shorepatrol 1,737 Posted January 4, 2020 2 hours ago, Strike said: MDC admits all he does it troll. No real reason to engage with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted January 4, 2020 I do not mind blowing this dude up but we don't need to be in Syria or Iran. GTFO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Casual Observer 597 Posted January 4, 2020 13 hours ago, sderk said: They will never sort things out themselves. And along the way of forever, millions of innocent people will die and/or be tortured and/or live in servitude to terrorism. What they do to their own people, just like in N. Korea, is enslave the masses. In Sunni countries and wherever Sunni extremism (Wahhabism) is exported, people suffer. You don't see us bombing Saudi, where a lot of this extremism originates, or Turkey, who right now is exporting the Syrian terrorist rebels it supported in Syria over to Libya to fight in a civil war of sorts over there. Be that as it may, it's not our job to police these people or save the world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted January 4, 2020 3 hours ago, MDC said: We killed OBL in retaliation for 9/11. We killed an Iranian security director in retaliation for broken windows and fires at a foreign embassy. You’re comparing oranges, coconuts and cinderblocks. I have six notifications from you between 3 and 5 am. Better sleep might help you get it in. "Security director". What a ballbag. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted January 4, 2020 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: "Security director". What a ballbag. Sounds like he was just middle management. He was only responsible for approving time cards and expense reports. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted January 4, 2020 1 minute ago, DonS said: Sounds like he was just middle management. He was only responsible for approving time cards and expense reports. Osama Bin Laden was director of international affairs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 343 Posted January 4, 2020 Our entanglements in the Middle East are dangerously complicated. On the surface I sort of defer to the POTUS and the narrative goes like this: Oppressed Iranians are glad this guy has been taken out. Apparently he has a lot of innocent blood on his hands. Take a few strategic people out and the country may be able to liberate itself much easier, granted that's not our point here. To our point though, if you are the POTUS and you have intelligence that an attack is imminent/there's credible evidence Americans are under mortal threat, and you have the ability to surgically remove the mastermind, throw it off, and to show we aren't going to shirk away from the next step up in response...seems like the necessary choice to make. Below the surface, there's a possibility that propaganda is abounding over how the aggression has been escalating, all the way preceding the murder of the American contractor. Maybe we have more accountability in the chain of provocation, which would mean we might have a just means of cooling tensions. Above that, the content and accuracy of our read on what was being planned is of paramount importance. Worth reading if you're not sure (which I think most everyone who doesn't know the intelligence behind this should be) about this move: A former CIA analyst's concerns If there's a way for Trump to release the intelligence he based this decision on in a way that doesn't compromise our intelligence community and processes, I'm thinking that would be the best possible thing to do here (assuming most of us would understand the call as a result). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted January 4, 2020 45 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: "Security director". What a ballbag. Come on people, give him credit. That made me laugh out loud. It's like Eddie Murphy in his prime level funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted January 4, 2020 38 minutes ago, naomi said: If there's a way for Trump to release the intelligence he based this decision on in a way that doesn't compromise our intelligence community and processes, I'm thinking that would be the best possible thing to do here. Why? To appease the biitchy, whiny, anti-American liberals? They won't be satisfied with anything the President does. Fukk them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naomi 343 Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, lickin_starfish said: Why? To appease the biitchy, whiny, anti-American liberals? They won't be satisfied with anything the President does, ever. Fukk them. There's definitely people who were going to have a major objection to this regardless of the details. They will knee-jerk think the absolute worst of the president's motives and judgement. But, there's also people on both sides of the aisle and in between that aren't sure about the wisdom of it and more information would help. People concerned and leaning to it being a bad decision, and people entirely on the fence like myself. It's healthy and it's American to be in either camp. I'm reading from people like Dan Crenshaw explaining why he thinks it was a good call and libertarian minded folks with defense and military backgrounds with concern. Through it all, more information would be Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted January 4, 2020 I do admit I miss the old days when we would pull stuff like this and blame it on someone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted January 4, 2020 Some people did something 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted January 4, 2020 there isnt a damn person in this world that thinks this wasnt the right choice what they disagree with is who the President was when it occurred If Obama said this dude killed Americans or was plotting to kidnap and kill Americans, every