easilyscan 558 Posted October 21, 2019 *I've had him stashed since someone dropped him after week 1* The head coach stated previous to weeks 6 & 7 that he couldn't rule him out. He repeated the same thing for week 8 today. Because of that, I'm going to assume he's more than healthy enough to play. More assuming/speculating. I think we can all agree that A.J. wants out of Cincinnati. At 0-7 the Bengals have the worst record in football, & whether they want to admit it or not, have to think about rebuilding sooner than later. With all that in mind, wouldn't it be beneficial to both sides to get him out there & show that he's still a legit WR ? Beneficial for the Bengals in that they'd get more in return if they moved him, & beneficial to a A.J. in terms of more money by showing the rest of the league that he still 'has it' What am I missing here ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted October 21, 2019 It would be beneficial to his fantasy owners if he could get in the Bengals' lineup. Dalton is slinging the ball all over the place (he's on pace for almost 4,400 yards, which would be a career high), and Green would be a 20-pt-per-week performer in that offense, as Dalton's perennial favorite target. I thought he would be playing by Week 7, myself, but now it looks like he'll be out until Week 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted October 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, easilyscan said: *I've had him stashed since someone dropped him after week 1* The head coach stated previous to weeks 6 & 7 that he couldn't rule him out. He repeated the same thing for week 8 today. Because of that, I'm going to assume he's more than healthy enough to play. More assuming/speculating. I think we can all agree that A.J. wants out of Cincinnati. At 0-7 the Bengals have the worst record in football, & whether they want to admit it or not, have to think about rebuilding sooner than later. With all that in mind, wouldn't it be beneficial to both sides to get him out there & show that he's still a legit WR ? Beneficial for the Bengals in that they'd get more in return if they moved him, & beneficial to a A.J. in terms of more money by showing the rest of the league that he still 'has it' What am I missing here ? It will be interesting to see how the Bengals handle this. He's not been healthy the past two seasons, so he has quite a bit to prove. Is a team willing to overpay for production that hasn't been there in quite some time? Someone posted he has averaged 85 yards per game, but that was only half the season and a full year ago. The guy isn't getting any younger. I drafted him as well, thinking he would be back by now. I'm still holding out hope he ends up with the 49'ers for a pick, however, nobody is giving up a 1st rounder for an aging WR with a lot to prove. At least I hope not. I think this is 100% about his contract at this point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 558 Posted October 21, 2019 Quote I'm still holding out hope he ends up with the 49'ers for a pick I never thought of that scenario, I like it !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted October 21, 2019 18 minutes ago, oldtimer said: I'm still holding out hope he ends up with the 49'ers for a pick 8 minutes ago, easilyscan said: I never thought of that scenario, I like it !! San Francisco, where good WRs go to die... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,457 Posted October 21, 2019 Green isn’t the wr1 he once was, and I think he knows it. Im sure he feels it within his body, he won’t produce like it once did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matt Mueller 146 Posted October 21, 2019 Not sure if this factors in but the Bengals in contention with fins for #1 don't really have any reason to put their best lineup out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,310 Posted October 21, 2019 Stick a fork in him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted October 21, 2019 1 hour ago, easilyscan said: With all that in mind, wouldn't it be beneficial to both sides to get him out there & show that he's still a legit WR ? Beneficial for the Bengals in that they'd get more in return if they moved him, & beneficial to a A.J. in terms of more money by showing the rest of the league that he still 'has it' What am I missing here ? what you're saying only makes sense if he truly still "has it" right now. if he's not going to look good nor produce, it benefits noone to put him out there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 982 Posted October 22, 2019 He's been done, and that's why he was on my do not draft list. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted October 22, 2019 14 hours ago, AxeElf said: San Francisco, where good WRs go to die... I'm not certain how you came to this conclusion. Deebo is a rookie, Pettis is vastly overrated.... What WR are you referring to? They haven't had a WR with serious talent there in quite some time. I don't think anyone would consider AJ Green a "good" WR at this point of his career either. He's above average, hopefully, but he hasn't played in a year and has been injury plagued for some time. I certainly wouldn't say he's "good" anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted October 22, 2019 4 hours ago, oldtimer said: I'm not certain how you came to this conclusion. Just going back a decade or so... Isaac Bruce 2008-2009 Braylon Edwards 2011 Randy Moss 2012 Anquan Boldin 2013-2015 Brandon Lloyd 2014 (Ok, he started in SF in 2003-2005, but played for 5 other teams in the 8 years in between.) Torrey Smith 2015-2016 Jeremy Kerley 2016 Pierre Garcon 2017-2018 Boldin, Smith and Kerley did go on to play another year or two for other teams, but they were basically dead when they left San Francisco. AJ Green would be the latest in a long line of good WRs who went to SF to die... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted October 22, 2019 55 minutes ago, AxeElf said: Just going back a decade or so... Isaac Bruce 2008-2009 Braylon Edwards 2011 Randy Moss 2012 Anquan Boldin 2013-2015 Brandon Lloyd 2014 (Ok, he started in SF in 2003-2005, but played for 5 other teams in the 8 years in between.) Torrey Smith 2015-2016 Jeremy Kerley 2016 Pierre Garcon 2017-2018 Boldin, Smith and Kerley did go on to play another year or two for other teams, but they were basically dead when they left San Francisco. AJ Green would be the latest in a long line of good WRs who went to SF to die... Could you have worse examples? Isaac Bruce was OLD and had MAJOR health issues when he went. I live in St. Louis and followed Bruce pretty closely. Edwards was absolutely DONE in 2011. Moss was 100% done. Boldin had who throwing him the ball? Who was the offensive coordinator? Thought so. Lloyd was DONE in 2014. Smith never had a QB and he isn't exactly a stud, nor were any of these guys while they were in a 49'ers uniform outside of Boldin and he wasn't a stud any more, average at best. Kerley and Garcon? Really? You are comparing all these washed up, injured players to Green? These guys were dead on arrival Axe. You know this, so why you posted it makes zero sense. Garcon was injured and his injuries killed his career, not the 49'ers. You are also not only using old, washed up players who were WELL past their prime, but you are not even looking at the organization today. Did the 49'ers have Shanny then? No. Garcon could have worked, but again, his injuries ruined his career, NOT the 49'ers. How about posting a guy who was an All-Pro who went to the 49'ers while still in his prime, or close to his historical averages at least, then posting? In other words, I have some apples, would you like to compare them to your oranges? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Isaac Bruce was OLD and had MAJOR health issues when he went. I live in St. Louis and followed Bruce pretty closely. Edwards was absolutely DONE in 2011. Moss was 100% done. Boldin had who throwing him the ball? Who was the offensive coordinator? Thought so. Lloyd was DONE in 2014. Smith never had a QB and he isn't exactly a stud, nor were any of these guys while they were in a 49'ers uniform outside of Boldin and he wasn't a stud any more, average at best. Kerley and Garcon? Really? You are comparing all these washed up, injured players to Green? These guys were dead on arrival Axe. You know this, so why you posted it makes zero sense. Garcon was injured and his injuries killed his career, not the 49'ers. You are also not only using old, washed up players who were WELL past their prime, but you are not even looking at the organization today. Did the 49'ers have Shanny then? No. Garcon could have worked, but again, his injuries ruined his career, NOT the 49'ers. Thank you. You appear to have fully comprehended my point, and you have explained it even more thoroughly than I did. Well done. San Francisco, where good WRs go to die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oldtimer 84 Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, AxeElf said: Thank you. You appear to have fully comprehended my point, and you have explained it even more thoroughly than I did. Well done. San Francisco, where good WRs go to die. Ahhh, so now you are stating they were dead upon arrival? If so, we agree. That would make the third time we've agreed on something. It's a start of a great Axe/Old partnership. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanatastic 2,061 Posted October 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, oldtimer said: Ahhh, so now you are stating they were dead upon arrival? If so, we agree. That would make the third time we've agreed on something. It's a start of a great Axe/Old partnership. Axe body spray and old spice deodorant. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, oldtimer said: It's a start of a great Axe/Old partnership. I doubt it. ...and Old-Axe flows better. Almost has a historical and nostalgic Native American component. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted October 22, 2019 Just now, tanatastic said: Axe body spray and old spice deodorant. Ha! One under each pit.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted October 22, 2019 8 minutes ago, tanatastic said: Axe body spray and old spice deodorant. Who do you think "the Axe Effect" was named after? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jimaveli 119 Posted October 23, 2019 I’m done with AJ Green and have been for a while. He’s assumed to be a nice guy so maybe he doesn’t get the venom that some ‘jerk/diva/enigma WRs’ often get. Green got paid along with Dez, Julio, and Demaryius. And he hasn’t been healthy through a whole season since...usually folks hate this and call it out ASAP. Fantasy-wise, he’s done the ‘week to week for multiple weeks’ thing at least 3 times that I can remember counting this year. The first two times, it did not end well. This time, once it was clear that we wasn’t coming back by October, I lost interest and hope. And now Halloween is upon and Green folks are still left holding Butkus..in a bad way. And really, when is he going into anyone’s lineup now that he’s been out for this long if he remains a Bengal? First game back? 2nd? With some kind of matchup? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted October 25, 2019 On 10/23/2019 at 4:47 PM, jimaveli said: I’m done with AJ Green and have been for a while. He’s assumed to be a nice guy so maybe he doesn’t get the venom that some ‘jerk/diva/enigma WRs’ often get. Green got paid along with Dez, Julio, and Demaryius. And he hasn’t been healthy through a whole season since...usually folks hate this and call it out ASAP. Fantasy-wise, he’s done the ‘week to week for multiple weeks’ thing at least 3 times that I can remember counting this year. The first two times, it did not end well. This time, once it was clear that we wasn’t coming back by October, I lost interest and hope. And now Halloween is upon and Green folks are still left holding Butkus..in a bad way. And really, when is he going into anyone’s lineup now that he’s been out for this long if he remains a Bengal? First game back? 2nd? With some kind of matchup? If he comes back week 10 I'll be happy. I may wait a week, I may not. Cin has Mia week 16, which sounds good to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 558 Posted October 25, 2019 Quote If he comes back week 10 I'll be happy. I may wait a week, I may not. Cin has Mia week 16, which sounds good to me. Agreed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgcrawfish 232 Posted October 25, 2019 It's a weird situation, if they want to trade him, he almost has to play at least a week or two, right? Trade deadline is in 4 days so that's not happening, particularly with their bye week next week. I drafted him and have been holding on hoping for something like WR2 numbers at my WR3 spot, but man it's getting hard, particularly in one league with a skinny bench. 11 weeks is pretty fockin long to wait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 558 Posted October 26, 2019 12 hours ago, IGotWorms said: FORK! You're probably right. I have 3 players on their bye week 10, (Bengals week 9) so I'll keep my fingers crossed & hope he's active. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tplbge 2 Posted October 27, 2019 22 hours ago, easilyscan said: You're probably right. I have 3 players on their bye week 10, (Bengals week 9) so I'll keep my fingers crossed & hope he's active. Green expects to be back week 10 (per Rotoworld). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEEZNUTS 18 Posted October 27, 2019 AJ with a reception. Had no idea he was back... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted October 27, 2019 19 minutes ago, DEEZNUTS said: AJ with a reception. Had no idea he was back... Huh? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEEZNUTS 18 Posted October 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, AxeElf said: Huh? Unless the box score is wrong....showing 1 reception for 4 yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 558 Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, DEEZNUTS said: Unless the box score is wrong....showing 1 reception for 4 yards. Yahoo stat tracker not showing that ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEEZNUTS 18 Posted October 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, easilyscan said: Yahoo stat tracker not showing that ? Check NFL stat tracker.. very strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DEEZNUTS 18 Posted October 27, 2019 https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/live/NFL_20191027_CIN@LAR/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 558 Posted October 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, DEEZNUTS said: https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/gametracker/live/NFL_20191027_CIN@LAR/ I see. Weird. Maybe Dalton saw AJ's ghost and passed to him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
