Nomad99 401 Posted October 16, 2020 How much negative impact will Bell have on CEH's numbers? I've already lost DAK...picked up cousins(I have Theilen). My team is deep due to trades..1/2 ppr 10 teamer. Start 3wr,2 rb, 1te, 1wr/te flex,1 wr/rb flex. Team: wr-Hopkins, Theilen, OBJ, Diggs, Aiyuk, M.Williams, Diontae Johnson rb- CEH, Mixon, Gaskin, Gibson, Edmonds With the Bell situation, does it make sense to shop CEH now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidSeaCows 99 Posted October 16, 2020 I don't know why KC picked up Bell. Maybe Reid likes challenges? I think by the time Bell learns the playbook enough to get on the field, his attitude will make Reid cut him again. I'm sure CEH's lack of goal line success in week one is the entire driving force behind this move. Reid needs a GL back to sell his other options in his GL offense. Watching Mahomes run in 2 TD's the last 2 weeks must give Reid nightmares after that dislocated Knee Cap last year. Still, that's a lot of $$$ to give a disposable RB to just run in the ball from the 1 yard line. SO any attitude at all from Bell and he's back in the FA market. JMHO Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 401 Posted October 16, 2020 Have a guy in my league that has Kamara, Drake, Mostert, Moss Woods, Schuster, Gallup, Jefferson, Galladay, Harry...2-3 record. Would a proposed trade of CEH & either Aiyuk or Diontae Johnson for Drake & Galloday benefit me or should I just stand pat with CEH? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bgard72 10 Posted October 16, 2020 I'm in the minority that think it might not hurt CEH that much. Clyde Edwards-Helaire (66% snap rate, 108 opportunities) Darrel Williams (27%, 22) I think it hurts Darrel Williams the most...his usage percentage will drop to next to none. CEH though...will drop a bit, but I don't think a whole lot. Might in fact help CEH a bit...by keeping drives going by converting on 3rd downs with Bell as a passing option. Maybe the usage goes to Clyde Edwards-Helaire (56% snap rate) Le'Veon Bell (42% snap rate) That's the current breakup of usage of Green Bay's backs (Jones and Williams). And Jones isn't at all hurt by this. Even it gets switched around to Bell getting the 56%.....CEH will still be valuable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Nomad99 said: Have a guy in my league that has Kamara, Drake, Masterton, Moss Woods, Schuster, Gallup, Jefferson, Galladay, Harry...2-3 record. Would a proposed trade of CEH & either Aiyuk or Diontae Johnson for Drake & Galloday benefit me or should I just stand pat with CEH? I think so Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted October 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, bgard72 said: I'm in the minority that think it might not hurt CEH that much. Clyde Edwards-Helaire (66% snap rate, 108 opportunities) Darrel Williams (27%, 22) I think it hurts Darrel Williams the most...his usage percentage will drop to next to none. CEH though...will drop a bit, but I don't think a whole lot. Might in fact help CEH a bit...by keeping drives going by converting on 3rd downs with Bell as a passing option. Maybe the usage goes to Clyde Edwards-Helaire (56% snap rate) Le'Veon Bell (42% snap rate) That's the current breakup of usage of Green Bay's backs (Jones and Williams). And Jones isn't at all hurt by this. Even it gets switched around to Bell getting the 56%.....CEH will still be valuable. I disagree, Bell is better then Willams , and will be much more involved then Williams is or was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bgard72 10 Posted October 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, weepaws said: I disagree, Bell is better then Willams , and will be much more involved then Williams is or was. Yes, as I said, he should be able to take more snaps than Williams has been taking. But the reports of Bell looking slow practices before the season and just not hitting the holes like he used to coupled with his recent hamstring injury and his number of touches are just short of LeSean McCoy for the most in active RB's...don't bode well for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
show me the murray 49 Posted October 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Nomad99 said: How much negative impact will Bell have on CEH's numbers? I've already lost DAK...picked up cousins(I have Theilen). My team is deep due to trades..1/2 ppr 10 teamer. Start 3wr,2 rb, 1te, 1wr/te flex,1 wr/rb flex. Team: wr-Hopkins, Theilen, OBJ, Diggs, Aiyuk, M.Williams, Diontae Johnson rb- CEH, Mixon, Gaskin, Gibson, Edmonds With the Bell situation, does it make sense to shop CEH now? It makes sense to shop CEH now, but I’m not sure you’ll get market value for him. Maybe you could get a Chubb, Ekeler type if you’re confident of a playoff push later in the season, those guys could put you over the edge. Otherwise you’re fine at WR and it’s probably wiser to hold and see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nomad99 401 Posted October 16, 2020 13 minutes ago, show me the murray said: It makes sense to shop CEH now, but I’m not sure you’ll get market value for him. Maybe you could get a Chubb, Ekeler type if you’re confident of a playoff push later in the season, those guys could put you over the edge. Otherwise you’re fine at WR and it’s probably wiser to hold and see what happens. Thinking about offering CEH & Aiyuk for Drake & Galloday.....and then trying to pick up Stafford. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
show me the murray 49 Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Nomad99 said: Thinking about offering CEH & Aiyuk for Drake & Galloday.....and then trying to pick up Stafford. You’re upgrading purely based on the fact Golladay > Aiyuk, but if you think Drake is going to be an upgrade on CEH then you might be mistaken. In fact, Drake and Edmonds’ split might be the best comp right now for what to expect from CEH/Bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidSeaCows 99 Posted October 16, 2020 I would shop CEH if he goes off this week vs BUFF. Bell's carries will be minimum dur to learning blizt pickups/playbook. If you shop him this week other owners will know it's out of desperation and fear. Most will offer you .80 on the $1.00 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted October 16, 2020 2 hours ago, bgard72 said: Yes, as I said, he should be able to take more snaps than Williams has been taking. But the reports of Bell looking slow practices before the season and just not hitting the holes like he used to coupled with his recent hamstring injury and his number of touches are just short of LeSean McCoy for the most in active RB's...don't bode well for him. Yes you did, but I think Bell is better then Williams. So that would mean , I expect more production from Bell , so I think this move for Bell bodes well for him. You also said this move might not hurt CEH that much, and I disagree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bgard72 10 Posted October 16, 2020 Yes, of course it bodes well for Bell as far as beating out Darryl Williams. I never argued that one...in fact, said Darryl's snap rate would be next to nothing. As far as CEH goes...I don't think bell gets that much more than 33% of snaps. Maybe up to the 42% mark, like Williams gets in Green Bay. And that's if Bell is healthy and looks good...a big if with his performance this year and the miles he's put on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted October 16, 2020 FF goes, I think a CEH owner is going to be frustrated. CEH was drafted in the first round, rb1, he already has fallen short of his adp, and now he has true competition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolves111 69 Posted October 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, weepaws said: FF goes, I think a CEH owner is going to be frustrated. CEH was drafted in the first round, rb1, he already has fallen short of his adp, and now he has true competition. Sadly I have to agree. I have him and turned down Chubb for him a few weeks ago before he got hurt. If he were healthy now I couldn't get that deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Upsman89 15 Posted October 17, 2020 Bell went from the worst off teams to one of the best off teams as soon as he learns the playbook he will cut into CEH touches quite a bit . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites