Official President Trump Impeachment Inquiry Thread

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No matter how many times you’re corrected you still insist on living in this fantasy world where I liked Hilary Clinton. I was a Bernie guy, didn’t like Hilary, don’t like the Clinton’s, don’t think we should have political dynasties, and said many times I would support a sane, moderate republican like John Kasich over Hilary. And I consider the one silver lining of our electing the current fraudulent mob boss president to be that Hillary didn’t win. HTH

Worms is pretty much like half way sane, now that Sho is gone, he just gets lumped with MDC and Honcho.

Now liking Bernie I dont get, and would much rather have Killery instead of socialism, however there isnt a single democrat I would ever support over any Republican, and it only comes down to the SCOTUS, because the left doesnt care about the Constitution its pretty clear

[Casual Observer 597]

3 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Now Trump is making explicit threats against the whistleblower. Could be interpreted as a death threat even. Jesus this guy is dangerously unhinged 

First, there is no whistleblower.  Second, someone from the group listening to the call gave the spy some information that he should not have and then the spy, along with his allies in the Dem Party and Media released this story.  All sounds treasonous to me.

[IGotWorms 3,310]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Worms is pretty much like half way sane, now that Sho is gone, he just gets lumped with MDC and Honcho.

Now liking Bernie I dont get, and would much rather have Killery instead of socialism, however there isnt a single democrat I would ever support over any Republican, and it only comes down to the SCOTUS, because the left doesnt care about the Constitution its pretty clear

Mostly I liked Bernie because he wasn’t Hillary and also because I think he’s honest. Admittedly too left wing, but at least honest about it.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579]

9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Mostly I liked Bernie because he wasn’t Hillary and also because I think he’s honest. Admittedly too left wing, but at least honest about it.

yah I feel, you, an honest thief who wants all of my money to give it to others, doesnt sit right with me

 

[Strike 3,968]

44 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No matter how many times you’re corrected you still insist on living in this fantasy world where I liked Hilary Clinton. I was a Bernie guy, didn’t like Hilary, don’t like the Clinton’s, don’t think we should have political dynasties, and said many times I would support a sane, moderate republican like John Kasich over Hilary. And I consider the one silver lining of our electing the current fraudulent mob boss president to be that Hillary didn’t win. HTH

I never said you liked HItlery, but you absolutely wanted and expected her to beat Trump.  Then on election night you came here with Sho and both had massive meltdowns.  Shortly after, you quit the bored for what, 18 months?  So don't act like you weren't devastated that Hitlery didn't win.

[Reality 2,710]

2 hours ago, Casual Observer said:

First, there is no whistleblower.  

This is true.

Need to stop referring to them as such.

[Intense Observer 344]

7 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Now Trump is making explicit threats against the whistleblower. Could be interpreted as a death threat even. Jesus this guy is dangerously unhinged 

Good.

Spies, which this "whistleblower" is confirmed to be a CIA asset, who work against the US deserve to be punished accordingly.

I don't know which methods are still legal, hopefully public hanging. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

11 hours ago, RLLD said:

That might be true, I bet there are a swath of people commensurate to those support the likes of Ocasio-Cortez who actively ignore their obvious inadequacies.

Unlike the leftists, and I lump you in with them, I won't ignore the obvious failings or pretend the clowns involved in this Shakespearean tragedy are all without fault....but will suggest that the attempts on Trump have nothing to do with the constitution, rule of law, or genuine concern for the nation.....they are a personal assault....nothing more.

I dunno. I think the left genuinely believes Trump is a major danger to the country. (please note, I'm not saying i agree). 

At the end of the day, if he is to be removed from office, it is the republican senate that will have to do it. That will never happen and everyone knows it. This is just an opportunity to grandstand and score political points. Just like when Clinton was impeached.

Their hope clearly is that ongoing hearings and such will drag down his reelection bid.

I don't know anywhere near enough about the facts to know if there is any merit to this charge. There are no sources out there I trust to know anyway. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

8 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Acting director of national intelligence broke the law in not turning this over to congress a month ago. The inspector general of the CIA determined the complaint was serious and credible. Under the law the DNI had 7 days to provide it to congress but simply didn’t do it. Hmm

Clueless.

Not a whistle blower so there is no law requiring he do anything with it.

The IC I.G. has some skin in the game that he must go along with this effort.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

Fired Ukrainian prosecutor's signed affidavit outlining Joe's shakedown.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/26/former-ukranian-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-sworn-affidavit-outlining-joe-biden-shakedown/

Goodbye Joe

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

You have to be one dumb Fock to give any of this the time of day. Im surprised some of you can cross the street by yourself. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515]

1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

I dunno. I think the left genuinely believes Trump is a major danger to the country. (please note, I'm not saying i agree). 

At the end of the day, if he is to be removed from office, it is the republican senate that will have to do it. That will never happen and everyone knows it. This is just an opportunity to grandstand and score political points. Just like when Clinton was impeached.

Their hope clearly is that ongoing hearings and such will drag down his reelection bid.

I don't know anywhere near enough about the facts to know if there is any merit to this charge. There are no sources out there I trust to know anyway. 

Well, the democrats have almost removed the only contender that can take down Trump - Biden - by going all in on the Marxist Warren.

[sderk 1,040]

1 minute ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Well, the democrats have almost removed the only contender that can take down Trump - Biden - by going all in on the Marxist Warren.

Maybe the left can incorporate the Atlanta Braves indian chop in their conventions. Go indian warren!!

[drobeski 3,061]

2 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Fired Ukrainian prosecutor's signed affidavit outlining Joe's shakedown.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/09/26/former-ukranian-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-sworn-affidavit-outlining-joe-biden-shakedown/

Goodbye Joe

Honcho and Mdc lost this thread

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

6 hours ago, drobeski said:

Honcho and Mdc lost this thread

Bigly

Another facet of this. Schiff had this back in August so the asinine complaint that it was hidden from Congress is also debunked. 

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Typical loss after loss after loss here for libs. CNN really delivers the ignorance.  We had this nailed on page 1.

[RLLD 3,455]

It can be confusing.....Biden says something and according to at least one poster here....its was just bluster...just him mouthing off....not a big deal.....but when some third party overhears some Trump people spouting off....well, THATS some actionable facts right there....

I mean, who focking THINKS like that?

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

It can be confusing.....Biden says something and according to at least one poster here....its was just bluster...just him mouthing off....not a big deal.....but when some third party overhears some Trump people spouting off....well, THATS some actionable facts right there....

I mean, who focking THINKS like that?

The Three Stooges: 

Larry

Curly

Moe

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story#.XY02ewYDEV8.twitter

The controversy ignited anew earlier this year when I disclosed that Joe Biden admitted during a 2018 videotaped speech that, as vice president in March 2016, he threatened to cancel $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, to pressure Ukraine’s then-President Petro Poroshenko to fire Shokin.

At the time, Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma. Shokin told me he was making plans to question Hunter Biden about $3 million in fees that Biden and his partner, Archer, collected from Burisma through their American firm. Documents seized by the FBI in an unrelated case confirm the payments, which in many months totaled more than $166,000.  

Some media outlets have reported that, at the time Joe Biden forced the firing in March 2016, there were no open investigations. Those reports are wrong. A British-based investigation of Burisma's owner was closed down in early 2015 on a technicality when a deadline for documents was not met. But the Ukraine Prosecutor General's office still had two open inquiries in March 2016, according to the official case file provided me. One of those cases involved taxes; the other, allegations of corruption. Burisma announced the cases against it were not closed and settled until January 2017. 

[Mike Honcho 4,027]

2 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

The Three Stooges: 

Larry

Curly

Moe

Yes, I'm Moe!   

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Now that the left and The Whistleblower have gotten the ball rolling, unstoppable, to get Biden they're going to start blaming Trump for it. Book it.

[MDC 5,890]

On 9/24/2019 at 5:19 PM, Filthy Fernadez said:

Still projecting.

Biden is on film bragging about getting that prosecutor fired. Other than the prosecutor being guilty of criminal activity against the U.S. why would you be okay with Biden threatening a country to fire someone? That's thwarting justice. IF Trump told Ukraine to investigate, that's demanding justice.

I thought all you Dems loved investigations...............aren't they the way to the truth? 

The prosecutor he got fired - was this the same prosecutor Drobs originally thought was investigating Hunter? Cause the issue is pressuring Ukraine to fire someone in exchange for a partisan political favor. Not just getting someone fired.

I hope you get it now but I expect the multi page Trumper spasm continues.  

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

15 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Yes, I'm Moe!   

You are the smartest of the three   

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

The prosecutor he got fired - was this the same prosecutor Drobs originally thought was investigating Hunter? Cause the issue is pressuring Ukraine to fire someone in exchange for a partisan political favor. Not just getting someone fired.

I hope you get it now but I expect the multi page Trumper spasm continues.  

Read the posts below. Evidence is irrefutable. 

17 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/463307-solomon-these-once-secret-memos-cast-doubt-on-joe-bidens-ukraine-story#.XY02ewYDEV8.twitter

The controversy ignited anew earlier this year when I disclosed that Joe Biden admitted during a 2018 videotaped speech that, as vice president in March 2016, he threatened to cancel $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees, to pressure Ukraine’s then-President Petro Poroshenko to fire Shokin.

At the time, Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma. Shokin told me he was making plans to question Hunter Biden about $3 million in fees that Biden and his partner, Archer, collected from Burisma through their American firm. Documents seized by the FBI in an unrelated case confirm the payments, which in many months totaled more than $166,000.  

Some media outlets have reported that, at the time Joe Biden forced the firing in March 2016, there were no open investigations. Those reports are wrong. A British-based investigation of Burisma's owner was closed down in early 2015 on a technicality when a deadline for documents was not met. But the Ukraine Prosecutor General's office still had two open inquiries in March 2016, according to the official case file provided me. One of those cases involved taxes; the other, allegations of corruption. Burisma announced the cases against it were not closed and settled until January 2017. 

https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

 

[Reality 2,710]

Epic backfire by the left, this time it will cost them Biden..

Poor folks.

[MDC 5,890]

3 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Read the posts below. Evidence is irrefutable. 

https://www.scribd.com/document/427618359/Shokin-Statement

 

Was Hunter under investigation or the company he worked for? Was the company under investigation for things they allegedly did prior to Hunter’s employment there? 

I keep asking and you keep posting links about other investigations.  

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Was Hunter under investigation or the company he worked for? Was the company under investigation for things they allegedly did prior to Hunter’s employment there? 

I keep asking and you keep posting links about other investigations.  

At the time, Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma. Shokin told me he was making plans to question Hunter Biden about $3 million in fees that Biden and his partner, Archer, collected from Burisma through their American firm. Documents seized by the FBI in an unrelated case confirm the payments, which in many months totaled more than $166,000.  

JFC...............you can't read or what? Third time posting that exact statement.

[RLLD 3,455]

10 minutes ago, MDC said:

Was Hunter under investigation or the company he worked for? Was the company under investigation for things they allegedly did prior to Hunter’s employment there? 

I keep asking and you keep posting links about other investigations.  

I believe it was the company but not Biden's son.  It seems as though Biden suggested in his statements that he wanted that prosecutor removed....was it to ensure the company, and thus his son, was properly investigated to root out all the corruption? Or....was it to get someone else, to protect his son by ensuring the company was not properly investigated?

The Democrats just fabricated an entire issue around Trump and election interference....but dont care that a sitting Vice Presdient used his power to influence another government in this way?  I have to wonder if Ukraine was encouraged to influence the election in 2016, as they have freely admitted, by Biden as well?

I mean, if Johnnies best friends cousin can report on something he overheard at the lunch table to reach an impeachment process, it sure is surprising that Biden's little situation is not even a blip....

[Mike Honcho 4,027]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

It can be confusing.....Biden says something and according to at least one poster here....its was just bluster...just him mouthing off....not a big deal.....but when some third party overhears some Trump people spouting off....well, THATS some actionable facts right there....

I mean, who focking THINKS like that?

Well, when you phrase things as simplistically as that and mis-characterize everything that occured to boot,  it really does me me wonder why everyone is making such a big deal out of all of this.  

[MDC 5,890]

2 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

At the time, Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma. Shokin told me he was making plans to question Hunter Biden about $3 million in fees that Biden and his partner, Archer, collected from Burisma through their American firm. Documents seized by the FBI in an unrelated case confirm the payments, which in many months totaled more than $166,000.  

JFC...............you can't read or what? Third time posting that exact statement.

So Hunter was not actually being investigated by the prosecutor Joe got fired, but the prosecutor told someone he was “thinking” about questioning Hunter.

Sounds like an open and shut case!  

[12th Man 884]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

So Hunter was not actually being investigated by the prosecutor Joe got fired, but the prosecutor told someone he was “thinking” about questioning Hunter.

Sounds like an open and shut case!  

MDCuck loves him some corrupt Bidens. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

So Hunter was not actually being investigated by the prosecutor Joe got fired, but the prosecutor told someone he was “thinking” about questioning Hunter.

Sounds like an open and shut case!  

Who helps you across the street? 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

So Hunter was not actually being investigated by the prosecutor Joe got fired, but the prosecutor told someone he was “thinking” about questioning Hunter.

Sounds like an open and shut case!  

When one is questioned in an investigation, one is to be considered under investigation. 

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

More Dems looking to cover up for the Bidens by threatening Ukraine.

https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/462658-lets-get-real-democrats-were-first-to-enlist-ukraine-in-us-elections

Earlier this month, during a bipartisan meeting in Kiev, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-Conn.) delivered a pointed message to Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky.

While choosing his words carefully, Murphy made clear — by his own account — that Ukraine currently enjoyed bipartisan support for its U.S. aid but that could be jeopardized if the new president acquiesced to requests by President Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani to investigate past corruption allegations involving Americans, including former Vice President Joe Biden’s family.

Murphy boasted after the meeting that he told the new Ukrainian leader that U.S. aid was his country’s “most important asset” and it would be viewed as election meddling and “disastrous for long-term U.S.-Ukraine relations” to bend to the wishes of Trump and Giuliani.

"I told Zelensky that he should not insert himself or his government into American politics. I cautioned him that complying with the demands of the President's campaign representatives to investigate a political rival of the President would gravely damage the U.S.-Ukraine relationship. There are few things that Republicans and Democrats agree on in Washington these days, and support for Ukraine is one of them," Murphy told me today, confirming what he told Ukraine's leader.

The implied message did not require an interpreter for Zelensky to understand: Investigate the Ukraine dealings of Joe Biden and his son Hunter, and you jeopardize Democrats' support for future U.S. aid to Kiev.

[MDC 5,890]

29 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I believe it was the company but not Biden's son.  It seems as though Biden suggested in his statements that he wanted that prosecutor removed....was it to ensure the company, and thus his son, was properly investigated to root out all the corruption? Or....was it to get someone else, to protect his son by ensuring the company was not properly investigated?

The Democrats just fabricated an entire issue around Trump and election interference....but dont care that a sitting Vice Presdient used his power to influence another government in this way?  I have to wonder if Ukraine was encouraged to influence the election in 2016, as they have freely admitted, by Biden as well?

I mean, if Johnnies best friends cousin can report on something he overheard at the lunch table to reach an impeachment process, it sure is surprising that Biden's little situation is not even a blip....

The problems with this theory are that the prosecutor was investigating Hunter’s company for things they allegedly did before he worked there and the IMF wanted the same prosecutor removed. 

You’re also comparing apples and oranges to coconuts here. The issue isn’t that Trump allegedly put pressure on Ukraine. The issue is that he (allegedly) did so to compel them to investigate Biden for partisan political reasons.

HTH.

[MDC 5,890]

12 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

When one is questioned in an investigation, one is to be considered under investigation. 

That’s factually untrue. 

Youre embarrassing yourself now. Just take a break, Don will be fine.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Just now, MDC said:

That’s factually untrue. 

Youre embarrassing yourself now. Just take a break, Don will be fine.

You have been played dude.  Again. Your whole anti Trump side is embarrassing. How many cracks at impeachment is it before you are flat out anti American?

 

[MDC 5,890]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

You have been played dude.  Again. Your whole anti Trump side is embarrassing. How many cracks at impeachment is it before you are flat out anti American?

 

I said from the word Go there’s a 0% chance Trump gets impeached over this, even if he did do it.

 

[lickin_starfish 1,480]

All of this amounts to the Democrats and the Media wanting another way to investigate Trump. They need to keep smearing him, as the election is coming.

[Filthy Fernadez 2,696]

The Ukrainians weren't made aware that the assistance was being delayed/reviewed until more than one month after the call.

 

This disproves the Quid Pro Quo angle.