter was right wing. Don’t think he did but I admittedly was not alive during much of Jimmy’s reign

  The press has really gotten to you.  I may remind you that Trump may have done all or none of those things while he was falsely under investigation for a crime that may have been committed by the Democrats.  It's hardball in D.C.  

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

Alex Jones sucks. Al Sharpton is worse and actually got people killed. Trump ain't perfect for sure. But he's better than anyone the left is trotting out there 

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42 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I dunno, did jimmy carter lock children in cages? Support white supremacists? Say Mexicans were murderers and rapists, African countries are sh1tholes and describe a largely black American city as a hellhole? Did he say he doesn’t like POWs because they’re losers who got captured? Dud he make wildly misogynistic comments about women he didn’t like? Promote a racist Birther movement against a sitting democratic president? Tell democratic members of Congress that they should go back to where they’re from? Attack gold star parents? Did he slash taxes for the mega-wealthy and roll back environmental protections left and right? Try to destroy a healthcare for the poor and uninsured? Put a ban on people of certain ethnicities/religions entering the country? Destroy international alliances like NATO and cozy up to foreign strongmen?

I mean if he did stuff like that, then yeah I’d say Jimmy Carter was right wing. Don’t think he did but I admittedly was not alive during much of Jimmy’s reign

Captain koolaid calls himself middle of the road. 

change the channel bud, they're lying to you. 

[Reality 2,710]

3 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Captain koolaid calls himself middle of the road. 

change the channel bud, they're lying to you. 

Dude is out there, he's clearly bought every MSM talking point.. 

Pretty focked up that a kook like that has a vote that is worth the same amount as ours.

[MDC 5,890]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

• If he's a white supremacist, how come his prison reform is helping mostly minorities?

If he's white supremacist, how come his economic plan has helped minorities at a record clip?

Hmmm..., let's see who's really racist, shall we?  Under Obama, the average income for Black people went from $618 to $669 per week.  Good, right?  Well.... under Trump, they're now making $762.  So in 8 years, black people's income went up $51 per week.  In 2.5 years under Trump, they went up $93 per week.  Your thoughts?

How about Hispanics?  Their income went from $575 to $632 ($57 increase), under Obama's term.  But, in 2.5 years, they're up to $724 ($92 increase).  Weird, huh?

How about white folks!!  They went from $808 to $885 under ($73 increase), under Obama.  In 2.5 years under Trump? Up to $987 ($102 increase).

So wait, you mean to tell me that the increase for black people is up 58%, Hispanics up 47%.  White people?  Interesting.  They only went up 33%.  Seems like the minorities are getting the longer end of the financial windfall, no? 

Boy, someone better tell Trump he's not that good at this "white supremacist thing".

• Conspiracy theories?  Russia and Kavanaugh were conspiracies and it's been proven.
• He says nice things about Putin and Kim Jung Un?  Yeah, because insulting people you need to make trade talks with really works, right?
• He says nice things about Alex Jones?  And?  Alex Jones is a nobody and everyone knows it.
• Yeah, some of Trump's supporters are nuts.  But they make up about 2% of the supporting base.  Considering the legion of nutjobs following the DNC Presidential hopefuls who as much as 10x to 20x that, I'd say that's a good thing.

I’m not going to sit here going back and forth point by point with you because 1) I won’t change your mind and 2) don’t care. I think the % of libruls who engage in this online SJW pitchfork mob stuff is roughly equal to the % of Trumpers who are QAnon dingbats. We have a few Q freaks here at the GC but no one who supports the stuff in this OP. I think you’re insistinh that one side “own it” but let the other off the hook.

 

[IGotWorms 3,311]

9 minutes ago, drobeski said:

Captain koolaid calls himself middle of the road. 

change the channel bud, they're lying to you. 

So that stuff didn’t happen? Interesting take.

At least it’s helpful to know that those things are indefensible if they did occur. I think that’s a step in the right direction

[IGotWorms 3,311]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’m not going to sit here going back and forth point by point with you because 1) I won’t change your mind and 2) don’t care. I think the % of libruls who engage in this online SJW pitchfork mob stuff is roughly equal to the % of Trumpers who are QAnon dingbats. We have a few Q freaks here at the GC but no one who supports the stuff in this OP. I think you’re insistinh that one side “own it” but let the other off the hook.

 

A few?

I’ve never known you to be so generous

[RLLD 3,455]

54 minutes ago, MDC said:

I’m not going to sit here going back and forth point by point with you because 1) I won’t change your mind and 2) don’t care. I think the % of libruls who engage in this online SJW pitchfork mob stuff is roughly equal to the % of Trumpers who are QAnon dingbats. We have a few Q freaks here at the GC but no one who supports the stuff in this OP. I think you’re insistinh that one side “own it” but let the other off the hook.

 

I think the main problem you will have is that in the end Trump's policies will actually result in positive outcomes for minorities, whereas for decades Democrats have consistently failed.  Trump is working the problems from a long term perspective and Democrats focus on short term actions to generate votes, but which have a negative outcome.

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3 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I think the main problem you will have is that in the end Trump's policies will actually result in positive outcomes for minorities, whereas for decades Democrats have consistently failed.  Trump is working the problems from a long term perspective and Democrats focus on short term actions to generate votes, but which have a negative outcome.

Long term I don’t think Trump or Democrats have policies that are helping minorities. 

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7 minutes ago, MDC said:

Long term I don’t think Trump or Democrats have policies that are helping minorities. 

of course Trump does.  The biggest barrier to employment for low skilled minorities is illegal immigrants.  Trump wants to finally do something about it but is met with resistance from both major parties.  This point isn't even debatable.

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11 minutes ago, MDC said:

Long term I don’t think Trump or Democrats have policies that are helping minorities. 

Helping minorities do what? 

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3 minutes ago, Strike said:

of course Trump does.  The biggest barrier to employment for low skilled minorities is illegal immigrants.  Trump wants to finally do something about it but is met with resistance from both major parties.  This point isn't even debatable.

I don’t actually think Trump wants to do anything about it. I don’t see him pressing for a National eVerify mandate or lowering the hammer on businesses that hire illegals. And lord knows his own businesses hire visa workers and manufacture overseas. He wants to campaign on it though.

[RLLD 3,455]

43 minutes ago, MDC said:

Long term I don’t think Trump or Democrats have policies that are helping minorities. 

We can agree to disagree on that point. 

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1 hour ago, MDC said:

I’m not going to sit here going back and forth point by point with you because 1) I won’t change your mind and 2) don’t care. I think the % of libruls who engage in this online SJW pitchfork mob stuff is roughly equal to the % of Trumpers who are QAnon dingbats. We have a few Q freaks here at the GC but no one who supports the stuff in this OP. I think you’re insistinh that one side “own it” but let the other off the hook.

 

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because 1) I won’t change your mind

Clearly, despite facts I've given you, you're apparently not able to change your mind either.

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8 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Clearly, despite facts I've given you, you're apparently not able to change your mind either.

We seem to disagree on the definition of “facts.”  

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6 minutes ago, MDC said:

We seem to disagree on the definition of “facts.”  

I can give you the website of the Bureau of Labor Statistics that gave me the money numbers.  I think it's pretty obvious that the Russian Collusion fiasco was bull crap.  I think it's pretty obvious that the whole Kavanaugh incident was bull crap.  I can point you to the Democratic Presidential debates where virtually every candidate is trying to "out-Left" the rest of the field.  Pretty obvious they're on the full court press towards socialism.

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Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

I can give you the website of the Bureau of Labor Statistics that gave me the money numbers.  I think it's pretty obvious that the Russian Collusion fiasco was bull crap.  I think it's pretty obvious that the whole Kavanaugh incident was bull crap.  I can point you to the Democratic Presidential debates where virtually every candidate is trying to "out-Left" the rest of the field.  Pretty obvious they're on the full court press towards socialism.

You could do all that but you’d be wasting your time, the same reason I don’t bother posting links etc. 

[IGotWorms 3,311]

43 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I can give you the website of the Bureau of Labor Statistics that gave me the money numbers.  I think it's pretty obvious that the Russian Collusion fiasco was bull crap.  I think it's pretty obvious that the whole Kavanaugh incident was bull crap.  I can point you to the Democratic Presidential debates where virtually every candidate is trying to "out-Left" the rest of the field.  Pretty obvious they're on the full court press towards socialism.

I ain’t touching the Kavanaugh thing, but the Russian election collusion was bull crap? Might want to check your facts there. The Trump campaign knew the Russians were interfering for his benefit, welcomed that interference, and took parallel actions to maximize its effectiveness. Mueller said this wasn’t enough to show a “conspiracy,” which I personally do not believe, and that Trump couldn’t be indicted because he’s a sitting president (which is just DOJ guidance and not actually stated anywhere in the law).

