Coronavirus - Doomsday

[Cdub100 3,380]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Most of the teachers that I know actually want to be in the classroom.  I don't know a single one that wants to teach from home because they hate it.  They'd rather risk getting COVID.

My wife is a teacher and yes most want to be back in the classroom. The teachers union are the ones keeping them out. Just another reason to hate unions IMO.

[tanatastic 2,061]

Finally one friend I know got it. Lost taste and smell, feels like . On the back end of it now feeling better but still lethargy and crap if he tries to do anything physical. Won’t need a hospital trip or ICU bed. 
 

Another friend had an old uncle die of pneumonia complications, I’m curious if they mark him as a covid death.

[drobeski 3,061]

That fauci guy.... sure likes to lie. 

 

[NorthernVike 2,080]

10 minutes ago, drobeski said:

That fauci guy.... sure likes to lie. 

 

Focker should be charged with war crimes against the American citizens. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 hour ago, drobeski said:

That fauci guy.... sure likes to lie. 

 

Dude needs the death penalty along with peolosi and creepy joe.

[Cdub100 3,380]

1 hour ago, drobeski said:

That fauci guy.... sure likes to lie. 

 

Dip sh1t fauci tells you in the video. "YOU HAVE TO BE HUMBLE!!!!" The numbers he brings up are bullsh1t estimates. So wear your focking mask forever, because he and the government are never going to allow you to live a normal life again.

 

[TimHauck 1,799]

5 hours ago, drobeski said:

That fauci guy.... sure likes to lie. 

 

Yeah, no way to defend those herd immunity comments IMO.

I honestly didn't realize he actually admitted part of the reason for not recommending masks was because of the shortage, so can't really defend that either (however part of the reason as he noted was that there were very few cases at the time and also because we didn't realize that presymptomatic and to a lesser extent asymptomatic infection was that likely).

But my only other comment on the mask point is you guys keep saying "FAUCI SAID DON'T WEAR MASKS!!" and are taking that as if he was right when he said that.   As shown in this video, he admitted he lied and he knew people should be wearing them.   So you can't have it both ways...

 

[Strike 3,965]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

But my only other comment on the mask point is you guys keep saying "FAUCI SAID DON'T WEAR MASKS!!" and are taking that as if he was right when he said that.   As shown in this video, he admitted he lied and he knew people should be wearing them.   So you can't have it both ways...

 

Please be more specific in defining "you guys."  I think it's a small number of people.  Many of us who may be strongly opposed to the idiotic restrictions being imposed on us have NOT said we believe mask usage is worthless, and we'd rather you not group us in with others who may have said that just because we don't believe in many of the restrictions on our liberty.

[drobeski 3,061]

57 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah, no way to defend those herd immunity comments IMO.

I honestly didn't realize he actually admitted part of the reason for not recommending masks was because of the shortage, so can't really defend that either (however part of the reason as he noted was that there were very few cases at the time and also because we didn't realize that presymptomatic and to a lesser extent asymptomatic infection was that likely).

But my only other comment on the mask point is you guys keep saying "FAUCI SAID DON'T WEAR MASKS!!" and are taking that as if he was right when he said that.   As shown in this video, he admitted he lied and he knew people should be wearing them.   So you can't have it both ways...

 

Mask wearing has been major league increased country wide... cases still going up.  

They don't focking work. SCIENCE !!!!

[TimHauck 1,799]

9 hours ago, drobeski said:

Mask wearing has been major league increased country wide... 

In stores yes and some workplaces, everywhere else not so much.

I don’t think they should be expected to, but most people don’t wear them when seeing friends or family though.   For example here is an op-Ed from the “Provincial Health Officer” for British Columbia - she knows masks aren’t perfect, but they help, and also knows most people aren’t going to wear them at family/social gatherings which is where a lot of recent infections are coming from: https://bc.ctvnews.ca/mobile/dr-bonnie-henry-op-ed-why-b-c-doesn-t-have-a-universal-mask-mandate-1.5191721

[TimHauck 1,799]

10 hours ago, Strike said:

Please be more specific in defining "you guys."  I think it's a small number of people.  Many of us who may be strongly opposed to the idiotic restrictions being imposed on us have NOT said we believe mask usage is worthless, and we'd rather you not group us in with others who may have said that just because we don't believe in many of the restrictions on our liberty.

