My Starting Pitching Rotation

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

In my lifetime: 

Bob Gibson

Tom Seaver

Steve Carlton

Randy Johnson

Pedro. 

Koufax did most of his work before I was born.Jim Palmer is very difficult to leave off.  Catfish is close as well.  Jack Morris is a personal favorite and also great, but he doesn’t make it that high. Same for Nolan Ryan. 

[Drizzay 644]

It's tough for me, as a lot of my baseball viewing was during the steroid era.

Morris - for obvious reasons, being from MN.  Greatest Game 7 pitching performance ever

Maddox - I never seen a man control the strike zone like him

Pedro - had balls of steel

Dave Stewart - just a mean ass glare

 

I was too young for Bob Gibson, but my grandpa used to tell me stories.  He was a die-hard Cardinals fan.

[bandrus1 413]

In my lifetime

Johnson

Maddox

Pedro

Verlander

Scherzer

Clemens

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

12 minutes ago, Drizzay said:

It's tough for me, as a lot of my baseball viewing was during the steroid era.

Morris - for obvious reasons, being from MN.  Greatest Game 7 pitching performance ever

Maddox - I never seen a man control the strike zone like him

Pedro - had balls of steel

Dave Stewart - just a mean ass glare

 

I was too young for Bob Gibson, but my grandpa used to tell me stories.  He was a die-hard Cardinals fan.

Stewart was a bad ass.  Weird when you hear him talk. Good list. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

10 minutes ago, bandrus1 said:

In my lifetime

Johnson

Maddox

Pedro

Verlander

Scherzer

Clemens

 Verlander May have a spot when it’s all said and done. Definitely the best of his generation. I can accept some steroid use. But the over the top guys like Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Pudge and Clemens is where I draw the line. Otherwise Clemens is duking it out with R Johnson and Pedro for a spot. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

And I hate not having John Smoltz on my list. But he’s top ten. 

[avoiding injuries 1,220]

Born in 79...

Hershiser

Maddox

Pedro

Johnson

Halladay (to be different)

[shorepatrol 1,735]

53 minutes ago, bandrus1 said:

In my lifetime

Johnson

Maddox

Pedro

Verlander

Scherzer

Clemens

Schilling over Scherzer but I'm on board with the rest 

[frank 2,144]

I have been to maybe 6 or 7 mlb games. One of them was Maddox vs. Randy Johnson. It was awesome. 

[bandrus1 413]

1 hour ago, shorepatrol said:

Schilling over Scherzer but I'm on board with the rest 

I'll take the 3 time cy young winner who is still going strong

[shorepatrol 1,735]

32 minutes ago, bandrus1 said:

I'll take the 3 time cy young winner who is still going strong

Not a bad argument. I'll take the best post season pitcher though  

[shotsup 830]

I cannot compile my list at tiis time but I’ll say. 
Great thread HT

Doc Gooden is on my list. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

They should rename the Cy Young award to the Greg Maddox award.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

15 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

They should rename the Cy Young award to the Greg Maddox award.

 

34 minutes ago, shotsup said:

I cannot compile my list at tiis time but I’ll say. 
Great thread HT

Doc Gooden is on my list. 

I’ll never forget driving into NYC from Jersey coming up from N Carolina and seeing that huge Gooden mural on  one of the buildings on 42nd street after I came out of the of the Lincoln tunnel. Just got back from Japan and I said to myself I guess it’s a METS town now. 1985. It was. Biggest championships in the history of NYC in my time were the 86 METS and Giants, and the 94 Rangers. The city went nuts for those three teams.  

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Carlton

Palmer

R Johnson

Maddux

Clemens

[bostonlager 2,457]

Tom Browning

Jose Rijo

Johnny Cueto

Danny Jackson

5 man rotations are for pvssies

Closer - Rob Dibble 

[Kopy 489]

Greg Maddux

Tom Glavine

John Smoltz

Steve Avery

Kent Mercker

[TimmySmith 2,782]

19 minutes ago, Kopy said:

Greg Maddux

Tom Glavine

John Smoltz

Steve Avery

Kent Mercker

I'll bet you get a ton of wins out of those guys. And a WS. But not 2. 

[Kopy 489]

1 minute ago, TimmySmith said:

I'll bet you get a ton of wins out of those guys. And a WS. But not 2. 

[vuduchile 1,940]

Koufax

Gibson

Ryan

Johnson

Maddux

[edjr 5,546]

Imagine if Maddux pitched today? since they changed the strike zone. He'd be a JAG. Glavine too

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

A lot of Maddux love. I’ll take David Cone, thank you very much. A real bulldog. 

[edjr 5,546]

11 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

They should rename the Cy Young award to the Greg Maddox award.

   

[edjr 5,546]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

A lot of Maddux love. I’ll take David Cone, thank you very much. A real bulldog. 

Not from me. The strike zone was embarrassing. 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

12 minutes ago, edjr said:

Not from me. The strike zone was embarrassing. 

Eric Gregg. I remember watching that game in the bar before a Yankee playoff game and we all said if that happened in the Bronx there would be chairs getting thrown on the field. 

[cmh6476 748]

Nice to see some royals getting some love

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

15 hours ago, frank said:

I have been to maybe 6 or 7 mlb games. One of them was Maddox vs. Randy Johnson. It was awesome. 

We to a Sox-Yanks playoff game in Fenway 1999. Pedro vs Clemens. It sucked. Roger got rocked and everyone in Fenway called him fat. Then Mike Stanton came in and they called him fat too. Which didn’t make sense,  but they were on a roll. Love Fenway. I sat right next to Peskys poll. Took my lumps, it was fun. 

[WhiteWonder 2,170]

out of guys that I really watched a lot....

 

Justin Verlander

Randy Johnson

Pedro Martinez

Greg Maddux

Max Scherzer

(personal favorite : Tim Hudson)

 

Go ahead an argue Scherzer and Verlander over Smoltz / Halladay / Mussina / Clemens / etc....

 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

22 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

out of guys that I really watched a lot....

 

Justin Verlander

Randy Johnson

Pedro Martinez

Greg Maddux

Max Scherzer

(personal favorite : Tim Hudson)

 

Go ahead an argue Scherzer and Verlander over Smoltz / Halladay / Mussina / Clemens / etc....

 

Schrezer and Verlander are making their case for top 5. 

[vuduchile 1,940]

Clemens would be top 5 for me if it weren’t for the roids.   He, Gibson and Ryan were all cut from the same tough sunofabitch cloth. 

[bandrus1 413]

30 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Schrezer and Verlander are making their case for top 5. 

Both have maybe 3 solid years left and maybe 2 ok years left

 

On the all time lists they will both be highly regarded and both should be slam dunk high percent HOf

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

12 minutes ago, bandrus1 said:

Both have maybe 3 solid years left and maybe 2 ok years left

 

On the all time lists they will both be highly regarded and both should be slam dunk high percent HOf

Yes.  But I look at what Steve Carlton did to his numbers at the end chasing the money. He’s an all timer, but he did himself no favors finishing up. He could have finished with 300 wins and about 200 losses if he got out on time. 100 games over .500 and the 300 is nuts. Clemens is like 150 over. 

[bandrus1 413]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Yes.  But I look at what Steve Carlton did to his numbers at the end chasing the money. He’s an all timer, but he did himself no favors finishing up. 

And he probably doesn't regret it one bit

[Hardcore troubadour 12,576]

3 minutes ago, bandrus1 said:

And he probably doesn't regret it one bit

Yeah. He was probably making more at the end than in his prime. Fat pension too.