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It looks like Peenie agrees with us that the Dems have really screwed over the poor in this country.  My question is why do they keep voting for the people who put them in this situation.

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4 hours ago, peenie said:

Because a crime job will hire you despite your lack of quality education.

Because a crime job is always hiring and pays well.

Because you don't have to have a car and commute to your crime job.

Because the only competition for jobs in poor urban neighborhood is McDonald's and the liquor store.

Because there are no social services that give young unemployed men money. Unlike TANF and food stamps for instance for young women with children. Men can't get subsidized housing but a single mother with children can. A crime job will buy food and housing.

A crime job will actually come and find you and ask you if you want to work. A regular job is no where to be found.

These all have so many holes in them.  They are pretty much dem talking points. Its the victim mentality that the dems pedal. This actually makes me sad because the mindset is so widespread.

You actually said "A crime job will actually come and find you and ask you if you want to work".  What a joke.

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I was answering the question of why there is such high crime in the ghetto. I am telling you from experience not from listening to talk radio or conservative news. I'm telling you that crime offers an opportunity. There are no jobs and the jobs that are there are for illegal immigrants (factories) with no windows and no obvious signs work is even going on in the buildings. I learned this myself from walking by these factories and only in the heat of summer finally being able to see inside. A factory fully functional with people working. I had no idea they were even there. They enter at like 5 am, under darkness. There are no jobs. I'm trying to tell you, there are NO JOBS. 

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If you live in subsidized housing and get things like food stamps and TANF you aren't allowed to have any assets. If you qualify for a secretary job as I did you can get a job. In my case all the jobs that called for an interview were far away and needed a vehicle. How would I get there everyday? How would you afford a car? Welfare is 3300 a year. 

Even if I saved money for a car. Where would I buy a car? Have you seen car dealerships in the hood? Twice as much for a lemon. 

You guys don't understand how separate the worlds can be.

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I'd love to know how you all would manage to get out. 

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I obviously see where 90sKid is wanting this thread to go. My question is....to what end? 

Certain people love to complain about/blame some of these groups for whatever their issue of the day is, but they don’t want to actually come out and propose anything that will change it. 

Fact is.....We live in a country of immigrants and diversity. African Americans, Italians, Muslims, The Jewish, Asians, Australians, Hispanics, and more. They are all welcome.

I don’t agree with them, but the current administration is of the view that if you are going to complain about our country, you should maybe just leave. :dunno: Just sayin. 

 

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2 minutes ago, peenie said:

I'd love to know how you all would manage to get out. 

My numbers are approximate and conceptual...but I’ve always believed: 

10% of us are destined to fock life up no matter what opportunities we are given......10% of us are destined to make something out of ourselves in spite of any opportunities never received. 

The other 80% of us could go either way. Maybe our nature pushes us one way or the other so that it’s not quite a flip of the coin.... but if we catch enough good or bad breaks in terms of environment, our parents, and opportunities.....we have the potential to end up on either side of the ledger when all is said and done.

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I am not questioning. I already know and understand. It just seems that some people want to believe people of color are drawn to crime and stupidity. While they themselves are products of a superior line of ancestry drawn to intellectual pursuits, creativity and peace. Choosing to ignore external impediments to success.

 

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2 minutes ago, peenie said:

I am not questioning. I already know and understand. It just seems that some people want to believe people of color are drawn to crime and stupidity. While they themselves are products of a superior line of ancestry drawn to intellectual pursuits, creativity and peace. Choosing to ignore external impediments to success.

 

A vast majority of people have external impediments to success.  Some people, black and white, fail to assert the discipline for success.  How do you feel the black culture glorifying drugs, crime, unprofessional slang, and the objectification of women affects outcomes? 

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Does black culture glorify it or does the music industry, Hollywood and the news media focus on it and glorify it? 

Are more blacks in jail or out of it? Are more working or not working? Are more in school graduating or failing? 

More are law abiding, working not selling nor doing drugs yet the media's magnifying glass is squarely focused on the ignorant and criminal element. 

I wonder why? Why the need to always see blacks as needing help and being backward? Most of us are doing fine, but yes should be and could be doing better.

It's like how if you believed TV, 1/3 of us is gay and most are in interracial marriages. The media paints an inaccurate portrait of black culture. 

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22 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

Then explain to me why West Virginia, Vermont, Wyoming and Alaska don’t have the same amount of crime and other issues conservatives claim that the “free market” and “small government” will fix. since those are the most socialized states in the country. 
 

This is a bs point and conservatives should stop repeating it, it’s nonsense. 

have you been hacked? :dunno:

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18 hours ago, Fireballer said:

At least you dont paint with a broad brush

Hilarious irony in this thread. :doublethumbsup: 

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21 minutes ago, peenie said:

The media paints an inaccurate portrait of black culture. 

My views are based on working in some of the most violent neighborhoods for almost 25 years, not what the media tells me.

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8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

My views are based on working in some of the most violent neighborhoods for almost 25 years, not what the media tells me.

Oh.... well, then I'll accept your opinion. 

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1 hour ago, Big Guy said:

have you been hacked? :dunno:

No. I think a bit of socialism would work fine in a homogenous country. Like in Japan or Norway for example. 

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2 hours ago, cbfalcon said:

I obviously see where 90sKid is wanting this thread to go. My question is....to what end? 

Certain people love to complain about/blame some of these groups for whatever their issue of the day is, but they don’t want to actually come out and propose anything that will change it. 

Fact is.....We live in a country of immigrants and diversity. African Americans, Italians, Muslims, The Jewish, Asians, Australians, Hispanics, and more. They are all welcome.

I don’t agree with them, but the current administration is of the view that if you are going to complain about our country, you should maybe just leave. :dunno: Just sayin. 

 

America wasn’t the melting pot you think it was. It started out 80% white and increased to 90% until 1965. Nothing wrong with America being homogenous as it always has been until Johnson’s goofy a$$ signed the immigration act of 1965 which is ground zero for the country turning into a sh!thole. I’m not saying 100% but definitely 75%+. If we fix the immigration issues 95% of our other issues go away. 

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I firmly believe that the #1 problem in the AA community is fatherless homes.  The single mother rate skyrocketed when Democrat (read: NOT Republican) policies started paying AA women to remain single.  It went from like a 25-30% fatherless rate to 70+% today. It's not a coincidence that the crime rate rose dramatically when that started happening.

I think if we can fix that problem, the crime rate within the AA community would plummet to record lows.

IMO, Racism/Nazi's/White Supremacy is not even in the top 100 of the problems in the AA community.

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50 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I firmly believe that the #1 problem in the AA community is fatherless homes.  The single mother rate skyrocketed when Democrat (read: NOT Republican) policies started paying AA women to remain single.  It went from like a 25-30% fatherless rate to 70+% today. It's not a coincidence that the crime rate rose dramatically when that started happening.

I think if we can fix that problem, the crime rate within the AA community would plummet to record lows.

IMO, Racism/Nazi's/White Supremacy is not even in the top 100 of the problems in the AA community.

I believe that the #1 problem is the the left preaching hatred in any way, shape, or form possible on a 24x7 basis. The media, dumb celebrities, and politicians are pushing that crap down their throats at a rate that is almost incomprehensible. 

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4 hours ago, peenie said:

If you live in subsidized housing and get things like food stamps and TANF you aren't allowed to have any assets. If you qualify for a secretary job as I did you can get a job. In my case all the jobs that called for an interview were far away and needed a vehicle. How would I get there everyday? How would you afford a car? Welfare is 3300 a year. 

Even if I saved money for a car. Where would I buy a car? Have you seen car dealerships in the hood? Twice as much for a lemon. 

You guys don't understand how separate the worlds can be.

I dont much care for the policies that are designed to keep people down, I much prefer the ones that are designed to lift them up.  If you vote Democrat you are votig for the continuation, conservatives want people to have jobs, so they can pay taxes, and not on public assistance,,,,,because it sucks.

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1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I firmly believe that the #1 problem in the AA community is fatherless homes.  The single mother rate skyrocketed when Democrat (read: NOT Republican) policies started paying AA women to remain single.  It went from like a 25-30% fatherless rate to 70+% today. It's not a coincidence that the crime rate rose dramatically when that started happening.

I think if we can fix that problem, the crime rate within the AA community would plummet to record lows.

I agree with this, but I don’t think there’s a chance of turning back. I don’t think fathers are going to start sticking around just because of a policy change by the government. A culture of single parent households has been created (not just AA). There are so many stigmas that need to be broken and reversed for the change in society to be seen. I don’t think it’s possible, but since I have no solution, fock what I think. 

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18 hours ago, iam90sbaby said:

America wasn’t the melting pot you think it was. It started out 80% white and increased to 90% until 1965. Nothing wrong with America being homogenous as it always has been until Johnson’s goofy a$$ signed the immigration act of 1965 which is ground zero for the country turning into a sh!thole. I’m not saying 100% but definitely 75%+. If we fix the immigration issues 95% of our other issues go away. 

Your facts are quite wrong. Whites most certainly did not outnumber the people of color living here before they colonized the continent.

What you see as homogenous is how you view things NOW and trying to make sense of it looking back. The Irish, Jews and Italians weren't always considered white. White/Europeans weren't considered one group like today. Land owner had meaning. Servant and slave had meaning.

The English and French weren't one happy white homogenous group.

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Also, what are you guys talking about? There is less hate and separation than ever before. My goodness, please turn off your TV's and walk around, go outside and experience the world yourself.

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10 minutes ago, peenie said:

Your facts are quite wrong. Whites most certainly did not outnumber the people of color living here before they colonized the continent.

What you see as homogenous is how you view things NOW and trying to make sense of it looking back. The Irish, Jews and Italians weren't always considered white. Europeans weren't considered one group like today. Land owner had meaning. Servant and slave had meaning.

He's not far off that we have more immigrants today than ever % wise.  We are letting in way more today than we were in the 10's and 20's, like people think.  Our immigrant pop today is nearly 3x higher %wise than 60 years ago.

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We have room.

Look at the suicide rates. I think people are most depressed in those homogenous boring states. The fun is where there are multiple cultures. I love love love being around diverse people. All anything is the suck. (Except all black cause we're fun....if there is no violence)

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12 minutes ago, peenie said:

Your facts are quite wrong. Whites most certainly did not outnumber the people of color living here before they colonized the continent.

What you see as homogenous is how you view things NOW and trying to make sense of it looking back. The Irish, Jews and Italians weren't always considered white. White/Europeans weren't considered one group like today. Land owner had meaning. Servant and slave had meaning.

The English and French weren't one happy white homogenous group.

No my facts are spot on. 

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has little to do with what party is leading the state, has everything to do with the color of the people

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Just now, edjr said:

has little to do with what party is leading the state, has everything to do with the color of the people

Oddly crime keeps going down at the same time the US is becoming more diverse.

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13 minutes ago, peenie said:

We have room.

Look at the suicide rates. I think people are most depressed in those homogenous boring states. The fun is where there are multiple cultures. I love love love being around diverse people. All anything is the suck. (Except all black cause we're fun....if there is no violence)

So Diversity=good, all-white=bad, all-black=good. Sounds really well thought out.  :lol:

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9 minutes ago, MDC said:

Oddly crime keeps going down at the same time the US is becoming more diverse.

Violent Crime is going up in many locales. Mostly the diverse ones. Fact. 

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14 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

all-any group = kill yourself boring

not bad but boring and to note suicide rates

diversity is great!

 

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On 9/28/2019 at 3:50 PM, iam90sbaby said:

Then explain to me why West Virginia, Vermont, Wyoming and Alaska don’t have the same amount of crime and other issues conservatives claim that the “free market” and “small government” will fix. since those are the most socialized states in the country. 
 

This is a bs point and conservatives should stop repeating it, it’s nonsense. 

The answer isn't simple... it goes back decades - to the beginning, back when the Democrats were (and still are), slave owners.

  • But, let's fast forward a bit to 1916 and the black genocide plan of Democrat Margaret Sanger known as Planned Parenthood.  Democrats encouraged black people to get abortions.  The objective, obviously was to slowly erode the black population.  Funny thing, if you looked up Margaret Sanger in the National Women's History Museum, you would have know idea that this was her plan and that she was a huge racist (a.k.a. Democrat).  In fact, if you search the page, the word "abortion" show's up only ONE time, and it was in reference to the health of the mother... and not the fact that she promoted abortion, specifically to black women.  (Typical Liberal sanitation of history)
  • On to, the president that AOC once promoted, Franklin D. Roosevelt.  In 1935, F.D.R., established the Welfare system.  One that he basically took from the Swedes.  You know, Sweden, the virtually all-white country?  What was the objective?  They'll tell you that it was because of the great depression and that the government was overwhelmed with families that were excessively poor, no housing, no food, etc.  BUT, what they never tell you, is that virtually every one of the families they were talking about... were white.  In the 1920's during the Great Depression, black people were working and actually had almost a non-existent unemployment rate.  Welfare was instituted to increase the gap of wealth between white people and black people... and it still is today (which I'll get to).  The thing is, from a financial standpoint, white people - during the Great Depression - were still wealthier than black people.
  • Next up, 1938.  As just mentioned, black people were working.  The unemployment rate among blacks and whites were fairly similar... and in fact, the gap actually favored black people.  What happened?  Franklin D. Roosevelt (AOC's buddy), instituted the first ever federal minimum wage.  The impact?  Mass unemployment for black people.  In this article, a quote, "The black-white unemployment gap appears to have emerged in the 1940s...".  Coincidence?  No, not at all, as the goal was accomplished.  When people were able to pay whomever, whatever, black people were readily employed.  What was the reason for the minimum wage? White democrats were losing jobs to black people.

These policies were HUGE contributors and the foundation to why black people started voting Democrat and the cause of the problems that exist today.  Black people went from a growing population that was working and had money... little, but they had money and were improving.  They were starting businesses, they were finishing high school, they were getting college degrees, they were - above all else - improving and integrating in the "American Dream".  That is, until these 3 policies hit.  Planned Parenthood encouraged black women to get abortions which slowed the growth of the black population.  Welfare was used to spread the white wealth to other whites to increase the wealth gap between black and white people.  The minimum wage act led to the increased workforce for white people and decreased for black.  Then, like today - and I see nothing wrong with it - businesses paid black people less than white's to keep costs down.  When businesses were forced to pay higher wages, they stopped hiring black people and started hiring whites.  Black people bought into the idea that the Democrats were going to start giving them money (welfare).

  • To continue on to the policies that the Democrats put in place... the crime against marijuana.  Google will love to give you a LONG LIST of links that will tell you why the laws against marijuana were the cause of black men being imprisoned for marijuana offenses.  There'll be a long list that will tell you that in 1972, it was a Republican, Richard Nixon, who signed into law, the policies separated black men from their families because of procession, use, and distribution of marijuana.  What they won't tell you, is that the law written by a Democrat.  That the law passed the throw House majority of Democrats, and then the Senate majority of Democrats, before Nixon signed it into law.
  • Back to Welfare.  In the 70's, the Democrats were starting to lose ground on the black vote.  They're target?  Welfare.  Why?  Because prior to the bill that Nixon wrote into law, the PERCENTAGE of people on welfare had been on a decline for years, so the Republican's wanted to look into the idea of restricting or even ending welfare.  The Democrats used that as motivation to tell black people that if you vote Republican, they're going to take away your money.  This and the prior were the two big clubs that the Democrats used to hammer into black people that the Republican's are racist.  Black people didn't realize that the Democrats pretty much just did a bait and switch on them.  In the 1800's, the Democrats had black slaves from a physical standpoint... today, they own slaves from a financial standpoint.

These Democrat policies are the reasons why black people have had it rough for so long.  Because Democrats restricted the income of so many black people, that they congregate to big cities.  Obviously, the bigger cities have more accessible public services and you need less money to live there... well, in "the hood" anyway, because that's were the Section 8 housing is.  When you have people living on government assistance their whole lives in one area and you tell them that white people (specifically Republican's), are the reason, you'll get high concentrations of rebellion.  Rebellion, at times, is acceptable, but when it's promoted and condoned by one group (Democrats), to vilify another group (Republican's), and using a weapon (black people/social justice), you get high crime rates.

 

Does that answer your question?

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On 9/28/2019 at 7:12 PM, iam90sbaby said:

The common link with crime isn’t Democratic or Republican policy its immigrants and minorities whether you want to accept it or not. Denver is under the same policy and control as San Francisco. What’s the difference? Try and think really hard

Actually, there is.  A DIRECT link.  Crime has direct link to poverty... meaning, in areas of high poverty, you have high population of crime.  Poverty has a direct link to welfare... meaning, if you have a high rate of welfare, you'll see a high rate of poverty.  Welfare has a direct link to Democrat policies.

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4 hours ago, peenie said:

Also, what are you guys talking about? There is less hate and separation than ever before. My goodness, please turn off your TV's and walk around, go outside and experience the world yourself.

This is 100% true! 

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4 hours ago, peenie said:

Also, what are you guys talking about? There is less hate and separation than ever before. My goodness, please turn off your TV's and walk around, go outside and experience the world yourself.

Democrats and media, everyday, are telling the American people the exact opposite.

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38 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

The answer isn't simple... it goes back decades - to the beginning, back when the Democrats were (and still are), slave owners.

  • But, let's fast forward a bit to 1916 and the black genocide plan of Democrat Margaret Sanger known as Planned Parenthood.  Democrats encouraged black people to get abortions.  The objective, obviously was to slowly erode the black population.  Funny thing, if you looked up Margaret Sanger in the National Women's History Museum, you would have know idea that this was her plan and that she was a huge racist (a.k.a. Democrat).  In fact, if you search the page, the word "abortion" show's up only ONE time, and it was in reference to the health of the mother... and not the fact that she promoted abortion, specifically to black women.  (Typical Liberal sanitation of history)
  • On to, the president that AOC once promoted, Franklin D. Roosevelt.  In 1935, F.D.R., established the Welfare system.  One that he basically took from the Swedes.  You know, Sweden, the virtually all-white country?  What was the objective?  They'll tell you that it was because of the great depression and that the government was overwhelmed with families that were excessively poor, no housing, no food, etc.  BUT, what they never tell you, is that virtually every one of the families they were talking about... were white.  In the 1920's during the Great Depression, black people were working and actually had almost a non-existent unemployment rate.  Welfare was instituted to increase the gap of wealth between white people and black people... and it still is today (which I'll get to).  The thing is, from a financial standpoint, white people - during the Great Depression - were still wealthier than black people.
  • Next up, 1938.  As just mentioned, black people were working.  The unemployment rate among blacks and whites were fairly similar... and in fact, the gap actually favored black people.  What happened?  Franklin D. Roosevelt (AOC's buddy), instituted the first ever federal minimum wage.  The impact?  Mass unemployment for black people.  In this article, a quote, "The black-white unemployment gap appears to have emerged in the 1940s...".  Coincidence?  No, not at all, as the goal was accomplished.  When people were able to pay whomever, whatever, black people were readily employed.  What was the reason for the minimum wage? White democrats were losing jobs to black people.

These policies were HUGE contributors and the foundation to why black people started voting Democrat and the cause of the problems that exist today.  Black people went from a growing population that was working and had money... little, but they had money and were improving.  They were starting businesses, they were finishing high school, they were getting college degrees, they were - above all else - improving and integrating in the "American Dream".  That is, until these 3 policies hit.  Planned Parenthood encouraged black women to get abortions which slowed the growth of the black population.  Welfare was used to spread the white wealth to other whites to increase the wealth gap between black and white people.  The minimum wage act led to the increased workforce for white people and decreased for black.  Then, like today - and I see nothing wrong with it - businesses paid black people less than white's to keep costs down.  When businesses were forced to pay higher wages, they stopped hiring black people and started hiring whites.  Black people bought into the idea that the Democrats were going to start giving them money (welfare).

  • To continue on to the policies that the Democrats put in place... the crime against marijuana.  Google will love to give you a LONG LIST of links that will tell you why the laws against marijuana were the cause of black men being imprisoned for marijuana offenses.  There'll be a long list that will tell you that in 1972, it was a Republican, Richard Nixon, who signed into law, the policies separated black men from their families because of procession, use, and distribution of marijuana.  What they won't tell you, is that the law written by a Democrat.  That the law passed the throw House majority of Democrats, and then the Senate majority of Democrats, before Nixon signed it into law.
  • Back to Welfare.  In the 70's, the Democrats were starting to lose ground on the black vote.  They're target?  Welfare.  Why?  Because prior to the bill that Nixon wrote into law, the PERCENTAGE of people on welfare had been on a decline for years, so the Republican's wanted to look into the idea of restricting or even ending welfare.  The Democrats used that as motivation to tell black people that if you vote Republican, they're going to take away your money.  This and the prior were the two big clubs that the Democrats used to hammer into black people that the Republican's are racist.  Black people didn't realize that the Democrats pretty much just did a bait and switch on them.  In the 1800's, the Democrats had black slaves from a physical standpoint... today, they own slaves from a financial standpoint.

These Democrat policies are the reasons why black people have had it rough for so long.  Because Democrats restricted the income of so many black people, that they congregate to big cities.  Obviously, the bigger cities have more accessible public services and you need less money to live there... well, in "the hood" anyway, because that's were the Section 8 housing is.  When you have people living on government assistance their whole lives in one area and you tell them that white people (specifically Republican's), are the reason, you'll get high concentrations of rebellion.  Rebellion, at times, is acceptable, but when it's promoted and condoned by one group (Democrats), to vilify another group (Republican's), and using a weapon (black people/social justice), you get high crime rates.

 

Does that answer your question?

 

31 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Actually, there is.  A DIRECT link.  Crime has direct link to poverty... meaning, in areas of high poverty, you have high population of crime.  Poverty has a direct link to welfare... meaning, if you have a high rate of welfare, you'll see a high rate of poverty.  Welfare has a direct link to Democrat policies.

There’s no amount of policy would turn me into a criminal, because I’m not a criminal. 

People always say poverty causes crime, but for some reason no one is scared to drive into rural Appalachia. Can the same be said for the south side of Chicago?

Heres a secret....ITS RACIAL. You don’t have to tell your wife, your kids, your friends, you don’t even have to say it out loud but you need to accept the facts that are starring you right in your face. Typically Asians and Caucasian’s have the best impulse control and these can be proven with the Marshmallow test and a number of other studies (another interesting one is the mirror test but a little unrelated) and I think that is why you see higher crime rates UNANIMOUSLY around the world regardless of the political climate they are in.

 

 

I have an honest question for you. Do you think if we increased the black or middle eastern population in Japan or Norway which are both 90% homogenous right now, over the next 50 years...do you think it would cause revolt and an increase in crime? 

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1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said:

 

There’s no amount of policy would turn me into a criminal, because I’m not a criminal. 

People always say poverty causes crime, but for some reason no one is scared to drive into rural Appalachia. Can the same be said for the south side of Chicago?

Heres a secret....ITS RACIAL. You don’t have to tell your wife, your kids, your friends, you don’t even have to say it out loud but you need to accept the facts that are starring you right in your face. Typically Asians and Caucasian’s have the best impulse control and these can be proven with the Marshmallow test and a number of other studies (another interesting one is the mirror test but a little unrelated) and I think that is why you see higher crime rates UNANIMOUSLY around the world regardless of the political climate they are in.

 

 

I have an honest question for you. Do you think if we increased the black or middle eastern population in Japan or Norway which are both 90% homogenous right now, over the next 50 years...do you think it would cause revolt and an increase in crime? 

"Heres a secret....ITS RACIAL."

I agree with this.  In the sense that, Democrat policies (which I explained in my long post), have contributed to the crime rate.  The area's you're describing that there isn't a high crime rate, aren't really Democrat heavy.  My short response was primarily aimed at Democrat dominated area's.

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