Ok fair enough, it’s not everyone but it’s quite a few (who are also among the most vocal)

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Ok fair enough, it’s not everyone but it’s quite a few (who are also among the most vocal)

Name them. Should be easy, seeing as there are quite a few. 

[TimHauck 1,799]

On 12/30/2020 at 2:58 PM, Fireballer said:

Virus may be different, but NOTHING is different about inhaling .3 microns.  Masks don't work.  Respiratory protection methods are old and proven or unproven for a given hazard.  I've been fit tested on N95s for 25+ years and written policy to adhere to OSHA CFRs. Fauci didn't say the words "wear a face covering" because he knows it doesn't work.

 

On 9/25/2020 at 4:03 PM, lod001 said:

About fockin time. I am sick of this mask bullsh1t. 

 

On 9/25/2020 at 10:45 PM, Cruzer said:

If masks work so damn well, those still scared can wear one.

Leave the rest of us alone. 

 

On 9/25/2020 at 10:50 PM, FlyinHeadlock said:

If one want to wear it and hide in a cave then go ahead. Rest of us who are in shape, healthy and not fat POS's NO. Leave us alone. This is your fat out of shape POS disease. Own your disgusting obesity.  

 

On 9/25/2020 at 11:16 PM, wiffleball said:

Well I'm old and dying a couple different things. And I hang out in a bar where nobody wears a f****** mask. Cuz they're f****** stupid. The masks that is. I've been tested for covid so many f****** times I lost track.

 

On 7/13/2020 at 3:23 PM, 5-Points said:

I can't wear a mask, I have a medical condition. I'm allergic to buIIshit.

 

On 7/20/2020 at 4:12 PM, Strike said:

Seems like the perfect place for this.  Mexico has more mask use than just about any country, but their Covid cases are through the roof:

https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/coronavirus/wearing-a-face-mask-is-mandatory-in-24-states/

But hey, masks work!!!

 

On 10/17/2020 at 11:51 PM, Goggins said:

I spent this week in a liberal city and every mother focker in town was wearing masks. 100% participation indoors. Every business had a threatening sign.

These people live in fear.

Amazing how different life is in a town with a republican mayor and republican sheriff. Nobody gives a fock, old people and hipsters wear masks, everyone else enjoys their freedom and dignity.

Best part is new cases keep going up in this liberal shite hole and none of the citizens have figured out that maybe their mask obedience isn't actually doing anything.

If cnn told liberals to eat a bullet I suspect a good percentage of them would actually do it.

 

On 10/21/2020 at 9:43 PM, Horseman said:

Masks have to be the dumbest part of the entire covid freak out. 

 

Then of course you have people like cdub and dro above who actually think masks make it worse.

[Fireballer 2,381]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then of course you have people like cdub and dro above who actually think masks make it worse.

Remember, knowing Covid is real and understanding that cloth face coverings don't work can exist at the same time. But, now, the phrasing on masks  is "multi-layer" cloth masks may reduce transmission down to 10 microns. How many layers? Again, all Fauci had to do back in March is say for people to wear a cloth face covering.  But he didn't because he's a smart man and knows it doesn't do sh!t. I've seen people getting sick wearing N95s and Tyvek suits.

[Fireballer 2,381]

Cloth face coverings are NOT a substitute for social distancing.  This photo is OK with most because they have simply made the symbolic effort of having something on their face.  This is not safe, yet accepted.

 

[lickin_starfish 1,480]

Krazy Karen loses her schit.

 

 

[KSB2424 3,083]

Yup, Trump is the Fascist  Dictator.  

https://notthebee.com/article/proposed-bill-would-grant-governor-cuomo--the-power-to-forcibly-detain-any-individual-or-group-suspected-of-being-a-carrier-of-a-contagious-disease

[Cruzer 1,992]

5 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Then of course you have people like cdub and dro above who actually think masks make it worse.

I still wear mine - mostly  bcoz I'm not a diick. But doesn't negate the fact I believe Covid has  been gravely overblown and economic reaction borderline ridiculous. 

[Fireballer 2,381]

38 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

Yup, Trump is the Fascist  Dictator.  

https://notthebee.com/article/proposed-bill-would-grant-governor-cuomo--the-power-to-forcibly-detain-any-individual-or-group-suspected-of-being-a-carrier-of-a-contagious-disease

JFC...our country won't survive much more.  I give it 20 years at most.

[KSB2424 3,083]

Just now, Cruzer said:

I still wear mine - mostly  bcoz I'm not a diick. But doesn't negate the fact I believe Covid has  been gravely overblown and economic reaction borderline ridiculous. 

Yup.  I wear a mask.  1. “Just in case” and 2. So people feel more comfortable when I’m out and about. With that said some National mandate or if some idiot says something if I’m outside walking they can go fock themselves.  

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

5 minutes ago, Cruzer said:

I still wear mine - mostly  bcoz I'm not a diick. But doesn't negate the fact I believe Covid has  been gravely overblown and economic reaction borderline ridiculous. 

Same 

[Fireballer 2,381]

So Nancy thinks its OK for Covid positive reps come to the Capitol to vote for her?  What a farce.

[KSB2424 3,083]

39 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So Nancy thinks its OK for Covid positive reps come to the Capitol to vote for her?  What a farce.

McConnell, Pelosi and Biden are America's government leaders.  230 years old combined, 150 years combined in government, all lifetime politicians who got rich doing so.  

America is full of sheep and idiots. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

11 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

So Nancy thinks its OK for Covid positive reps come to the Capitol to vote for her?  What a farce.

She also thinks it's ok to encourage the masses to go and frequent the restaurants in chinatown in SF and not where a mask to her hairdresser shop and then put the owner out of business because pelosi got caught, and now this. The socialist politicians really enjoy their lives at the cost of others don't they? 

[Cdub100 3,380]

6 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Then of course you have people like cdub and dro above who actually think masks make it worse.

Keep wearing your talisman for all I care. If your magical piece of cloth works like you says it works you should feel nice and safe.

Just like the Mormons and their magic underwear. You belong to a cult now. Own it and ignore decades of science for your new God Dr. Fauci. 

 

[TimHauck 1,799]

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Cloth face coverings are NOT a substitute for social distancing.  This photo is OK with most because they have simply made the symbolic effort of having something on their face.  This is not safe, yet accepted.

 

I agree.  Am I supposed to know who these people are?

[Reality 2,710]

2 hours ago, Cruzer said:

I still wear mine - mostly  bcoz I'm not a diick. But doesn't negate the fact I believe Covid has  been gravely overblown and economic reaction borderline ridiculous. 

Yup.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

20 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I agree.  Am I supposed to know who these people are?

Yeah, you voted for Trump.  

[TimHauck 1,799]

6 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Remember, knowing Covid is real and understanding that cloth face coverings don't work can exist at the same time. But, now, the phrasing on masks  is "multi-layer" cloth masks may reduce transmission down to 10 microns. How many layers? Again, all Fauci had to do back in March is say for people to wear a cloth face covering.  But he didn't because he's a smart man and knows it doesn't do sh!t. I've seen people getting sick wearing N95s and Tyvek suits.

I don’t think they’re magic or anything, but I think they help, especially for protecting people from the wearer, which was part of what Fauci said in March (he said they were more for sick people, and at the time we both didn’t have many cases and didn’t know the extent of people having it without any symptoms).  

[TimHauck 1,799]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yeah, you voted for Trump.  

OK I see one is AOC.  Don’t know the rest though.  

[Hardcore troubadour 12,631]

Just now, TimHauck said:

OK I see one is AOC.  Don’t know the rest though.  

Uh hu. 

[shorepatrol 1,737]

Mask fags or sooooooooooooooooo virtuous. Clown shoes 

[Fireballer 2,381]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I don’t think they’re magic or anything, but I think they help, especially for protecting people from the wearer, which was part of what Fauci said in March (he said they were more for sick people, and at the time we both didn’t have many cases and didn’t know the extent of people having it without any symptoms).  

Here's the thing...cloth masks are not doing anything to stop infection.  Really they aren't.  Think about whats going on at a micro level.  If a cloth mask stops a little spittle on a specific exhalation, it's still letting an unfathomable amount of .3 micron particles through.  And then, whatever Covid laden spittle is trapped in the cloth, is disbursed in subsequent exhalations, coughing, and sneezing.  Also, the CDC cautions against wearing masks with exhalation valves.  But, what is not addressed is that the contact surface between skin/mask is a giant exhalation valve.  Whatever aerosolized virus doesn't come straight out of the mask is escaping in all directions through the lack of a skin to mask seal.  I really have no problem with someone wearing a mask if it gives them peace of mind.  A vast majority of our population probably needs to do something to feel like they're fighting this or they would go crazy.  Masks are at least a visible symbol of the ongoing fight.  But this "lynch the mask deniers" rhetoric is pure political theater.

 

[Reality 2,710]

This is how serious Covid is.

 

[Strike 3,965]

8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

 

Then of course you have people like cdub and dro above who actually think masks make it worse.

Tim,

Let me be very clear about where I stand regarding masks since you chose to cherry pick ONE post from a thread with almost 10,000 posts in it as representative of what you seem to think I believe.

Masks may, on some technical level, be helpful.  There are a lot of variables, and I will detail the ones that come to mind below, and you tell me if you think society in general is following best practices regarding masks.  Also, unfortunately there are no standards and everyone is using their own judgment on what they think is adequate.  That's stupid.

For masks to be effective:

- The mask itself needs to do something.  There are commercial masks available that should help but most of those have to be thrown away after use and I don't think most people are using those.  Most people are using some form of reusable cloth mask.  But what is a cloth mask?  No one has said what type of cloth to use.  Every type of cloth will have different characteristics regarding stopping things from getting through it.  You see all sorts of them when you go out.  We've been given multiple cloth masks from friends who made their own out of whatever cloth they had laying around.  Alyssa focking Milano got caught wearing a mask that was crocheted together with big old gaps in it.  The point is, you can't know how effective any given mask is since there are not standards.

-  Unless you're using a disposable mask and throwing them away after each use, you need to be washing your cloth mask before each use.  Do you think people are doing that?  I'm sure as hell not.  I'd guess we wash our masks every couple weeks but it's not on any kind of schedule. 

- Many of the masks people wear don't fit really well.  So, the virus is still getting out.  It may not be as direct as not wearing a mask at all but this idea of "wear a mask" but not defining what that mask should entail, how well it should contain the virus, etc......makes this a really poor preventative measure that is giving people who buy in to it a false sense of security (see pic posted earlier today).

- In order for masks to be effective you can't touch them.  Once you touch it in the area that contacts your mouth/nose you've compromised it's effectiveness.  Do you think ANYONE is NOT touching their mask after putting it on?  They may be LESS effective if you contaminate it with Covid because now the Covid is on the mask and when you breath you just push it towards anyone in front of you.

For the reasons above, and I'm sure others I'm not thinking of at the moment, I don't believe masks are EFFECTIVE even though on a technical level they may be capable of helping.

As others have said as well, I wear my mask for the comfort level of others.  But I don't believe they're actually helping prevent the spread of this thing. 

Please save the above to a text file so that the next time you want to misrepresent my beliefs re: masks you can go back and reread it.

[nobody 2,037]

OfMasks are an arbitrary half-measure pimped by a guy who admits that he lies to achieve whatever happens to be on his agenda that day.  

Why does this random half-measure need to be imposed on everybody?  It's completely arbitrary.  That's why some people don't want to do it.  Why is this particular thing the minimum standard?  Why not PPE that we know would work well like a hood with intake and outflow filters?  Why not just washing hands?  Some random person decided masks were critical and now we all have to wear them.  It's dumb.

We're so terrible at this.  The only thing we've done better than they did in 1918 was operation warp speed.  We suck.

[drobeski 3,061]

6 hours ago, shorepatrol said:

Mask fags or sooooooooooooooooo virtuous. Clown shoes 

Nailed it 

[lickin_starfish 1,480]

5 hours ago, Strike said:

For masks to be effective:

 

-  Unless you're using a disposable mask and throwing them away after each use, you need to be washing your cloth mask before each use.  Do you think people are doing that?  I'm sure as hell not.  I'd guess we wash our masks every couple weeks but it's not on any kind of schedule.

I put an old bandana in my truck last March. I wear it into stores when they require a mask.

I haven't washed it one time.

[Fireballer 2,381]

D!ckbags are on both sides, but this displays the unequivocal submission to mask doctrine.  Wear the symbol, or else.

 

[Fireballer 2,381]

Why didn't they follow this up with "but wear some type of cloth face covering because it works" ?  And don't give me this shat about lack of knowledge of asymptomatic spread. Literally, its a weak argument.