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I really tried to quit watching politics so I'm not up to speed on all this impeachment stuff.

But I can tell you this, they will NOT impeach him, and he WILL win 2020 and it won't be close.

I'm honestly not a huge fan on him.  He's a child and does and says stupid sh1t that doesn't need to be said.

That being considered, if you turn on CNN/MSNBC it's 24/7 propaganda against him.
Fox, is the exact opposite view, but still 24/7 propaganda.

The fact that SO many people want him out, tells me I want him in.

 

Regardless, I'm still taking bets on Trump 2020 if you wanna put up.

 

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4 minutes ago, BLS said:

I really tried to quit watching politics so I'm not up to speed on all this impeachment stuff.

But I can tell you this, they will NOT impeach him, and he WILL win 2020 and it won't be close.

I'm honestly not a huge fan on him.  He's a child and does and says stupid sh1t that doesn't need to be said.

That being considered, if you turn on CNN/MSNBC it's 24/7 propaganda against him.
Fox, is the exact opposite view, but still 24/7 propaganda.

The fact that SO many people want him out, tells me I want him in.

 

Regardless, I'm still taking bets on Trump 2020 if you wanna put up.

 

I don't care how he comes across. Policy is all I care about. Not sure you're gonna get the bets you got in 2016 this time around. Hope you do though. :overhead:

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12 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

So, highlights? Haven’t watched it but I see both sides claiming victory. 

Democrats claim hearsay, 3rd hand evidence and hurt feelings are more important than actual, DIRECT EVIDENCE of guilt. 

Listen, the fix was in on this before this even started.  Schiff could have trotted out a monkey eating a banana, Democrats would clutch their pearls at the sounds of the monkey eating that banana and taken that as meaning Trump is guilty.  They are going to vote for impeachment anyways sans any actual evidence.

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Can't wait until it gets to the senate and Spartacus, Pocahontas and Ka-Whorea fall all over themselves for FaceTime. All three have the potential to start crying. 

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1 hour ago, Djgb13 said:

So, highlights? Haven’t watched it but I see both sides claiming victory. 

It’s crazy how both sides think they are winning. Completely dug into their biases. 

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2 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Wow that’s insane how deep the conspiracy goes. 

Like, literally— it’s insane :mellow:

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Hunter Bidens investment firm got 130 million of bailout money in 2009, while daddy was VP and leading the charge for those bailouts. Corrupt to the core. Thanks Obama. 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Hunter Bidens investment firm got 130 million of bailout money in 2009, while daddy was VP and leading the charge for those bailouts. Corrupt to the core. Thanks Obama. 

Link?

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6 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Wow that’s insane how deep the conspiracy goes. 

Like, literally— it’s insane :mellow:

Your assertion that EVERY charge against the Dems is a conspiracy is insane. It's truly staggering how much you have to write off as conspiracy to believe the Dems/MSM aren't guilty of this sh!t.

Seriously, get some help and change your tampon.

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10 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

https://t.co/3WRyDWNVz0?amp=1

CNN trying to provide cover for FISA abuse report coming out Dec 9th. 

"FBI official under investigation altered document (FISA application?) which may give Trump and his allies ammo about the corruption of the investigation"

Fail CNN. 

Better read on it....

https://mobile.twitter.com/marc_lotter/status/1197663610820079616

 

7 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Wow that’s insane how deep the conspiracy goes. 

Like, literally— it’s insane :mellow:

I can't help but notice you skip responding to the FBI official under investigation for altering documents that 'substantially change it's meaning'.

After all, if you admit the FISA was falsified, you have to admit the whole Russian Collusion thing was a farce. Yeah, you're a fool to have believed for so long.

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4 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Link?

Saw it on TV. Just google Hunter Biden bailout. Many stories. 

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10 hours ago, BLS said:

I really tried to quit watching politics so I'm not up to speed on all this impeachment stuff.

But I can tell you this, they will NOT impeach him, and he WILL win 2020 and it won't be close.

I'm honestly not a huge fan on him.  He's a child and does and says stupid sh1t that doesn't need to be said.

That being considered, if you turn on CNN/MSNBC it's 24/7 propaganda against him.
Fox, is the exact opposite view, but still 24/7 propaganda.

The fact that SO many people want him out, tells me I want him in.

 

Regardless, I'm still taking bets on Trump 2020 if you wanna put up.

 

You ain't getting that prediction correct.   

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6 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

You ain't getting that prediction correct.   

You really think the Senate will impeach Trump over this?  I’m sure the House will vote to send it there....but you actually think the GOP controlled Senate, who could then actually call their own witnesses (opposed to only the ones Schiff hand picked) will vote to impeach him?  

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4 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

You really think the Senate will impeach Trump over this?  I’m sure the House will vote to send it there....but you actually think the GOP controlled Senate, who could then actually call their own witnesses (opposed to only the ones Schiff hand picked) will vote to impeach him?  

I think you and BLS don't understand how impeachment works in the U.S.  

Also, GOP members called witness in the recent proceedings.  

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16 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

You really think the Senate will impeach Trump over this?  I’m sure the House will vote to send it there....but you actually think the GOP controlled Senate, who could then actually call their own witnesses (opposed to only the ones Schiff hand picked) will vote to impeach him?  

The house impeaches. The senate decides if Trump is guilty of the charges. Think of an impeachment like an indictment. Honcho could have just said that but he chose to be a dik instead.  

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31 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The house impeaches. The senate decides if Trump is guilty of the charges. Think of an impeachment like an indictment. Honcho could have just said that but he chose to be a dik instead.  

Yes, because everyone else here always chooses to respond that way instead of being a dik.  Is this one of those, do as I say and not as I do, kind of things?

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41 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Also, GOP members called witness in the recent proceedings.  

What was the list of witnesses called and what were the ones Schiff allowed?

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2 hours ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Your assertion that EVERY charge against the Dems is a conspiracy is insane. It's truly staggering how much you have to write off as conspiracy to believe the Dems/MSM aren't guilty of this sh!t.

Seriously, get some help and change your tampon.

6:45 am EST. Oversleep?

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9 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Wow that’s insane how deep the conspiracy goes. 

Like, literally— it’s insane :mellow:

Ask yourself worms, when Biden threatened to withhold aid, under who's authority did he do it?  If the President can't do it, in your opinion, how can a VP do it?  Are you telling us Congress authorized Biden to threaten aid?  

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1 hour ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

Yer mom turned off the alarm.   :wall:

Did you tell her your shift starts at 5? :( 

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1 minute ago, MDC said:

Did you tell her your shift starts at 5? :( 

I told her I needed to be up at the crack of Dawn................I forgot her middle name was Dawn. 

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I think we need a new thread, one for the actual impeachment activities, right?

I think this thread has already put it to bed that this is purely a political move intended to influence the next election and little more.

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This is going to be epic.  Merry Christmas libtards! Nice work. 

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5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The house impeaches. The senate decides if Trump is guilty of the charges. Think of an impeachment like an indictment. Honcho could have just said that but he chose to be a dik instead.  

Exactly.  

 Honcho was playing word games and semantics.  JFC.  

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John Solomon fires back at Vindman: https://johnsolomonreports.com/responding-to-lt-col-vindman-about-my-ukraine-columns-with-the-facts/                 Note: All supporting documentation for those are in the link posted up here.

And so Lt. Col. Vindman, here are the 28 primary factual elements in my Ukraine columns, complete with attribution and links to sourcing. Please tell me which, if any, was factually wrong.

Fact 1: Hunter Biden was hired in May 2014 by Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian natural gas company, at a time when his father Joe Biden was Vice President and overseeing US-Ukraine Policy. Here is the announcement. Hunter Biden’s hiring came just a few short weeks after Joe Biden urged Ukraine to expand natural gas production and use Americans to help. You can read his comments to the Ukrainian prime minister here. Hunter Biden’s firm then began receiving monthly payments totaling $166,666. You can see those payments here.

Fact 2: Burisma was under investigation by British authorities for corruption and soon came under investigation by Ukrainian authorities led by Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin.

Fact 3: Vice President Joe Biden and his office were alerted by a December 2015 New York Times article that Shokin’s office was investigating Burisma and that Hunter Biden’s role at the company was undercutting his father’s anticorruption efforts in Ukraine.

Fact 4: The Biden-Burisma issue created the appearance of a conflict of interest, especially for State Department officials. I especially refer you to State official George Kent’s testimony here. He testified he viewed Burisma as corrupt and the Bidens as creating the perception of a conflict of interest. His concerns both caused him to contact the vice president’s office and to block a project that State’s USAID agency was planning with Burisma in 2016. In addition, Ambassador Yovanovitch testified she, too, saw the Bidens-Burisma connection as creating the appearance of a conflict of interest. You can read her testimony here.

Fact 5: The Obama White House invited Shokin’s prosecutorial team to Washington for meetings in January 2016 to discuss their anticorruption investigations. You can read about that here. Also, here is the official agenda for that meeting in Ukraine and English. I call your attention to the NSC organizer of the meeting.

Fact 6: The Ukraine investigation of Hunter Biden’s employer, Burisma Holdings, escalated in February 2016 when Shokin’s office raided the home of company owner Mykola Zlochevsky and seized his property. Here is the announcement of that court-approved raid.

Fact 7: Shokin was making plans in February 2016 to interview Hunter Biden as part of his investigation. You can read his interview with me here, his sworn deposition to a court here and his interview with ABC News here.

Fact 8: Burisma’s American representatives lobbied the State Department in late February 2016 to help end the corruption allegations against the company, and specifically invoked Hunter Biden’s name as a reason to intervene. You can read State officials’ account of that effort here

Fact 9: Joe Biden boasted in a 2018 videotape that he forced Ukraine’s president to fire Shokin in March 2016 by threatening to withhold $1 billion in U.S. aid. You can view his videotape here.

Fact 10: Shokin stated in interviews with me and ABC News that he was told he was fired because Joe Biden was unhappy the Burisma investigation wasn’t shut down. He made that claim anew in this sworn deposition prepared for a court in Europe. You can read that here.

Fact 11:  The day Shokin’s firing was announced in March 2016, Burisma’s legal representatives sought an immediate meeting with his temporary replacement to address the ongoing investigation. You can read the text of their emails here.

Fact 12: Burisma’s legal representatives secured that meeting April 6, 2016 and told Ukrainian prosecutors that “false information” had been spread to justify Shokin’s firing, according to a Ukrainian government memo about the meeting. The representatives also offered to arrange for the remaining Ukrainian prosecutors to meet with U.S  State and Justice officials. You can read the Ukrainian prosecutors’ summary memo of the meeting here and here and the Burisma lawyers’ invite to Washington here.

Fact 13: Burisma officials eventually settled the Ukraine investigations in late 2016 and early 2017, paying a multimillion dollar fine for tax issues. You can read their lawyer’s February 2017 announcement of the end of the investigations here.

Fact 14: In March 2019, Ukraine authorities reopened an investigation against Burisma and Zlochevsky based on new evidence of money laundering. You can read NABU’s February 2019 recommendation to re-open the case here, the March 2019 notice of suspicion by Ukraine prosecutors here and a May 2019 interview here with a Ukrainian senior law enforcement official stating the investigation was ongoing. And here is an announcement this week that the Zlochevsky/Burisma probe has been expanded to include allegations of theft of Ukrainian state funds.  

Fact 15: The Ukraine embassy in Washington issued a statement in April 2019 admitting that a Democratic National Committee contractor named Alexandra Chalupa solicited Ukrainian officials in spring 2016 for dirt on Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort in hopes of staging a congressional hearing close to the 2016 election that would damage Trump’s election chances. You can read the embassy’s statement here and here. Your colleague, Dr. Fiona Hill, confirmed this episode, testifying “Ukraine bet on the wrong horse. They bet on Hillary Clinton winning.” You can read her testimony here.

Fact 16: Chalupa sent an email to top DNC officials in May 2016 acknowledging she was working on the Manafort issue. You can read the email here.

Fact 17: Ukraine’s ambassador to Washington, Valeriy Chaly, wrote an OpEd in The Hill in August 2016 slamming GOP nominee Donald Trump for his policies on Russia despite a Geneva Convention requirement that ambassadors not become embroiled in the internal affairs or elections of their host countries. You can read Ambassador Chaly’s OpEd here and the Geneva Convention rules of conduct for foreign diplomats here. And your colleagues Ambassador Yovanovitch and Dr. Hill both confirmed this, with Dr. Hill testifying this week that Chaly’s OpEd was “probably not the most advisable thing to do.”

Fact 18: A Ukrainian district court ruled in December 2018 that the summer 2016 release of information by Ukrainian Parliamentary member Sergey Leschenko and NABU director Artem Sytnyk about an ongoing investigation of Manafort amounted to an improper interference by Ukraine’s government in the 2016 U.S. election.  You can read the court ruling here. Leschenko and Sytnyk deny the allegations, and have won an appeal to suspend that ruling on a jurisdictional technicality.

Fact 19: George Soros’ Open Society Foundation issued a memo in February 2016 on its strategy for Ukraine, identifying the nonprofit Anti-Corruption Action Centre as the lead for its efforts. You can read the memo here.

Fact 20: The State Department and Soros’ foundation jointly funded the Anti-Corruption Action Centre. You can read about that funding here from the Centre’s own funding records and George Kent’s testimony about it here.

Fact 21: In April 2016, US embassy charge d’affaires George Kent sent a letter to the Ukrainian prosecutor general’s office demanding that Ukrainian prosecutors stand down a series of investigations into how Ukrainian nonprofits spent U.S. aid dollars, including the Anti-Corruption Actions Centre. You can read that letter here. Kent testified he signed the letter here.

Fact 22: Then-Ukraine Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko said in a televised interview with me that Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch during a 2016 meeting provided the lists of names of Ukrainian nationals and groups she did want to see prosecuted. You can see I accurately quoted him by watching the video here.

Fact 23: Ambassador Yovanovitch and her embassy denied Lutsenko’s claim, calling it a “fabrication.” I reported their reaction here.

Fact 24: Despite the differing accounts of what happened at the Lutsenko-Yovanovitch meeting, a senior U.S. official in an interview arranged by the State Department stated to me in spring 2019 that US officials did pressure Lutsenko’s office on several occasions not to “prosecute, investigate or harass” certain Ukrainian activists, including Parliamentary member Leschenko, journalist Vitali Shabunin, the Anti-Corruption Action Centre and NABU director Sytnyk. You can read that official’s comments here. In addition, George Kent confirmed this same information in his deposition here.

Fact 25: In May 2018, then-House Rules Committee chairman Pete Sessions sent an official congressional letter to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo asking that Yovanovitch be recalled as ambassador to Ukraine. Sessions and State confirmed the official letter, which you can read here.

Fact 26: In fall 2018, Ukrainian prosecutors, using a third party, hired an American lawyer (a former U.S. attorney) to proffer information to the U.S. government about certain activities at the U.S. embassy, involving Burisma and involving the 2016 election, that they believed might have violated U.S. law. You can read their account here. You can also confirm it independently by talking to the U.S. attorney’s office in Manhattan or the American lawyer representing the Ukrainian prosecutors’ interests.

Fact 27: In May 2016, one of George Soros’ top aides secured a meeting with the top Eurasia policy official in the State Department to discuss Russian bond issues. You can read the State memos on that meeting here.

Fact 28: In June 2016, Soros himself secured a telephonic meeting with Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland to discuss Ukraine policy. You can read the State memos on that meeting here.

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2 minutes ago, Filthy Fernadez said:

"When you can't refute, you must be obtuse"

Revurund ah...Jackson.

Wookie defense? 

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2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

When Steve Doocy questions your story   :lol:

 

Willing to bet you're the first person around here to use Steve Ducey as a reference. 

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