shotsup 832 Posted January 25, 2020 Son turned 21 Sunday and he and his friends went to Atlantic City to (celebrate) play first casino Texas Hold ‘em on Tuesday. He said he held his own until this hand. He and one player left. Board has pair of eights. Nothing more. No high cards. No possible straights/flush. Other guy has played aggressive all game and lost so son put himself all in $300. Son. I have the eight. Other guy. Me too. Kickers - son Jack other guy Queen. That ended his day. Lesson learned - Don’t gamble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted January 25, 2020 14 minutes ago, shotsup said: Son turned 21 Sunday and he and his friends went to Atlantic City to (celebrate) play first casino Texas Hold ‘em on Tuesday. He said he held his own until this hand. He and one player left. Board has pair of eights. Nothing more. No high cards. No possible straights/flush. Other guy has played aggressive all game and lost so son put himself all in $300. Son. I have the eight. Other guy. Me too. Kickers - son Jack other guy Queen. That ended his day. Lesson learned - Don’t gamble. Don't gamble what you can't afford to lose is a better lesson. Gambling is fun Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 25, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, shorepatrol said: Don't gamble what you can't afford to lose is a better lesson. Gambling is fun I’ll give you that. As someone that recently quit gambling I played the don’t gamble card. He was responsible and only lost what he was prepared to lose. Edited January 25, 2020 by shotsup Lose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,626 Posted January 25, 2020 It was a good bet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted January 25, 2020 8 minutes ago, shotsup said: I’ll give you that. As someone that recently quit gambling I played the don’t gamble card. He was responsible and only lost what he was prepared to loose. All good then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,037 Posted January 25, 2020 better lesson might be don’t play J8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sderk 1,040 Posted January 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, nobody said: better lesson might be don’t play J8 Orrrrr......Play a lot more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, nobody said: better lesson might be don’t play J8 Call around then 8’s were on the flop Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,037 Posted January 25, 2020 Then the 2nd lesson would be don't lose all your money in the big blind in a limped pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,957 Posted January 25, 2020 12 hours ago, nobody said: Then the 2nd lesson would be don't lose all your money in the big blind in a limped pot. Yup. One of my favorite plays is to try to limp with small pairs from early position. If you get a passive table that will allow you to do that and hit you can make a lot of money. And I also hate hitting three of a kind in the manner it was done here. The only other (decent) players that are going to stay in on a bet will usually have you beat. It's a hand I'd rather stay away from. Question for the OP - DId you ask your kid what he put the other player on? Or was he simply acting based upon what he had and not what he thought the other guy had? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 25, 2020 The all in was after the turn not from the big blind. Don’t know when other players folded. And to answer Strike yes he was considering what the other guy had and he figured pocket high pair as nothing else on the board looked potentially solid. Also like I said other guy was aggressive and lost a lot previously Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,037 Posted January 26, 2020 An aggressive guy doesn’t raise a high pocket pair preflop? Limped pot to all-in on the turn? Lesson 3 pot control. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 26, 2020 It is what it is. You fvcking dorks slash “pros” have it all figured out. Assshole poker snobs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 26, 2020 That said. All you “pros”. (Douchebags) - what was his play ? Fold trip 8’s ?? It was a bad beat. He was one card away from a push. FVCK off Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 26, 2020 57 minutes ago, nobody said: An aggressive guy doesn’t a high pocket pair preflop? Limped pot to all-in on the turn? Lesson 3 pot control. Say that again in English please Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,957 Posted January 26, 2020 1 hour ago, shotsup said: That said. All you “pros”. (Douchebags) - what was his play ? Fold trip 8’s ?? It was a bad beat. He was one card away from a push. FVCK off Ask any pro. The hardest thing to do is dump certain hands. But yeah, that's what he should have done. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577 Posted January 26, 2020 There is no such thing as a bad beat 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted January 26, 2020 I was in a small tournament at someone's house playing hold em. I made it to the final 3. I was playing really well all night. One of the guys at the table was an older guy who was pretty drunk. I had bet the pot to a decent size off of nothing on this hand. 9 high. I knew the drunk guy didn't have anything, so I went all in trying to bluff on the river, approximately doubling the pot. He called. I couldn't believe it. He had Queen high. I don't remember anyone calling on that big of a bet with that small of a high card. Edit, there was an ace or king on the board. I don't remember. It was a really poor odds play for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bostonlager 2,462 Posted January 26, 2020 On 1/25/2020 at 12:42 AM, nobody said: better lesson might be don’t play J8 This. Why did he even see the flop? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,577 Posted January 26, 2020 there is no such thing as a bad beat there is no such thing as a tax loophole Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shotsup 832 Posted January 26, 2020 48 minutes ago, bostonlager said: This. Why did he even see the flop? Because he was big blind and his money was already in. Easy call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,037 Posted January 27, 2020 20 hours ago, shotsup said: That said. All you “pros”. (Douchebags) - what was his play ? Fold trip 8’s ?? It was a bad beat. He was one card away from a push. FVCK off First of all it's not a bad beat. If anything it's a cooler. And how was he one card away from a push? You said there were no high cards on the board. 20 hours ago, shotsup said: Say that again in English please Sorry. Raise. An aggressive player would raise a high pocket pair preflop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,037 Posted January 27, 2020 His play depends on the action. May we assume this was 1-2 or 1-3? So it's a limped pot. Flop comes something like 883. In a limped pot, you should absolutely assume someone else has at least an A8 and throw that shìt away to any major aggression. If you're getting 100-150 BB's into the pot on the turn, your opponent has at least an 8. He should have a full house. The move is check raise the flop and if someone goes apeshit, fold. At low stakes big bet = big hand almost every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites