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Pentagon to release reports on UFOs including "Recovered Off-World Vehicles Not Made On This Earth."

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https://www.foxnews.com/science/pentagon-ufo-unit-spotlight-vehicles-earth

After decades of denial the government has been little by little admitting that UFOs exist. Why now and what are they?

A - False flag operation to fake an alien invasion to create a one world government? 

B - To hide the fact that we or another country has this technology? Some are man made created through reverse technology from recovered UFOs?

C - They are actually from another world or dimension and have become a true threat?

D - They are in contact with them and are preparing us for disclosure?

It's crazy that this is not bigger news. Yes they have programmed us not to believe in them and even with these admissions people can't get past the decades of "only wackos believe in this stuff" propaganda. 10,000 people saw the low flying slow moving Phoenix Lights vehicle. Now they are thinking that these huge triangle shaped vehicles are mapping the areas that they fly over. Why? 

Here's the article.

 

A long-hidden UFO investigative unit within the Pentagon will make some of its findings public, according to a New York Times report.

The unit, which is now part of the Office of Naval Intelligence, has spent over a decade discussing mysterious events in classified briefings, according to the news outlet. A government contractor told the Times that he gave a classified briefing to the Department of Defense in March, describing retrievals from “off-world vehicles not made on this Earth."

The Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon Task Force at the Office of Naval Intelligence was described in a Senate Intelligence Committee report last month. The unit standardizes “collection and reporting on unidentified aerial phenomenon, any links they have to adversarial foreign governments, and the threat they pose to U.S. military assets and installations,” the report said.

“However, the Committee remains concerned that there is no unified, comprehensive process within the Federal Government for collecting and analyzing intelligence on unidentified aerial phenomena, despite the potential threat,” it added. “The Committee understands that the relevant intelligence may be sensitive; nevertheless, the Committee finds that the information sharing and coordination across the Intelligence Community has been inconsistent, and this issue has lacked attention from senior leaders.”

In the report, the Senate Intelligence Committee directs the Director of National Intelligence, in consultation with the Secretary of Defense, to submit a report to the congressional intelligence and armed services committees on unidentified aerial phenomena (or “anomalous aerial vehicles”). The report must include “observed airborne objects that have not been identified.”

The Committee says that the report should be submitted within 180 days of the enactment of the Intelligence Authorization Act for fiscal 2021. The bill was introduced on June 8, 2020.

The New York Times reports that a small group of government officials and scientists believe that objects of “undetermined origin” have crashed to Earth and been retrieved, including former Sen. Harry Reid. While some have been found to be man-made materials, there are question marks over others.

The publication cites Eric W. Davis, an astrophysicist who worked as a subcontractor and a consultant for the Pentagon UFO program. Davis, who now works for defense contractor Aerospace Corporation, said he also gave briefings on the recovery of unexplained objects to staff members of the Senate Armed Services Committee and the Senate Intelligence Committee, on Oct. 21 and Oct. 23, 2019, respectively, the Times added.

“As we have said previously, the Department of Defense and all of the military departments take any incursions by unauthorized aircraft into our training ranges or designated airspace very seriously, and examine each report,” a spokesperson for the Department of Defense told Fox News, via email.  “This includes examinations of incursions that are initially reported as ‘unidentified aerial phenomena’ (UAP) when the observer cannot immediately identify what he or she is observing.”

The Department of Defense, she explained, does not discuss publicly the details of either the observations or the examination of reported incursions into its training ranges or designated airspace, including incursions initially designated as UAP.

“Regarding the task force mentioned in the article, I can say that the department is creating a task force to gain knowledge and insight into the nature and origins of UAPs, as well as their operations, capabilities, performance, and/or signatures,” she added. “The mission of the task force will be to detect, analyze, catalog, consolidate, and exploit non-traditional aerospace vehicles/UAPs posing an operational threat to U.S. national security and avoid strategic surprise.”

Fox News has also reached out to Aerospace Corporation with a request for comment on this story.

In speaking with the New York Times, Reid said he believes the government and the private sector may have retrieved materials from unidentified objects. “After looking into this, I came to the conclusion that there were reports — some were substantive, some not so substantive — that there were actual materials that the government and the private sector had in their possession,” Reid said in the interview.

Reid's comments are the latest from the former lawmaker. In June 2019, he told Nevada's KNPR that he wished lawmakers would hold public hearings into what the military knows.

"They would be surprised how the American public would accept it," Reid said during the wide-ranging interview. "People from their individual states would accept it."

The former Nevada senator has also tweeted multiple times about the topic, including in April, when he said he was happy the Pentagon released three videos of "unidentified aerial phenomena", adding the "American people deserve to be informed."

 

 

 

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This is so stupid.

Why are we getting a government report telling us the government may or may not have alien artifacts. The article quite literally says the government "believes" the government MAY have recovered something. If they actually had something, they'd just show us.  Then as you get deeper, Reid says maybe they recovered stuff from unidentified objects (which doesn't mean aliens at all, could be from spy planes or satellites).

This article reads like a bait-and-switch tactic a used car salesman would write.  They have nothing.

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10 minutes ago, riversco said:

This is so stupid.

Why are we getting a government report telling us the government may or may not have alien artifacts. The article quite literally says the government "believes" the government MAY have recovered something. If they actually had something, they'd just show us.  Then as you get deeper, Reid says maybe they recovered stuff from unidentified objects (which doesn't mean aliens at all, could be from spy planes or satellites).

 

Senator Marco Rubio, the Florida Republican who is the acting chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, told a CBS affiliate in Miami this month that he was primarily concerned about reports of unidentified aircraft over American military bases — and that it was in the government’s interest to find out who was responsible.

 

He expressed concerns that China or Russia or some other adversary had made “some technological leap” that “allows them to conduct this sort of activity.”

Mr. Rubio said some of the unidentified aerial vehicles over U.S. bases possibly exhibited technologies not in the American arsenal. But he also noted: “Maybe there is a completely, sort of, boring explanation for it. But we need to find out.”

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Sounds to me like a stealth marketing campaign for the new Bronco.  <_<

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There is plenty of life out there that we don't know about. To think that we are the only living "intelligent" beings in the universe with space traveling capabilities is narcissistic.

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1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

There is plenty of life out there that we don't know about. To think that we are the only living "intelligent" beings in the universe with space traveling capabilities is narcissistic.

Look, the Milky Way is 200,000 light years across.  Let's say a lifeform evolved that can easily travel between stars.  Maybe it takes them 5 million years to go from one end of the galaxy to the other.  Then maybe another 15 million years to spread out and fill in the entire galaxy.  In 20 million years, they would have cataloged, colonized, and controlled every single star system in the galaxy.  20 million years is a blink of a cosmic eye.  

That means there is like a 99.999% chance that, when we peer into the galaxy and observe star systems, we will see either (1) absolutely no evidence of alien life anywhere in the galaxy or (2) a galaxy teeming with alien life in EVERY star system.  There is no in-between unless we just happen to be in that 20 million year window which is almost impossible statistically.  

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5 minutes ago, riversco said:

Look, the Milky Way is 200,000 light years across.  Let's say a lifeform evolved that can easily travel between stars.  Maybe it takes them 5 million years to go from one end of the galaxy to the other.  Then maybe another 15 million years to spread out and fill in the entire galaxy.  In 20 million years, they would have cataloged, colonized, and controlled every single star system in the galaxy.  20 million years is a blink of a cosmic eye.  

That means there is like a 99.999% chance that, when we peer into the galaxy and observe star systems, we will see either (1) absolutely no evidence of alien life anywhere in the galaxy or (2) a galaxy teeming with alien life in EVERY star system.  There is no in-between unless we just happen to be in that 20 million year window which is almost impossible statistically.  

Your "statistics" are based upon an extremely limited view of the universe. None of it need to be applied to other life forms out there in the galaxies. We are not talking about human minds and the desire to conquer necessarily. Especially if some life force has the capabilities to not leave their "fingerprints" all over the pkace.

You are taking the Star Trek point of view over the Dr. Who look at things. Oh hell, even Star Trek Next Generation has the 'Q' species.

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3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Your "statistics" are based upon an extremely limited view of the universe. None of it need to be applied to other life forms out there in the galaxies. We are not talking about human minds and the desire to conquer necessarily. Especially if some life force has the capabilities to not leave their "fingerprints" all over the pkace.

You are taking the Star Trek point of view over the Dr. Who look at things. Oh hell, even Star Trek Next Generation has the 'Q' species.

It is a requirement for any spacefaring species to control the entire galaxy.  The alternative is that some other alien life arises and becomes a great threat to their existence.  For security purposes, every single star system must be controlled tightly.  The fact we don't see alien life everywhere makes it extremely likely we are alone in the galaxy.

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6 minutes ago, riversco said:

It is a requirement for any spacefaring species to control the entire galaxy.  The alternative is that some other alien life arises and becomes a great threat to their existence.  For security purposes, every single star system must be controlled tightly.  The fact we don't see alien life everywhere makes it extremely likely we are alone in the galaxy.

We exist, and yet we don't control anything in the galaxy. Crap, we can't even get along on this planet.

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Yea this won’t happen. It will be a nothing burger with vague language and clickbait headlines. Expect a lot of “we believe” “could have been” “possible” type stuff. If aliens that had the capability of Interstelllar travel visited us, everyone would know. They would not need to be furtive or secretive about it.

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Fake news boys. This is a distraction. Focus.  

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1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

We exist, and yet we don't control anything in the galaxy. Crap, we can't even get along on this planet.

Yeah but we KNOW that our species actually IS in that 20 million year window.  The odds some OTHER species also happens to be in that window at the same time is ridiculously low.  Things like Star Trek where there are like 100 species and ALL of them are in that window is just dumb.

99.999% of the time if you have 2 advanced alien species in the same galaxy, one of them will have colonized the entire galaxy already.

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The problem with this debate is that it is like multiplying infinity by zero.  Mathematically it is undefined, and any infinitesimally small change makes a huge difference to the result. 

I happen to think there is probably some form of life on other planets, primarily basic forms.

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7 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The problem with this debate is that it is like multiplying infinity by zero.  Mathematically it is undefined, and any infinitesimally small change makes a huge difference to the result. 

I happen to think there is probably some form of life on other planets, primarily basic forms.

Even finding plants or trees on another planet would be absolutely huge. Anything alive at all. Always these desolate landscapes with absolutely nothing. It’s spooky to think it’s possible that at one point billions of years ago alien life could have sent a probe here and seen nothing but a desolate landscape too. Makes my brain explode trying to comprehend it! 

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7 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

Even finding plants or trees on another planet would be absolutely huge. Anything alive at all. Always these desolate landscapes with absolutely nothing. It’s spooky to think it’s possible that at one point billions of years ago alien life could have sent a probe here and seen nothing but a desolate landscape too. Makes my brain explode trying to comprehend it! 

Plants or trees are not what I mean by "basic life."  More like a single cell.

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Hell. They already built the pyramids. I fully expect them to check in from time.

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2 hours ago, riversco said:

Yeah but we KNOW that our species actually IS in that 20 million year window.  The odds some OTHER species also happens to be in that window at the same time is ridiculously low.  Things like Star Trek where there are like 100 species and ALL of them are in that window is just dumb.

99.999% of the time if you have 2 advanced alien species in the same galaxy, one of them will have colonized the entire galaxy already.

How does this 20M year window apply to the whole of the universe? I think you are limiting your thoughts to Earth and this one piece of one galaxy. No one on this planet even has the capability to understand what could possibly be out there. Even on Earth, the greatest country in the world is collapsing under the liberal desire for power. We can't even figure that out for God's sake.

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Hubble reveals an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the universe or so, but this number is likely to increase to about 200 billion as telescope technology in space improves, Livio told Space.com.

Each galaxy with an average of 100 billion stars.

We are simply one of millions upon millions of civilizations. To think we are it is pure comedy.  I remember the days when people thought the sun was the only star with planets around it.That was comedy back then. I did not. I logically looked at it and said every star likely has planets around it. 

Now there is a very good chance that we are the most focked up civilization in the universe. We are certainly making a claim to it.

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12 minutes ago, LOD01 said:

Hubble reveals an estimated 100 billion galaxies in the universe or so, but this number is likely to increase to about 200 billion as telescope technology in space improves, Livio told Space.com.

Each galaxy with an average of 100 billion stars.

We are simply one of millions upon millions of civilizations. To think we are it is pure comedy.  I remember the days when people thought the sun was the only star with planets around it.That was comedy back then. I did not. I logically looked at it and said every star likely has planets around it. 

Now there is a very good chance that we are the most focked up civilization in the universe. We are certainly making a claim to it.

Yep.

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3 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

How does this 20M year window apply to the whole of the universe?

We currently do not have the technology to see planets in other galaxies. 

Andromeda is like 2.5 million light years away.  Some of the furthest galaxies are around 32 billion light years away.  If faster than light travel is possible, then some alien life form is going to explore and control all of these galaxies pretty quickly.  If it is not possible, then we might never hear from them.

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Nothing can go faster than the speed of light. Nothing. The amount of energy required to even entertain it would be more than all the energy in the entire universe. Nevermind slowing the fvck down.

If there is something out there, they ain't using linear travel. They are using laws of physics we could not possibly understand on any level and maybe even creating their own laws. If they figured that out we are of no value to them. Zero.

During the 90's I was stationed on the Lincoln carrier. I became good friends with an S-2 intel guy. I asked him if pilots ever reported UFO's just being stupid for fun. He said yes. They do report things they can't explain. Similar to that tic tac incident. Doesn't means it's aliens. Just that we do not know just like we do not know about a lot of things like how our own brains work or how to stop a god damn Chinese virus. 

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Maybe we can deploy our multitudes of woke intersectional lemmings to shame them into turning over all their secrets and become our slaves.

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14 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Maybe we can deploy our multitudes of woke intersectional lemmings to shame them into turning over all their secrets and become our slaves.

Or maybe they are making sure our form of "Friendship" stays in our solar system. 

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They are gonna present particles of a comet and say that life began here on earth from it and thus it is an 'off world vehicle' Which kinda fits the definition.

:D 

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3 minutes ago, LOD01 said:

They are gonna present particles of a comet and say that life began here on earth from it and thus it is an 'off world vehicle' Which kinda fits the definition.

:D 

That sounds about right.

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13 hours ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

Nothing can go faster than the speed of light. Nothing. The amount of energy required to even entertain it would be more than all the energy in the entire universe. Nevermind slowing the fvck down.

If there is something out there, they ain't using linear travel. They are using laws of physics we could not possibly understand on any level and maybe even creating their own laws. If they figured that out we are of no value to them. Zero.

During the 90's I was stationed on the Lincoln carrier. I became good friends with an S-2 intel guy. I asked him if pilots ever reported UFO's just being stupid for fun. He said yes. They do report things they can't explain. Similar to that tic tac incident. Doesn't means it's aliens. Just that we do not know just like we do not know about a lot of things like how our own brains work or how to stop a god damn Chinese virus. 

On top of that, if another species could get here, we are not gonna see the ship they are in. it's gonna be completely invisible. Then they are gonna see some youtube videos of Biden, mad maxine, the creature from chicago and nancy pelosi and turn right around. If we are lucky they won't just wipe us off the planet.

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3 minutes ago, LOD01 said:

On top of that, if another species could get here, we are not gonna see the ship they are in. it's gonna be completely invisible. Then they are gonna see some youtube videos of Biden, mad maxine, the creature from chicago and nancy pelosi and turn right around. If we are lucky they won't just wipe us off the planet.

Why would they bother? They know we will do it to on our own. Do you shoot a man with a gun in his mouth? If they are not from here, I would guess they aren't from another star system. Inter-dimensional would make more sense to me. 

If string theory is correct, they say the other universes are on top of us. Not above us, but basically sharing the same space in another dimension. Say your world is dying, it's a shorter trip to break into another dimension that shares your world than it would be to travel to another star. Just food for thought. 

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1 minute ago, LOD01 said:

On top of that, if another species could get here, we are not gonna see the ship they are in. it's gonna be completely invisible. Then they are gonna see some youtube videos of Biden, mad maxine, the creature from chicago and nancy pelosi and turn right around. If we are lucky they won't just wipe us off the planet.

That tic tac incident. It wasn't just one, it was like a dozen of them moving at speeds that would turn a person into liquid. I honestly don't even want to know. I will never comprehend it. 

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43 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Maybe we can deploy our multitudes of woke intersectional lemmings to shame them into turning over all their secrets and become our slaves.

Great. Then we will have aliens demanding reparations in a few hundred years. 

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7 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said:

That tic tac incident. It wasn't just one, it was like a dozen of them moving at speeds that would turn a person into liquid. I honestly don't even want to know. I will never comprehend it. 

It was hovering over a bigger ship that was submerging into the water. The tic tac could be a drone used to make us chase it and leave the real ship alone. And it worked. 

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16 minutes ago, The Elevator Killer said:

Why would they bother? They know we will do it to on our own. Do you shoot a man with a gun in his mouth? If they are not from here, I would guess they aren't from another star system. Inter-dimensional would make more sense to me. 

If string theory is correct, they say the other universes are on top of us. Not above us, but basically sharing the same space in another dimension. Say your world is dying, it's a shorter trip to break into another dimension that shares your world than it would be to travel to another star. Just food for thought. 

Was that a star trek episode. If not, it should have been. Kirk could have saved the universe the way Trump is saving Portland.

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As long as there are no plans for an intergalactic highway to go through where Earth is, I'm all good.

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Just now, Utilit99 said:

As long as there are no plans for an intergalactic highway to go through where Earth is, I'm all good.

It would probably be more like going to the zoo for them. 

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