At this point I consider the thing old history. Mueller flubbed it or has reasons to downplay it or whatever, and that was that. It’s over. But that doesn’t mean you get to re-write it.

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14 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I ain’t touching the Kavanaugh thing, but the Russian election collusion was bull crap? Might want to check your facts there. The Trump campaign knew the Russians were interfering for his benefit, welcomed that interference, and took parallel actions to maximize its effectiveness. Mueller said this wasn’t enough to show a “conspiracy,” which I personally do not believe, and that Trump couldn’t be indicted because he’s a sitting president (which is just DOJ guidance and not actually stated anywhere in the law).

At this point I consider the thing old history. Mueller flubbed it or has reasons to downplay it or whatever, and that was that. It’s over. But that doesn’t mean you get to re-write it.

On whose behalf were the Russians interfering for with the Steel Dossier (pee-pee)? 

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4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I dunno, did jimmy carter lock children in cages?

For the record, this started in the Obama administration.  That's not even debatable.  You KNOW that's true, but your bias wants you to implicate Trump instead.  Why didn't you criticize Obama for doing this? 

[IGotWorms 3,311]

24 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

For the record, this started in the Obama administration.  That's not even debatable.  You KNOW that's true, but your bias wants you to implicate Trump instead.  Why didn't you criticize Obama for doing this? 

Oh I’m sorry I thought we were talking about carter. You know, because that’s the comment I was responding to.

Loved Obama but he was a bit to the right on a few things including immigration, drone strikes and the economy 

[IGotWorms 3,311]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

On whose behalf were the Russians interfering for with the Steel Dossier (pee-pee)? 

I don’t understand the question but sounds like some loony deep state q anon type nonsense 

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5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t understand the question but sounds like some loony deep state q anon type nonsense 

Well, the "information" in the Steele dossier was from THE RUSSIANS! You didn't know that? 

[shorepatrol 1,737]

6 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Trump is a NY Republican which makes him a Midwestern Democrat.

The Left moving farther and farther Left does not move the middle ground left. 

 

Well said 

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5 hours ago, MDC said:

I’m not going to sit here going back and forth point by point with you because 1) I won’t change your mind and 2) don’t care. I think the % of libruls who engage in this online SJW pitchfork mob stuff is roughly equal to the % of Trumpers who are QAnon dingbats. We have a few Q freaks here at the GC but no one who supports the stuff in this OP. I think you’re insistinh that one side “own it” but let the other off the hook.

 

I don't know the numbers, certainly there is a small minority on each side who are whackjobs.  The problem is that the lefty whackjobs seem to be shaping the policy of the Democratic party.  There have always been extremists but in the past there voices weren't really heard on a global stage.  With social media now, they are not only heard but influential.  Climate change is the most important issue facing us, justifying a 7 hour CNN event?  LGBTQ, enough said, the American people are largely done with hearing why we shouldn't say "good boy" to a dog that might not associate as a boy (I read this yesterday, might have been sarcasm but the fact that I say "might" tells you the direction we are heading). 

The vast majority of the American people are more concerned with things like jobs and the economy.

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6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Far right Trump banned bump stocks. Didn't go through congress, didn't consult with the NRA. He's currently working on gun control. Yeah, he's far right. Mister down the middle Obama didn't do that. He was more concerned with bathroom policy. 

and he doesnt give one crap about gay marriage and supported it in the late 90's I believe

unlike their hero obummer

 

[Baker Boy 1,485]

It has been observed that The Political Left feels a need to control others because they want everybody to be the same as they are. They can’t tolerate difference. They are also the most tolerant of being controlled by invasive social rules. They are responsive to fads and fashions and suppress opinions not shared by their group. This is why they mimic and flock like sheep to the Main Stream Media and knuckle under to left wing extremists. They have a natural attraction to totalitarianism

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

It has been observed that The Political Left feels a need to control others because they want everybody to be the same as they are. They can’t tolerate difference. They are also the most tolerant of being controlled by invasive social rules. They are responsive to fads and fashions and suppress opinions not shared by their group. This is why they mimic and flock like sheep to the Main Stream Media and knuckle under to left wing extremists. They have a natural attraction to totalitarianism

 

Excellent and 100% accurate post.