person on both sides would say take the focker out, but Trump TDS. There was no divide on killing Bin Laden 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted January 4, 2020 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: there isnt a damn person in this world that thinks this wasnt the right choice what they disagree with is who the President was when it occurred If Obama said this dude killed Americans or was plotting to kidnap and kill Americans, every person on both sides would say take the focker out, but Trump TDS. There was no divide on killing Bin Laden Post of the year. I'm a bit envious that I didn't put this into words before you did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,963 Posted January 4, 2020 Compare and contrast, How Obama handled Soleimani vs. Trump: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/iran/11741235/Obamas-Iran-deal-has-just-granted-an-amnesty-to-the-worlds-leading-terrorist-mastermind.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted January 4, 2020 I’m not worried about Iran. They don’t play in the SEC and they haven’t even played anybody Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted January 4, 2020 Kaepernick says "This isn't about war or protecting US or US citizens, its about Trump wanting to kill minorities" LOL! https://www.foxnews.com/sports/soleimani-colin-kaepernick-us-terrorist-attacks-black-brown-people 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, tubby_mcgee said: Kaepernick says "This isn't about war or protecting US or US citizens, its about Trump wanting to kill minorities" LOL! https://www.foxnews.com/sports/soleimani-colin-kaepernick-us-terrorist-attacks-black-brown-people Holy crap. Kaepernick can't keep his mouth shut even about this? Another total TDS meltdown. Of course, he just hates white people in general. Talk about racism that gets not only looked over in this country, but often times celebrated by the leftists. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted January 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, Fireballer said: Walker was a very underrated American Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Fireballer said: An enemy of the enemy is their friend. Iran Terrorist are now friends of United States Liberals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted January 5, 2020 10 hours ago, MDC said: No. But I also don’t see any reason we’re escalating toward war with Iran. They are what they are and have been for decades. You really want another ME quagmire? But that wasn't your previous point now was it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted January 5, 2020 Hershel Walker - Former NY Giant. Proud. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: But that wasn't your previous point now was it. My point was that Trumpers have no principles at all except loyalty to the cult leader. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 5, 2020 5 hours ago, MDC said: My point was that Trumpers have no principles at all except loyalty to the cult leader. And yet if this all happened in 2011, then you would be saying things like this: Quote On 5/2/2011 at 11:40 AM, MDC said: Great day for America and Americans. Bad day for terrorists and welchers. Quote On 5/2/2011 at 12:05 AM, MDC said: Quote On 5/1/2011 at 11:58 PM, GettnHuge said: I wanna know why we are committing terrorist acts and assassinations inside nations which we are not at war with. Hussein is a war criminal Shut the fvck up, hippie. Quote On 5/2/2011 at 12:21 PM, MDC said: Posted May 2, 2011 On 5/2/2011 at 12:09 PM, Phurfur said: I don't see anything changing for the better. This is not an end to the war on terrorism. Agreed, but I'm still glad that fvcker is dead. TDS much dude? Talk about being in a cult... 1 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tubby_mcgee 686 Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, MDC said: My point was that Trumpers have no principles at all except loyalty to the cult leader. Wait. You just attempted to insult us by calling us liberal? The biggest insult you can muster, is calling us Libs? LOL. What does that tell ya about yourself? Libs are known as lemmings and sheep for a reason. They follow. Conservatives will say "Faaaaawwwwwwk you" to anyone and everyone. Ever seen Trump speak? He doesn't give a fock about your teary eyed feelings. That's why we elected him. We think on our own. We don't like whiny little cucks. Neither does Trump. Libs, toe the line. Base everything on feelings, emotions, and rooting against America. Go have a good cry, a glass of warm milk and wear a hijab to bed. 2 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 5, 2020 https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-comes-against-trump-012924479.html One of the most prominent figures on Fox News isn’t joining in on the cheerleading of President Donald Trump’s assassination of Iran’s most important military leader. During his show on Friday, host Tucker Carlson delivered a lengthy monologue criticizing the escalation of tensions with Iran sparked by the killing of Iranian Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani, who died in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq on Thursday. Does this make Carlson SJW also? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Frozenbeernuts said: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-comes-against-trump-012924479.html One of the most prominent figures on Fox News isn’t joining in on the cheerleading of President Donald Trump’s assassination of Iran’s most important military leader. During his show on Friday, host Tucker Carlson delivered a lengthy monologue criticizing the escalation of tensions with Iran sparked by the killing of Iranian Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani, who died in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq on Thursday. Does this make Carlson SJW also? TC marches to his own drum. It’s not nearly the first time he has broken with republican orthodoxy. He has consistently railed against republican elitists as well as liberal ones. He did a segment Friday night on out of control executive compensation in comparison to workers. He did another on republican governors requesting refugees to be resettled in their states. That along with his segment against war with Iran was on one show. He’s been saying for years now that the swamp is itching for a war with Iraq. But a-holes like MDC who never bother to watch think he’s just another Fox talking head. Not even close. Some of his segments could be on MSNBC. Well, MSNBC pre - TDS. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,579 Posted January 5, 2020 TC is a true isolationist and always has been Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted January 5, 2020 This anyone related to Octomom? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Filthy Fernadez 2,696 Posted January 5, 2020 20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: MDC’s woman was tall and slender back then. That's because his 'woman' was called Bruce Jenner back then. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-comes-against-trump-012924479.html One of the most prominent figures on Fox News isn’t joining in on the cheerleading of President Donald Trump’s assassination of Iran’s most important military leader. During his show on Friday, host Tucker Carlson delivered a lengthy monologue criticizing the escalation of tensions with Iran sparked by the killing of Iranian Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani, who died in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq on Thursday. Does this make Carlson SJW also? This demonstrates why Carlson is more reliable than anything you might find on CNN or MSDNC or any others, he speaks truth about situations not for ratings but because there are always basic truths. i may not always agree with him, as in this instance, but at least I trust that his opinion is based on logic, fact, reasoned judgement and not simply hate for those with whom he is ideologically opposed.....which predominates leftists positions and also the democratic apparatus 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 5, 2020 12 hours ago, sderk said: And yet if this all happened in 2011, then you would be saying things like this: TDS much dude? Talk about being in a cult... Bin Laden. MDCDS much? 10:30 on a Saturday. No wonder you don’t get it in. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 5, 2020 1 minute ago, RLLD said: This demonstrates why Carlson is more reliable than anything you might find on CNN or MSDNC or any others, he speaks truth about situations not for ratings but because there are always basic truths. i may not always agree with him, as in this instance, but at least I trust that his opinion is based on logic, fact, reasoned judgement and not simply hate for those with whom he is ideologically opposed.....which predominates leftists positions and also the democratic apparatus I don't see any reason to call someone SJW for disagreeing with the decision to take out Soleimani when someone like Carlson disagrees with it also Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said: I don't see any reason to call someone SJW for disagreeing with the decision to take out Soleimani when someone like Carlson disagrees with it also But there is reason. carlson is someone who does not bend to ideology, whereas so many others clearly do, and continue to parrot ridiculous claim after ridiculous claim solely to go after a president who has been more effective at serving the American people than almost every other in memory people need to stop pretending their dislike for him as a person matters, only the outcome actually matter Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 5, 2020 25 minutes ago, MDC said: Bin Laden. MDCDS much? 10:30 on a Saturday. No wonder you don’t get it in. Look who likes to go on personal attacks cause he can't defend his hypocrisy. MDC does!!! Quote On 5/2/2011 at 11:40 AM, MDC said: Great day for America and Americans. Bad day for terrorists and welchers. Quote 13 hours ago, MDC said: My point was that Trumpers have no principles at all except loyalty to the cult leader. Quote On 5/2/2011 at 12:05 AM, MDC said: On 5/1/2011 at 11:58 PM, GettnHuge said: I wanna know why we are committing terrorist acts and assassinations inside nations which we are not at war with. Hussein is a war criminal Shut the fvck up, hippie. What a dlck. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted January 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Frozenbeernuts said: https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/tucker-carlson-comes-against-trump-012924479.html One of the most prominent figures on Fox News isn’t joining in on the cheerleading of President Donald Trump’s assassination of Iran’s most important military leader. During his show on Friday, host Tucker Carlson delivered a lengthy monologue criticizing the escalation of tensions with Iran sparked by the killing of Iranian Quds Force commander Qassem Soleimani, who died in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq on Thursday. Does this make Carlson SJW also? Tucker nails it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Tucker nails it. Yes. He nails the way he feels about it. I don't always agree with him but he is great in his approach and in his thinking. It sucks that lefties attacked his home because they can't handle his logical take on today's politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted January 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Tucker nails it. Yep. Trumpers will just accuse him of getting absorbed by the Deep State. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites