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I sure would and I suspect most non-New Englanders would too.  I think in the right scenario with a solid team around him he could be effective even as the pocket passer systems seem to be dwindling these days in the NFL.  I would love it.  There are some teams that might be a QB away from making some noise.  And it also lets us see Hoodie have to make due with a new QB himself.  Very interesting stuff, IMO.

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Seeing Brady returing to The Pats would be a good thing, but more fun and interesting would be to see him playing on another team. 

I don’t agree about his ability to help lead a sold team to anything much, I think he’ll need a very good team to make a big difference, you can see how his skills are diffently fading.  

As for the hoodie it well be fun to see if he can win without  Brady. 

If Brady retires I think that would also be a good move for him  

 

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I'd love to see what he could do with Evans, Godwin, Brate, and Howard.  I think Tampa could have the most prolific offense to date.

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4 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'd love to see what he could do with Evans, Godwin, Brate, and Howard.  I think Tampa could have the most prolific offense to date.

Brady in that offense would have half the production of Winston, if he could even remain the starter in a Bruce Arians offense that calls for more air yards per target than any other offense.

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37 minutes ago, AxeElf said:

Brady in that offense would have half the production of Winston, if he could even remain the starter in a Bruce Arians offense that calls for more air yards per target than any other offense.

Brady has averaged over 600 pass attempts (per 16 games), since 2011, so there's not really much that'll change in Tampa.  Add to that, the likelihood that he'll probably have to throw less, simply because of the volume he won't need to partake in, since he won't be turning the ball over.  In 2016 and 2017, there wasn't a big difference in air yards between Carson Palmer and Brady.  The difference is rather small.  Sure, last year the difference between Winston and Brady was significant, but that's because of a huge drop by Brady due to the lack of weapons.  Also, Winston's was higher than Palmer's, because Winston sucks.  A better QB in Tampa won't have to attempt as many passes, nor will an exorbitant amount of air yards be required.

Brady would probably replicate his 2007 or 2011 season.

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1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'd love to see what he could do with Evans, Godwin, Brate, and Howard.  I think Tampa could have the most prolific offense to date.

Just asking this question, you talking about ff wise, or just based on the team.  

FF wise I would need to lower my rankings on both of those WRs , on the field wise, he could help them , but I don’t think that Brady himself as the ability today to take this team anywhere without a better running game.  

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Just now, weepaws said:

Just asking this question, you talking about ff wise, or just based on the team.  

FF wise I would need to lower my rankings on both of those WRs , on the field wise, he could help them , but I don’t think that Brady himself as the ability today to take this team anywhere without a better running game.  

I'd say both.  When you have a QB throw for 5000+ yards and 50+ TD's, there's a lot of receptions, yards, and TD's to go around.  The Bucs don't have a ton of passing options after the 4 I mentioned.  Are all 4 going to get all of the yards and TD's?  No, but I think Brate gets knocked down a lot.  I think both Evans and Godwin are good for around 2700 yards and 25 TD's.  I think Howard would get about 900 yards and 6 TD's.  Brate would probably be around 500 and 4.  Sure, that's around 4000 yards and 35 TD's, I think 1000 yards and 15 TD's would be spread to other weapons.  I don't see why you'd shy away from any of those receivers from being #1's or Howard for that matter.  Now, injuries could play a part.  Anyone taking Howard would be playing with fire since he's missed games every year, but that would go into general evaluations.

Jones would instantly be better with Brady back there and the Bucs could go out and draft another RB.  It's not like there aren't a bunch available in every draft.  They could also go out and sign a guy like Jordan Howard too.  My biggest concern for the Bucs would be whether they could upgrade the OLine.

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Don’t agree that Jones would become a better rb because of Brady.  

Howard would be the only one I can see benefit from Brady.  

But in that type of system, I don’t think Brady has the game for those players to produce those number. 

I would have to lower their respective rankings, all but Howard. 

I don’t think Jones is all that great, don’t see Brady of today making him better.  

One thing I know that would happen, more ticket sales.  

Godwin and Evans in non ppr both avg over 12 ff points per game, and that with a Qb that throw for 30plus tds, but also throw for over 5000 yards, I can see Brady hitting 39 tds but he passing yards, so yeah own would diffently see a difference in their production. 

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Brady should retire, but if he doesn’t Id love to see go to a contender.  Nothing would be better than to see him go out in a train wreck season like tanking a good, up and coming team with talented skill players.

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1 hour ago, JagFan said:

Brady should retire, but if he doesn’t Id love to see go to a contender.  Nothing would be better than to see him go out in a train wreck season like tanking a good, up and coming team with talented skill players.

The Jaguars?

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Here is the full list of odds on where Tom Brady will play next season a/o 1/10/2020 from Westgate SuperBook:

  • New England Patriots -400
  • Retire 4-1
  • Los Angeles Chargers 5-1
  • Oakland Raiders 6-1
  • Denver Broncos 10-1
  • Carolina Panthers 10-1
  • Cleveland Browns 15-1
  • Tennessee Titans 18-1
  • Chicago Bears 20-1
  • Miami Dolphins 20-1
  • Field 5-2

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I'm a Pats homer, and I hope he goes elsewhere or retires. His skills are obviously diminishing, and I don't want the Pats to overpay ( or even simply pay) for him. I'd rather they use the money to build up elsewhere, plus I'd like to see what they can do without him.

The other day I was driving home from work listening to local sports radio. They were saying there are rumblings that Brady is softening his stance, and would consider take the hometown discount. I shouted "No" so loud I think the guy in the car next to me looked over at me.

It's been a great run, but it's time to move on.

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16 hours ago, Thornton Melon said:

I'm a Pats homer, and I hope he goes elsewhere or retires. His skills are obviously diminishing, and I don't want the Pats to overpay ( or even simply pay) for him. I'd rather they use the money to build up elsewhere, plus I'd like to see what they can do without him.

The other day I was driving home from work listening to local sports radio. They were saying there are rumblings that Brady is softening his stance, and would consider take the hometown discount. I shouted "No" so loud I think the guy in the car next to me looked over at me.

It's been a great run, but it's time to move on.

I think the guy was looking at you to see if you were going to do the triple lindy.

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On 1/11/2020 at 10:43 AM, Ironmen said:

Here is the full list of odds on where Tom Brady will play next season a/o 1/10/2020 from Westgate SuperBook:

  • New England Patriots -400
  • Retire 4-1
  • Los Angeles Chargers 5-1
  • Oakland Raiders 6-1
  • Denver Broncos 10-1
  • Carolina Panthers 10-1
  • Cleveland Browns 15-1
  • Tennessee Titans 18-1
  • Chicago Bears 20-1
  • Miami Dolphins 20-1
  • Field 5-2

I can definitely see John Elway paying up for Brady.  Mike Mayock won't.  I'd take NE, DEN, or the field.  I don't think he's going to retire.

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1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I can definitely see John Elway paying up for Brady.  Mike Mayock won't.  I'd take NE, DEN, or the field.  I don't think he's going to retire.

I think Denver is just fine with Drew Lock as their QB of the future.  They went 4-1 with Lock to end the season, including a win over the 4th seed in the AFC (Houston), losing only to the eventual Super Bowl champs, the Chiefs.  They would probably see Brady as a step back at this point.

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Of the teams on that list, Panthers would be the one. 

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14 hours ago, AxeElf said:

I think Denver is just fine with Drew Lock as their QB of the future.  They went 4-1 with Lock to end the season, including a win over the 4th seed in the AFC (Houston), losing only to the eventual Super Bowl champs, the Chiefs.  They would probably see Brady as a step back at this point.

I don't discount this, but I still wouldn't put it past Elway.

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Honestly I'd love to see Brady retire.

Too often we see players continue to play past their expiry date.   When you have to witness this, its more sad than anything.

I'd rather he retire so I dont have to see this happen.

Its no fun seeing a player with nothing left in the tank putting in the motions as a shadow of their former self.

Love him or hate him, you will derive no satisfaction seeing this.

Some of you may feel differently, but this is my opinion.

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On ‎1‎/‎12‎/‎2020 at 8:19 AM, Thornton Melon said:

I'm a Pats homer, and I hope he goes elsewhere or retires. His skills are obviously diminishing, and I don't want the Pats to overpay ( or even simply pay) for him. I'd rather they use the money to build up elsewhere, plus I'd like to see what they can do without him.

The other day I was driving home from work listening to local sports radio. They were saying there are rumblings that Brady is softening his stance, and would consider take the hometown discount. I shouted "No" so loud I think the guy in the car next to me looked over at me.

It's been a great run, but it's time to move on.

 

I would absolutely love to see Brady go to the Dolphins and stick it to the pats twice per season for the next 3 years. 

Is there fanbase for the NFL out there who come off more spoiled than pat fans? 

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10 hours ago, Ray_T said:

Honestly I'd love to see Brady retire.

Too often we see players continue to play past their expiry date.   When you have to witness this, its more sad than anything.

I'd rather he retire so I dont have to see this happen.

Its no fun seeing a player with nothing left in the tank putting in the motions as a shadow of their former self.

Love him or hate him, you will derive no satisfaction seeing this.

Some of you may feel differently, but this is my opinion.

I feel differently about it, I would like to see him play with another team next season, not to see him fail, or even succeed, but just see him on another team would be cool. 

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