bandrus1 413 Posted October 18, 2019 Has Columbus Day really been traditionally tied to Italian American heritage celebration? I am going to admit it may be my complete ignorance as I grew up in a very rural small town or maybe just missed it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,625 Posted October 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, bandrus1 said: Has Columbus Day really been traditionally tied to Italian American heritage celebration? I am going to admit it may be my complete ignorance as I grew up in a very rural small town or maybe just missed it. Yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted October 18, 2019 It's also a really good sifi book. If you have audible R.C Bray does a wonderful job. Skippy the magnificent beer can! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 18, 2019 15 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yes Ask him to prove he grew up in a small rural town. I am not buying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yes Fair enough. I honestly never knew it until recently Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, bandrus1 said: Has Columbus Day really been traditionally tied to Italian American heritage celebration? I am going to admit it may be my complete ignorance as I grew up in a very rural small town or maybe just missed it. All the Italian Americans I know don't call themselves Italian Americans. They call themselves Americans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, bandrus1 said: Has Columbus Day really been traditionally tied to Italian American heritage celebration? I am going to admit it may be my complete ignorance as I grew up in a very rural small town or maybe just missed it. Columbus sailed to America under The Spanish Flag. He changed his name from Columbo to Columbus to distance himself from Italy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Columbus sailed to America under The Spanish Flag. He changed his name from Colombo to Columbus to distance himself from Italy. Yes I know which was also kind of confusing to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 18, 2019 Is that why for years idiots have been throwing balloons filled with red dye at the statue of Columbus in front of union station in DC? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 18, 2019 I love Columbo. I have every season on DVD. 'Any old port in the storm' is my favorite episode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 343 Posted October 19, 2019 On 10/18/2019 at 6:35 AM, bandrus1 said: Fair enough. I honestly never knew it until recently I didn't know it until opening this thread a couple minutes ago. From an NPR interview: SIMON: What did it mean to many Italian Americans to have Columbus Day established as a federal holiday back in the 1930s? SCIORRA: One has to remember that when Italians arrive here in the late 1880s in mass - we're talking about 4 1/2 millions who come - Italian immigrants who come between 1880s and 1924 - they encounter America that is xenophobic, that is engaging in acts of violence against immigrants. One has to remember the lynching in New Orleans of 11 Italian Americans in 1891 so that Columbus becomes this figure that Italians latch on to as a way to get a foothold in this incredibly hostile environment that they find themselves in. SIMON: So what has the reaction been among many Italian American groups and Italian American families to the emphasis in recent years on seeing the racism and brutality and violence in Columbus' personal history? SCIORRA: There's an emotional bond to Columbus. I've read poetry which has - says, you know, when I look at the figure of Columbus on a statue, I don't see Columbus. I see my grandfather. I see the sort of worker's hands in his hands. I see the visage, his visage. And I see that of my grandfather. So there's a really emotional bond there. I should say that, you know, this is not an issue of Italian Americans against Native Americans or Native Americans against Italian Americans. It's not a versus - it's not a war that's going upon these two groups. And I think that's always important to keep in mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 19, 2019 There is no such thing as native Americans. Everyone migrated here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted October 21, 2019 On 10/20/2019 at 12:20 AM, sderk said: There is no such thing as native Americans. Everyone migrated here. I find that hard to believe. Why does every other continent have aboriginal native peoples, but not North and South America? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 21, 2019 42 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: I find that hard to believe. Why does every other continent have aboriginal native peoples, but not North and South America? I don't know. But the American Indians migrated here are just that. Why does America need to rely upon other country's take on things? "The prevailing theory proposes that people migrated from Eurasia across Beringia, a land bridge that connected Siberia to present-day Alaska during the Ice Age, and then spread southward throughout the Americas over the subsequent generations." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745 Posted October 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, sderk said: I don't know. But the American Indians migrated here are just that. Why does America need to rely upon other country's take on things? "The prevailing theory proposes that people migrated from Eurasia across Beringia, a land bridge that connected Siberia to present-day Alaska during the Ice Age, and then spread southward throughout the Americas over the subsequent generations." Yes, I knew that theory. But were there no humans here before that? I dunno. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said: Yes, I knew that theory. But were there no humans here before that? I dunno. Yep. If we knew that, we could possibly call them natives. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bandrus1 413 Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, sderk said: I don't know. But the American Indians migrated here are just that. Why does America need to rely upon other country's take on things? "The prevailing theory proposes that people migrated from Eurasia across Beringia, a land bridge that connected Siberia to present-day Alaska during the Ice Age, and then spread southward throughout the Americas over the subsequent generations." Again why Columbus day is stupid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, bandrus1 said: Again why Columbus day is stupid Black History Month is stupid. Hispanic Heritage Month is stupid. I don't give a crap about any one single day that only a very small group of people actually celebrate as top of my list to hate. But Columbus day is more meaningful than both others I mentioned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,462 Posted October 21, 2019 8 hours ago, sderk said: Black History Month is stupid. Hispanic Heritage Month is stupid. I don't give a crap about any one single day that only a very small group of people actually celebrate as top of my list to hate. But Columbus day is more meaningful than both others I mentioned. Don't forget, the f@ggots stole the month of June. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,625 Posted October 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, bostonlager said: Don't forget, the f@ggots stole the month of June. And Halloween. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 21, 2019 9 hours ago, sderk said: Black History Month is stupid. Hispanic Heritage Month is stupid. I don't give a crap about any one single day that only a very small group of people actually celebrate as top of my list to hate. But Columbus day is more meaningful than both others I mentioned. Columbus when he landed in America Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Slave traders when they landed in Africa Geez dude, that’s even to much for me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,625 Posted October 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Geez dude, that’s even to much for me His IQ is 34. Digby34. Cut him some slack. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 21, 2019 19 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Geez dude, that’s even to much for me Saw it in fb and figured I’d share. Thought it would be right up you heartless bastards alley edit: sorry my bad. Just went and looked. It wasn’t slave traders. It was Columbus when he showed up in America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,122 Posted October 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: Saw it in fb and figured I’d share. Thought it would be right up you heartless bastards alley edit: sorry my bad. Just went and looked. It wasn’t slave traders. It was Columbus when he showed up in America. We’re not heartless we just like facts Racist: Hows it going monkeys? (What you posted) Not racist: The average IQ of a sub Saharan adult male is 70 Get it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 21, 2019 1 minute ago, iam90sbaby said: We’re not heartless we just like facts Racist: Hows it going monkeys? (What you posted) Not racist: The average IQ of a sub Saharan adult male is 70 Get it? See above post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted October 22, 2019 If latinos started voting republican, tacos would be a symbol of racist oppression. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, riversco said: If latinos started voting republican, tacos would be a symbol of racist oppression. I’d fight liberals over tacos and tequila Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,513 Posted October 22, 2019 21 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: His IQ is 34. Digby34. Cut him some slack. 34? Don't you mean 13? As in Djgb13? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,625 Posted October 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: 34? Don't you mean 13? As in Djgb13? 13 is his age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted October 22, 2019 22 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: 34? Don't you mean 13? As in Djgb13? 13 was my sports number growing up. Plus my fav number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,513 Posted October 22, 2019 54 minutes ago, Djgb13 said: 13 was my sports number growing up. Plus my fav number. Cool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
