Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, Fireballer said: What facts is this statement based on? Blacks demand less police. More crime in the black community. Not a big leap. I think that’s what she’s talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,376 Posted June 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Blacks demand less police. More crime in the black community. Not a big leap. I think that’s what she’s talking about. I read it that her life was threatened due to the massive murders of black people by police Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, Fireballer said: I read it that her life was threatened due to the massive murders of black people by police I think she’s talking about what happens afterwards when the police give up. And they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,376 Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, Hardcore troubadour said: I think she’s talking about what happens afterwards when the police give up. And they are. Yes. The quiet, law abiding black person will be the greatest victim here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 16, 2020 Just now, Fireballer said: Yes. The quiet, law abiding black person will be the greatest victim here. No doubt. Maybe they won’t be killed, but their quality of life will go to shite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12th Man 884 Posted June 16, 2020 Makes sense to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,690 Posted June 17, 2020 21 hours ago, Strike said: Peenie, Are you more comfortable being pulled over by a white cop or a cop of color? If you answered cop of color, I have to ask why. Because the cop of color is more likely to kill you. If you answered a white cop there is nothing to discuss as you've made a reasonable judgment based upon data. I look forward to your stammering, trying to justify cops in general being racist despite the facts showing otherwise. 20 years from now your brain will be able to handle the truth: Quote For Black Police, Discrimination Abounds, Complicating Reform Efforts Dan Frosch, Ben Chapman 13 hrs ago Detective Luther Hall was working undercover during protests that gripped St. Louis in 2017 following the police shooting of a black man, when several officers in riot gear rushed up to him. Before Mr. Hall, who is black, could comply with their demands to get on the ground, he was body slammed by an officer, according to court filings. The 22-year veteran said the white officers punched, kicked and struck him with batons before a SWAT team member recognized him and hustled him away. Mr. Hall later told investigators that his fellow officers “beat the [expletive] out of him like Rodney King,” according to a Federal Bureau of Investigation affidavit. Though Detective Hall’s case, which has led to federal criminal charges against the officers involved, is extreme, black officers across the country say they commonly face harassment, discrimination and even abuse from their own departments, according to interviews and court filings. Many black officers said they understood the anger behind nationwide protests initially sparked by the killing of George Floyd. Not only does law enforcement need to change how they police minority communities, these officers said, but departments also need to change how they treat their own minority officers. “The same hell that black people were experiencing on the streets, we were experiencing inside the department,” said Eric Adams, who retired from the New York Police Department as a captain in 2006. Mr. Adams, who is now Brooklyn borough president, said the dynamic hasn’t changed. NYPD First Deputy Commissioner Benjamin Tucker, also black, said that the department had transformed its approach to race since he began his career there in 1968, when most officers were white. About 53% of the NYPD’s uniformed force is now nonwhite, according to department statistics. Census data shows that about 68% of New York City residents are nonwhite. But Mr. Tucker said more attention to racial issues within the department was needed, especially after the uproar over Mr. Floyd’s death. African-Americans have taken leadership positions in numerous large police departments across the country over the past 20 years. Still, nationwide, the number of black officers has stayed steady at about 11%, according to the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics. The Wall Street Journal has identified nearly two dozen lawsuits or settlements involving black officers who alleged discrimination against departments across the country over the past three years. In one 2018 federal discrimination lawsuit, several black officers in Arkansas with the Little Rock Police Department alleged white colleagues openly used racial slurs, harassed black citizens and unfairly disciplined black officers. The city, whose current and prior police chiefs are both black, settled the lawsuit in February for $200,000 without admitting wrongdoing. Sgt. Willie Davis, a plaintiff in the suit, said black officers didn’t always trust white commanders to take action if they reported misconduct. “Officers who look like me learn early that if you keep your mouth shut, you’ll be fine. So you develop this attitude of ‘going along, to get along,’” he said. Sgt. Davis said he was now uncomfortable encouraging the black youth he mentors to go into law enforcement. “I wouldn’t want them to endure what I see,” he said. Little Rock Police Chief Keith Humphrey said that the majority of his officers—white and black—were “amazing.” But he said a small group of white officers had stoked racial tensions within the department and caused problems for black colleagues. San Francisco Police Department Captain Yulanda Williams joined the force in 1990, hoping to improve relations between police and minorities. Last May, she sued the city and the Police Department, alleging she’d been targeted by white co-workers and supervisors for speaking out against racism and sexism. Co-workers harassed Ms. Williams for her Afrocentric hairstyle, according to the complaint, and a supervisor told her she needed to choose the police over her identity as a black person. “Pick a side. You seem confused about this,” the supervisor said, according to the complaint. Ms. Williams said trying to change the culture in the department was “like trying to turn the Titanic.” SFPD officials declined to comment. Heather Taylor, a supervisor with the St. Louis Metropolitan Police Department’s homicide division, is president of the Ethical Society of Police, a black officers’ group. Ms. Taylor said racism continued to afflict the department, where about 30% of the roughly 1,200 member force is black. About 47% of St. Louis residents are black. In one recent incident, Ms. Taylor said a white police dispatcher referred in a social-media post to people protesting Mr. Floyd’s death as “animals.” In a second recent incident, a black officer found a note in a precinct cabinet that read “Hitler rules,” she said. “Undeniably, there is racial tension among our ranks,” said St. Louis police Chief John Hayden, who is black, adding that new antibias training will examine officers’ interactions and decisions. Ms. Taylor said Detective Hall’s case showed the difference in how police often treated African-Americans in St. Louis. Mr. Hall had a white undercover partner who was unharmed despite also being arrested during the protests, according to court filings. “The Police Department makes it clear: When it comes down to it, you will be shown that you’re black first,” Ms. Taylor said. A federal grand jury indicted five St. Louis police officers on charges related to Mr. Hall’s beating and for trying to cover up what happened. Two pleaded guilty and are awaiting sentencing. The other three have pleaded not guilty. A lawyer for one of the officers said his client was innocent. Mr. Hall declined to comment through his lawyers. Some senior black law-enforcement officials said prejudice was ingrained in white colleagues who had little experience with black people outside of law enforcement. Charlie Smith, an African-American former Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives top official who retired in 2017, said he’d grown inured to racism during his career. On his first day as an ATF agent in 1987, Mr. Smith said a fellow agent asked him “How does it feel to get this job only because you’re a [racial slur]?” Twenty years later, now a SWAT commander, he recalled being pulled over while off-duty by white officers and handcuffed because they thought he matched a suspect’s description Mr. Smith said that too often, white police officers viewed black neighborhoods as dangerous places filled with bad people, a sentiment echoed by other black officers. In a 2015 study of smaller Northeastern police departments by the National Association of Black Law Enforcement Officers, 91% of 102 officers surveyed said that racial profiling existed within their agencies. Seventy percent said that police supervisors and administrators condoned the practice, the survey found. Last week in Little Rock, a young, black detective invited fellow police officers to join a peaceful protest to show solidarity with minority communities. When Chief Humphrey arrived, he was dismayed to find only four white officers showed up compared with 21 black officers, he said. “Those white officers who showed up…they did some reflecting and said ‘You know we need to do a better job, and we get it,’” Chief Humphrey said. Asked why he thought more white officers didn’t join, he said, “Some of it is fear. Some of it is ‘I don’t give a damn.’ Some of it is ‘Well, I don’t live in this city so it’s not my problem.’ Some just don’t know what to do.’” Just read all the nasty posts and racist cruel things you all say here everyday. You all are sick. And I'm even sicker for dealing with you all. Good riddance!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted June 17, 2020 17 minutes ago, peenie said: 20 years from now your brain will be able to handle the truth: Just read all the nasty posts and racist cruel things you all say here everyday. You all are sick. And I'm even sicker for dealing with you all. Good riddance!! If you're going to post an article post a link. Regardless, it's a bunch of anecdotal crap. Let's talk statistics. Supposedly you're some type of scientist or work in that field. You, as much as anybody, should know that conclusions should be formed based on good data. And we provide that to you daily. And you ignore it. Because you're a racist. And you ignore tough questions, like the one I posed to you yesterday, and the ones I posed to you last week, and the week before, and the week before. Very simple, non offensive questions that you CHOOSE to ignore. I wonder why....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,376 Posted June 17, 2020 Press conference starting soon about possible charges. Reasonableness judged by the facts known to that particular officer in that particular time. In this environment, I dont see how he doesnt see charges. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,376 Posted June 17, 2020 Charges coming but the stupid DA wont say what they are yet. Hes trying the case in this presser it seems. EDIT-11 charges including felony murder, agg assault. Its almost like theyre saying that their attempt to arrest was unlawful because the cop didnt articulate he was being arrested for DUI. In some states, you can use whatever force is necessary to resist an unlawful arrest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kilroy69 994 Posted June 17, 2020 I hope that the entire Atlanta PD resigns and lets the city burn to the ground. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted June 17, 2020 Zero way that is upheld. They are caught up in this whirlwind and not thinking rationally or legally. Zero chance I’d be a cop right now. Zero. You see all the police commissioner’s resigning as soon as they have an “out”. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted June 17, 2020 If found guilty you will have police officers quitting in mass and none wanting to ever work in an area where they have to deal with black people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted June 17, 2020 53 minutes ago, kilroy69 said: I hope that the entire Atlanta PD resigns and lets the city burn to the ground. You better believe something like this will happen. Not the whole department but similar. Black cops are dumbfounded at this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BiffTannen 651 Posted June 17, 2020 Looking at the bright side here. I would love to see this bring back sundown towns, where jurisdictions are free to say who is excluded from entering their city limits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 17, 2020 The amount of guns that have been purchased lately is going to come into play Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 3,956 Posted June 17, 2020 15 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Zero chance I’d be a cop right now. Zero. You see all the police commissioner’s resigning as soon as they have an “out”. I'm convinced that's why Atlanta's police chief resigned as soon as this incident happened. Just didn't want to deal with the shitshow and all the blaming of cops for something that was easily avoidable if the "victim" hadn't escalated the situation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 17, 2020 Venue change all but assured. Acquittal, world burns. Buy ammo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,376 Posted June 17, 2020 I dont have time to dig into this now, but apperently the GA Supreme Court established a taser as a deadly weapon in another case. Also, most tasers can be used as a direct contact weapon, not just shooting with wires. https://law.justia.com/cases/georgia/supreme-court/2019/s19a0803.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 17, 2020 Tasers can hit eyeballs. Trained operators know this and don’t point it there. I’ll go ahead and assume Rayshawn skipped that training day at the perp academy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,376 Posted June 17, 2020 I just watched the presser again and the DA describes him as "peacefully sleeping in his car" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,376 Posted June 17, 2020 From an unrelated case, same DA... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 17, 2020 On 6/15/2020 at 4:30 PM, Hardcore troubadour said: My instincts are blinking red about this guy. He was fighting more than a DUI charge. I can feel it. This guy new Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted June 17, 2020 43 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Venue change all but assured. Acquittal, world burns. Buy ammo. That's the problem, because of this whirlwind they overcharge, no way to convict because the charge is absurd, then there will be riots. Rinse and Repeat Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: That's the problem, because of this whirlwind they overcharge, no way to convict because the charge is absurd, then there will be riots. They are incapable of running things for themselves. They prove it time and again, globally. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted June 17, 2020 George Floyd, everyone gets it. Maybe not the Murder 2 charge itself, but everyone agrees on negligence. But this is insane. Man was drunk, passed out in a car in a Wendy's drive thru. Police called and they wake him up, and, like they do all DUI cases determine he was drunk behind a wheel and simply ask him to put his hands behind his back as he was going in for a DWI. Dude flips OUT, wrestles with cops, grabs tasers, crazy stuff. JFC. Murder charge? Forget race or anything, just simple common sense. This is bizzaro world. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 17, 2020 You bought the house. Now you have to live in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 17, 2020 They should all walk off the job in every piece of sh!t democrat run city. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
drobeski 3,061 Posted June 17, 2020 https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/attorney-says-da-rushed-charge-officers-involved-tasing-college-students/Y3RHMIZ2ZNCC7HA723UGEKQS54/ Same DA charged cops previously claiming the taser is a deadly weapon. Idiot Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted June 17, 2020 Just now, drobeski said: https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/atlanta/attorney-says-da-rushed-charge-officers-involved-tasing-college-students/Y3RHMIZ2ZNCC7HA723UGEKQS54/ Same DA charged cops previously claiming the taser is a deadly weapon. Idiot Oof. You can’t make this shitt up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted June 17, 2020 47 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: You bought the house. Now you have to live in it. For better or for worse this is what will happen. We're in uncharted waters people, at least in our lifetime. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 17, 2020 25 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: This should be all over the news and internet. Trump should do a state of the union address just for this video. Peenie and newbie would be proud of the drunken driver black guy who fought for his rights to hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted June 17, 2020 I don't know how a member of law enforcement could ever vote Democrat again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted June 17, 2020 8 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: This should be all over the news and internet. Trump should do a state of the union address just for this video. All the attorney for the defendant(s) in this case has to do is play that video. Doesn't have to say a word, no witnesses, no testimony, no nothing. Play the video of Rayshard Brooks attempted arrest and this one. This Atlanta DA has lost his focking mind. It will never stand. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,618 Posted June 17, 2020 It’s the Duke rape case/hoax all over again. A DA with issues and a tight re-election campaign overcharges a racially charged case to save his ass. Didn’t work then, won’t work now. And the riots. There will be riots. They’ll be begging for the regular Army to save them this time, forget the national guard. The cops won’t be there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,480 Posted June 17, 2020 Atlanta is about to burn to the ground. https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffLatham7/status/1273370759054925825 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted June 17, 2020 The pendulum is going to swing back mighty hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites