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47 minutes ago, BiffTannen said:

We do not apologize. 

Apologize? I dunno. Some say it was a necessary evil to end WWII, others say no we did it just to show we could. I don’t know the truth, it’s lost in history and the fog of war.

But we did drop two atomic bombs on large cities densely populated with civilians. Think about that. Never done before or since. (There’s been plenty of carpetbombing though).

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Obama carpet bombed Libya in cruise missiles, killing plenty of civilians including women and children.  And Libya never attacked us. In fact Gaddafi was cooperating with our terrorism efforts and even disarmed during the Bush years.  That history is in the process of being whitewashed.

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Did it occur to them not to sneak attack Pearl Harbor? Would have saved them a lot of grief no?

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15 minutes ago, tanatastic said:

Did it occur to them not to sneak attack Pearl Harbor? Would have saved them a lot of grief no?

I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve

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you have been to a casino lately? we have more of them than ever.

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If we hadn't of dropped the bombs on Japan, I wonder if the Russians would have thought that we would be too weak to use them? Maybe, just maybe we avoided WWIII because we used them. Just a thought. 

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2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Apologize? I dunno. Some say it was a necessary evil to end WWII, others say no we did it just to show we could. I don’t know the truth, it’s lost in history and the fog of war.

But we did drop two atomic bombs on large cities densely populated with civilians. Think about that. Never done before or since. (There’s been plenty of carpetbombing though).

You don't have worms you are a worm.

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2 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Apologize? I dunno. Some say it was a necessary evil to end WWII, others say no we did it just to show we could. I don’t know the truth, it’s lost in history and the fog of war.

But we did drop two atomic bombs on large cities densely populated with civilians. Think about that. Never done before or since. (There’s been plenty of carpetbombing though).

From what I've heard it was something of a machiavellian numbers game.  From the above link regarding an invasion of Japan:

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Wright and Shockley estimated the invading Allies would suffer between 1.7 and 4 million casualties in such a scenario, of whom between 400,000 and 800,000 would be dead, while Japanese fatalities would have been around 5 to 10 million.

 

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12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

From what I've heard it was something of a machiavellian numbers game.  From the above link regarding an invasion of Japan:

 

Yes that’s what I’ve heard too. Others say no Japan was pretty much already willing to surrender but that seems doubtful.

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6 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Apologize? I dunno. Some say it was a necessary evil to end WWII, others say no we did it just to show we could. I don’t know the truth, it’s lost in history and the fog of war.

But we did drop two atomic bombs on large cities densely populated with civilians. Think about that. Never done before or since. (There’s been plenty of carpetbombing though).

We could have dropped one on Tokyo if killing people was the only goal. You have to love after what Japan did prior to WW2 like the rape of Nanking, and all the atrocities they committed during it, too many to mention, some Americans have been convinced we were the bad guys. 

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We could have dropped one on Tokyo if killing people was the only goal. You have to love after what Japan did prior to WW2 like the rape of Nanking, and all the atrocities they committed during it, too many to mention, some Americans have been convinced we were the bad guys. 

I don't think we are the bad guys. But some days I'm wondering if we fought on the right side.

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4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

We could have dropped one on Tokyo if killing people was the only goal. You have to love after what Japan did prior to WW2 like the rape of Nanking, and all the atrocities they committed during it, too many to mention, some Americans have been convinced we were the bad guys. 

Ghey.

Pearl Harbor was bad, sure. Think we lost 3,000? Versus we nuke the fock out of you.

I dunno, something to be said for making a point but we’re 70 years on now and many could do the same to us. I wouldn’t like it, would you?

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18 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Ghey.

Pearl Harbor was bad, sure. Think we lost 3,000? Versus we nuke the fock out of you.

I dunno, something to be said for making a point but we’re 70 years on now and many could do the same to us. I wouldn’t like it, would you?

7k at Iwo Jima, 13k at Okinawa. Want me to keep going? You throw out 3k in response. How’s about you read a little? Go ahead and read about Okinawa and what was going on with Japanese citizens there. Spoiler alert: the Americans weren’t the ones torturing and killing them. 

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11 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Apologize? I dunno. Some say it was a necessary evil to end WWII, others say no we did it just to show we could. I don’t know the truth, it’s lost in history and the fog of war.

But we did drop two atomic bombs on large cities densely populated with civilians. Think about that. Never done before or since. (There’s been plenty of carpetbombing though).

I had a Japanese guy once complain that we had never apologized.

I told him fock that. You started sh!t, then refused to quit when you were beaten. We ended sh!t.

And you nips have been good little children ever since we wrote you a constitution and occupied for a couple decades.

He was not amused. Fock him.

 

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50 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Ghey.

Pearl Harbor was bad, sure. Think we lost 3,000? Versus we nuke the fock out of you.

I dunno, something to be said for making a point but we’re 70 years on now and many could do the same to us. I wouldn’t like it, would you?

The reason we nuked them was not revenge. It was to save the lives that mattered. American ones.

Look up how many we lost on Okinawa.

the planned invasion of the Japanese home islands would have cost casualties in the hundreds of thousands.

The nukes, combined with the soviets crushing their army in Manchuria, finally got them to fold.

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1 hour ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

The reason we nuked them was not revenge. It was to save the lives that mattered. American ones.

Look up how many we lost on Okinawa.

the planned invasion of the Japanese home islands would have cost casualties in the hundreds of thousands.

The nukes, combined with the soviets crushing their army in Manchuria, finally got them to fold.

I read that when Hirohito was on his way to announce the surrender that the Japanese military brass attempted to assassinate him. 

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