Baker Boy 1,484 Posted October 28, 2019 Liberalism at its best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,627 Posted October 28, 2019 Thats a well run state. We should do away with the electoral college and let those people decide whos in charge so the rest of us can share in their expertise. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 28, 2019 Don't they have a ton of wind turbines? Big proponents of green energy? Kind of ironic, and funny that they need to kill the power because of the wind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,400 Posted October 28, 2019 California is one big tool of the Globalists. I personally believe all of this is happening to drive people out of California to gradually turn Red States Blue. It a;so aligns with the Agenda 21 / 30 timeline. But hey, that's just me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patriotsfatboy1 1,432 Posted October 28, 2019 PG&E is sticking it to the state of CA. Since they are being held liable for any forest fires that could be caused by power lines even if a squirrel chews on a line, they are not taking any chances. They will just shut off power. If CA were to repeal the law that had this strict definition of liability for power companies, you can bet that this would not have happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joeshushu 51 Posted October 28, 2019 California is a true $hit hole. Luckily I live in a city with its own power company and don’t have to deal with PG&E. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 28, 2019 56 minutes ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: PG&E is sticking it to the state of CA. Since they are being held liable for any forest fires that could be caused by power lines even if a squirrel chews on a line, they are not taking any chances. They will just shut off power. If CA were to repeal the law that had this strict definition of liability for power companies, you can bet that this would not have happened. True, and yet you have the governor now crying about how he will hold them financially accountable for "losses" incurred due to them turning off the power.... LMFAO How can people be so stupid..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,726 Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: PG&E is sticking it to the state of CA. Since they are being held liable for any forest fires that could be caused by power lines even if a squirrel chews on a line, they are not taking any chances. They will just shut off power. If CA were to repeal the law that had this strict definition of liability for power companies, you can bet that this would not have happened. They aren't sticking it to the state, they're focking over the rate payers, again. If PG&E had maintained their gas lines, that neighborhood in San Bruno wouldn't have blown up. If PG&E had maintained their right of ways around their power lines, Paradise wouldn't have burned to the ground. PG&E is 100% at fault for these blackouts. They're responsible for their own maintenance. Which they've failed at, miserably, over the years. Sh!t, they don't shut down power in tornado prone areas when it gets a little windy. But PG&E needs to shut down power to avoid a wildfire when the wind excedes 25MPH? Fock That! Not to mention, they never pay their fines. Every time they get fined they b!itch to the PUC that they need to raise their rates in order to pay the fine otherwise they'll go broke. And of course, the PUC let's them. So the rate payers pay PG&E's fines for them. They need to be broken up. Period. They are too big and they can't maintain their own infrastructure. At this rate, the state is going to take them over and then we'll have constant blackouts. Split them up into multiple smaller private companies. Gas and electric need to be separated and so do the territories. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 28, 2019 Screw deregulation of the energy market. It's a fvcking mess out there. But even in regulated markets like in New Orleans, Entergy has to scrap and claw for whatever they can get from regulatory even though they are subject to hurricanes more than anywhere else other than Florida and the lower east coast. Of course, fvck New Orleans for the idiots who want to live in that hell hole and subject themselves to that horror. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,959 Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: PG&E is sticking it to the state of CA. Since they are being held liable for any forest fires that could be caused by power lines even if a squirrel chews on a line, they are not taking any chances. They will just shut off power. If CA were to repeal the law that had this strict definition of liability for power companies, you can bet that this would not have happened. Doesn't seem to be working very well. PG&E is responsible for at least two of the fires currently burning in CA. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted October 28, 2019 Corporations in California know they can skirt the law with massive payoffs to democrats. During the California drought, bottled water companies like Nestle and Pepsi basically stole water from California and Jerry Brown did nothing about it because he's been paid off. PG&E could have spent billions on upgrading power lines and stations but instead poured billions into buying favor with democrats. The money that should have gone to preventing fires went into Gavin Newsom's pocket. That's what's going on in California. Democrats have total control of the state AND the press so now they are free to corrupt all services and milk it dry to get stupid rich and the press will never call them out on it because they own the press too. In theory, freedom of the press would stop this, but we don't have freedom of the press in America. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,091 Posted October 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Patriotsfatboy1 said: PG&E is sticking it to the state of CA. Since they are being held liable for any forest fires that could be caused by power lines even if a squirrel chews on a line, they are not taking any chances. They will just shut off power. If CA were to repeal the law that had this strict definition of liability for power companies, you can bet that this would not have happened. Bingo! They are doing what the California law makers wanted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/28/2019 at 11:18 AM, Patriotsfatboy1 said: PG&E is sticking it to the state of CA. Since they are being held liable for any forest fires that could be caused by power lines even if a squirrel chews on a line, they are not taking any chances. They will just shut off power. If CA were to repeal the law that had this strict definition of liability for power companies, you can bet that this would not have happened. More Blackouts in California as PG&E continues to its reduce its liability in the cause of wildfires. 10% of the CA wildfires are caused by an electrical source. Environment laws will not allow Anyone to clear brush or trees around electrical equipment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 30, 2019 3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: More Blackouts in California as PG&E continues to its reduce its liability in the cause of wildfires. 10% of the CA wildfires are caused by an electrical source. Environment laws will not allow Anyone to clear brush or trees around electrical equipment. Sounds like if CA can get a handle on the 90% of reasons they would be good to go. I mean, humans can control the climate and all of nature now, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted October 30, 2019 This is really good reading. Covers darn near everything you can think of https://laist.com/2019/10/28/california-fires-explained-why-they-are-getting-worse.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted October 30, 2019 Just think about the Carbon Footprint this fires are leaving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted October 30, 2019 Isnt this the time to get the most out of their wind turbine farms ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, drobeski said: Isnt this the time to get the most out of their wind turbine farms ? Yes. They can get like 2 kwh generated per day out of those on a windy day. Incredible. Well, then there is line loss. Oh well. At least they are trying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted October 30, 2019 You would think that the name "blackout" would have been changed by now... That is obvious racism, right?? Right?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,726 Posted October 30, 2019 7 minutes ago, posty said: You would think that the name "blackout" would have been changed by now... That is obvious racism, right?? Right?? It is kind of a misnomer. I mean, during a blackout we are all paying for something that we aren't getting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,959 Posted October 30, 2019 All you californians can breath a sigh of relief. Your wonderful governor Gavin Newsom has the solution. He wants Warren Buffett to buy PG&E. That's not a joke. That's his solution. ROFLMAO!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,726 Posted October 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Strike said: All you californians can breath a sigh of relief. Your wonderful governor Gavin Newsom has the solution. He wants Warren Buffett to buy PG&E. That's not a joke. That's his solution. ROFLMAO!!! That actually is a relief. I figured he would suggest the state take them over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted October 31, 2019 I for one pray that their lights come back on and that their trees stop burning. I'd hate to see those crazy fockers metastasize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,484 Posted October 31, 2019 Consumers blame the state for not cleaning up dead trees and brush, along with the utility companies for not updating their ossified equipment. The power companies in turn fault the state for so over-regulating utilities that they had no resources to modernize their grids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,192 Posted October 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: Consumers blame the state for not cleaning up dead trees and brush, along with the utility companies for not updating their ossified equipment. The power companies in turn fault the state for so over-regulating utilities that they had no resources to modernize their grids. Those are all factors. Last year my wife and I hiked in the Napa area on a trail called Oat Hill Mine near Calistoga. Much of it was incredibly dense, dead brush. Coming from Arizona which has its share of fires, we were amazed at the lack of maintenance. It looked like one spark could light the entire mountain in no time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted October 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Those are all factors. Last year my wife and I hiked in the Napa area on a trail called Oat Hill Mine near Calistoga. Much of it was incredibly dense, dead brush. Coming from Arizona which has its share of fires, we were amazed at the lack of maintenance. It looked like one spark could light the entire mountain in no time. It's Trump's fault. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted November 1, 2019 Good joke: Q: What did Californians use before candles? A: Electricity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted November 2, 2019 California is so great we should put their politicians in control of the rest of the country. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted November 2, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 4:45 PM, Baker Boy said: More Blackouts in California as PG&E continues to its reduce its liability in the cause of wildfires. 10% of the CA wildfires are caused by an electrical source. Environment laws will not allow Anyone to clear brush or trees around electrical equipment. This. Akin to putting putting ash trays on gas pumps. Not a question of if they're will be a fire but where and when. World's third largest economy (at least at one time) and always some sh!t show (in some cases literally i.e. San Fran). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted November 2, 2019 “BuT wE hAvE tHe 5th LaRgEsT eCoNoMy” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,959 Posted November 4, 2019 Californians should be GRATEFUL to PG&E because they didn't burn your house down!!!! https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/pge-ceo-bill-johnson-psps-outages-14805659.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites