nzoner 936 Posted November 9, 2019 Our FF league charges $5 per transaction and due to byes and a Sterling Shepherd setback I can only field two wr's this week instead of the required three.Here's the question,my team is absolutely horrid this season and the possibilities of me making the playoffs are practically nil.So am I being "that guy" for not fielding a complete team this one week or does it get shaken off as I paid my entry and I can manage however I choose? What's your take when this happens in your cash leagues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted November 9, 2019 I can kinda see it both ways. I hate to be in a league where someone is already out of it so they stop trying. At least have some self-respect and try to be a spoiler. In your case though, if nobody as good or better is available on the waiver and you don't have a player you are willing to drop I would prolly do the same thing as you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,498 Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, fandandy said: I can kinda see it both ways. I hate to be in a league where someone is already out of it so they stop trying. At least have some self-respect and try to be a spoiler. In your case though, if nobody as good or better is available on the waiver and you don't have a player you are willing to drop I would prolly do the same thing as you. I agree with this. It's not like you're intentionally tanking. There are just no other good options. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 9, 2019 I would be pissed, unless it's a total points leauge. You manage to win at all times. Why should the guy you're playing this week get a break and the prior opponents didn't? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, fandandy said: I can kinda see it both ways. I hate to be in a league where someone is already out of it so they stop trying. At least have some self-respect and try to be a spoiler. In your case though, if nobody as good or better is available on the waiver and you don't have a player you are willing to drop I would prolly do the same thing as you. No way will I stop trying as I'm too competitive and would love to play spoiler,I just don't want to shell out another $5 on a WW(that's depleted)just to have a body in my line-up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted November 9, 2019 1 minute ago, nzoner said: No way will I stop trying as I'm too competitive and would love to play spoiler,I just don't want to shell out another $5 on a WW(that's depleted)just to have a body in my line-up. If it's only about the $5, I think you should suck it up and pay it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I would be pissed, unless it's a total points leauge. You manage to win at all times. Why should the guy you're playing this week get a break and the prior opponents didn't? It's a HTH and total points league. So in my shoes you would spend $5 just to have a body in your line-up? Our WW is depleted and I realize it's only $5 but the odds on picking a player that's going to get any points are not good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted November 9, 2019 Your team, your money, do what you want as long as theres no obvious collusion 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted November 9, 2019 16 minutes ago, nzoner said: No way will I stop trying as I'm too competitive and would love to play spoiler,I just don't want to shell out another $5 on a WW(that's depleted)just to have a body in my line-up. I don't see it as you as tanking, but wanting to hold talent that will give you better success after this week. is it redraft, keeper, or dynasty? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted November 9, 2019 Pascal, Rogers or Dulin from the Colts. They are the only 3 wide receivers on the roster with a backup QB in Hoyer. I’ve found the back up Qb’s have their best chemistry with lower tier WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, nzoner said: It's a HTH and total points league. So in my shoes you would spend $5 just to have a body in your line-up? Our WW is depleted and I realize it's only $5 but the odds on picking a player that's going to get any points are not good. Yes I would. I've done it before. Plus I don't like some of my friends in fantasy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted November 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Pascal, Rogers or Dulin from the Colts. They are the only 3 wide receivers on the roster with a backup QB in Hoyer. I’ve found the back up Qb’s have their best chemistry with lower tier WR. Any of these guys available? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 2,144 Posted November 9, 2019 This is a good reason not to have transaction fees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bier Meister said: I don't see it as you as tanking, but wanting to hold talent that will give you better success after this week. is it redraft, keeper, or dynasty? Basically redraft but we if we choose we can keep 2 players per year that count 3 rounds against us in the draft until they have to be thrown back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bier Meister 1,512 Posted November 9, 2019 damn... this now begs the question: show your roster. who is dropable? who is on ww/fa that you can pick up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 9, 2019 3 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Any of these guys available? Rogers and Dulin both but the concern there against Miami are opportunities,personally I don't see a lot of pass attempts needed? After scouring the WW the best I'm seeing IMO is Ted Ginn,with Brees back the opportunity could be there but then again they are playing the Falcons and kamara and murray could dominate. Thoughts? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,878 Posted November 9, 2019 I’d suck it up and put a body in your lineup just for the sake of competitive fairness in your league. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 9, 2019 11 minutes ago, frank said: This is a good reason not to have transaction fees. Yup. Years ago we bumped it up to 500 per team. No excuses. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted November 9, 2019 Suck it up and pay the $5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yup. Years ago we bumped it up to 500 per team. No excuses. How does your WW work? First come first served or do you use an order? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, nzoner said: How does your WW work? First come first served or do you use an order? FAAB. Everyone gets 1k fake money. Waivers run wed-sat. You can bid on Thursday night players only, on Tuesday night. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 9, 2019 No, you are not that guy! Sometimes I don’t field a full team because I don’t want to drop anyone, don’t let the money get in your way of rational thinking. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 9, 2019 Appreciate the feedback guys,I went ahead and dropped Shepherd(who looks like he might be headed for IR) and added Ted Ginn as based on previous targets etc. with Brees he was the best available.At least the league knows I'm trying this way,just got to hope for a Falcons/Saints old fashioned shootout. My luck one of AD's Colts suggestions will now blow up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,302 Posted November 9, 2019 I think you’re fine. That’s just one of the downsides of cash leagues. If they don’t like it, change the rules Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted November 9, 2019 Either your league has rules around you needing to fill a full lineup, or they don't. If they don't, then do what is best for your team and your pocket book, If they do, then it is what it is. You would then need to plan to fill it no matter what. The league should have detailed rules around this scenario unless they are just fine with incomplete lineups. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,172 Posted November 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Baker Boy said: No, you are not that guy! Sometimes I don’t field a full team because I don’t want to drop anyone, don’t let the money get in your way of rational thinking. If you don't have anyone you want to drop, I agree that it is fine to field an incomplete lineup. For $5 I think it is kinda bush to not pick someone up, and I think nzoner made the right call. The only way to prevent this IMO is to have a financial penalty for an incomplete lineup, say $15 in this case? Then you have a choice; if you want that bench fodder in week 10 so badly, pay up. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5-Points 2,716 Posted November 10, 2019 18 hours ago, fandandy said: I can kinda see it both ways. I hate to be in a league where someone is already out of it so they stop trying. At least have some self-respect and try to be a spoiler. In your case though, if nobody as good or better is available on the waiver and you don't have a player you are willing to drop I would prolly do the same thing as you. This Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 10, 2019 16 hours ago, jerryskids said: If you don't have anyone you want to drop, I agree that it is fine to field an incomplete lineup. For $5 I think it is kinda bush to not pick someone up, and I think nzoner made the right call. The only way to prevent this IMO is to have a financial penalty for an incomplete lineup, say $15 in this case? Then you have a choice; if you want that bench fodder in week 10 so badly, pay up. If you are picking someone up because you don’t want to appear to be cheap that is up to you. H2H leagues are a joke and should only be played by novices. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,172 Posted November 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said: If you are picking someone up because you don’t want to appear to be cheap that is up to you. H2H leagues are a joke and should only be played by novices. I am picking someone up because, in the scenario I outlined if you knew how to read, I had somebody who was droppable. I also only play for money in leagues with friends, and I made a commitment to field a competitive team. There are pluses and minuses to H2H vs. total points. You probably include bench points, a thrilling scenario in which you draft in August and check in in December. Woo hoo! Also, I've forgotten more about FF than you've ever known. Next year why don't you join IBL and show us how it's done, gramps? 96 owners from around the world representing 8 sites. See you there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 10, 2019 16 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I am picking someone up because, in the scenario I outlined if you knew how to read, I had somebody who was droppable. I also only play for money in leagues with friends, and I made a commitment to field a competitive team. There are pluses and minuses to H2H vs. total points. You probably include bench points, a thrilling scenario in which you draft in August and check in in December. Woo hoo! Also, I've forgotten more about FF than you've ever known. Next year why don't you join IBL and show us how it's done, gramps? 96 owners from around the world representing 8 sites. See you there. Is it H2H? Your lack of knowledge about total points leagues shows you are a light weight. i understood your question and I would have dropped Sheppard too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,595 Posted November 10, 2019 H2h and total points leagues both suck. Stop playing that way. Breakdown is the way to go. You'll never look back once you change to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 10, 2019 Just to be clear our league is a combination scoring league,although we play HTH with a small cash prize at the end for best record that does not guarantee you a playoff appearance.Playoffs are decided by weekly points awarded 0-11 based on total points for that week vs. rest of league.My team is a perfect example with a 4-5 overall record but dead last in the accumulation of the 0-11 points added weekly through week 9. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,172 Posted November 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Baker Boy said: Is it H2H? Your lack of knowledge about total points leagues shows you are a light weight. Well, I don't know how your particular league of fantasy savants do it. You are aware that there are multiple formats, right? Nah, nevermind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nzoner 936 Posted November 10, 2019 1st half down and that Ted Ginn $5 add is looking good Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert 1,087 Posted November 11, 2019 I can understand not paying for the move. In our league waiver moves are $2 and losses cost $10. The problem usually takes care of itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,479 Posted November 11, 2019 You don’t manage your team to the expectations of others. You play to WIN your league! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
