RLLD 3,455 Posted October 20, 2020 Quote The Trump administration will sue Google on Tuesday in what is the largest antitrust case against a tech company in more than two decades. Of course.....Trump since this comes from CNN.... but I see this as a positive. The big tech companies are more influential than MSM right now, and are clearly tilted toward leftist ideology. They need to be fair. 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,380 Posted October 20, 2020 It's a start 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, Cdub100 said: It's a start Yes it looks like they will be going after Twitter and Facebook soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, riversco said: Yes it looks like they will be going after Twitter and Facebook soon. We can only hope. It is important to note that the inclination of media and these companies to become the political arm of Democrats is rather divisive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 20, 2020 I’m torn. On the one hand, I think social media companies are making a mistake when they selectively and I consistently enforce their terms of use. On the other hand, it’s sort of hilarious to watch Republicans root for the government to monitor the business practices of private businesses. Isn’t the almighty Free Market supposed to produce a non partisan competitor to Facebook or Twitter? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fandandy 3,311 Posted October 20, 2020 So, let me guess. The only real world change will be chants of Lock them up at Trump rallies in reference to Google. Ain't nothing consequential going to happen. eta: consequential Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted October 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m torn. On the one hand, I think social media companies are making a mistake when they selectively and I consistently enforce their terms of use. On the other hand, it’s sort of hilarious to watch Republicans root for the government to monitor the business practices of private businesses. Isn’t the almighty Free Market supposed to produce a non partisan competitor to Facebook or Twitter? You are confusing limited government with anarchism. Republicans believe in limited government and that has always included being a watchdog on private enterprise. Your comment makes you sound completely ignorant of US politics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted October 20, 2020 other than the board game, I thought Monopoly was a big no no in 'Merica? I remember the Microsoft lawsuit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,584 Posted October 20, 2020 21 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m torn. On the one hand, I think social media companies are making a mistake when they selectively and I consistently enforce their terms of use. On the other hand, it’s sort of hilarious to watch Republicans root for the government to monitor the business practices of private businesses. Isn’t the almighty Free Market supposed to produce a non partisan competitor to Facebook or Twitter? I am not sure what you are confused by. Open and free markets are good. They are not almighty though. They exist only to the extent the goverment allows and don't have monopolies using strong arm tactics to squash competition. It is Google's tactics which eliminates competition which is troubling because it is anti-free market. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted October 20, 2020 6 minutes ago, jonmx said: I am not sure what you are confused by. Open and free markets are good. They are not almighty though. They exist only to the extent the goverment allows and don't have monopolies using strong arm tactics to squash competition. It is Google's tactics which eliminates competition which is troubling because it is anti-free market. Don't feed the idiot. It's the Right that saves the free market from monopolies. The left loves them. Antitrust is when there cannot possibly be competition, mostly due to proprietary technology. Google is about to be broken up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, jonmx said: I am not sure what you are confused by. It’s just a little ironic to see the Dems argue that private businesses should do what they want and Reps argue that the feds should step in to police social media. Plenty of hypocrisy to go around on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 839 Posted October 20, 2020 39 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m torn. On the one hand, I think social media companies are making a mistake when they selectively and I consistently enforce their terms of use. On the other hand, it’s sort of hilarious to watch Republicans root for the government to monitor the business practices of private businesses. Isn’t the almighty Free Market supposed to produce a non partisan competitor to Facebook or Twitter? Free market is a myth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, MDC said: It’s just a little ironic to see the Dems argue that private businesses should do what they want and Reps argue that the feds should step in to police social media. Plenty of hypocrisy to go around on this one. Also ironic that despite their efforts the biggest political upset in US history happened. They failed. If anything it created the opposite effect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 20, 2020 Just now, FlyinHeadlock said: Also ironic that despite their efforts the biggest political upset in US history happened. They failed. If anything it created the opposite effect. And I once scored 4 touchdowns in a single game at Polk High. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, MDC said: And I once scored 4 touchdowns in a single game at Polk High. I hear you but the GOP recruiting efforts in swing states has improved drastically in the past 4 years. Whatever these companies are doing it's not working. Those numbers should be declining. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Also ironic that despite their efforts the biggest political upset in US history happened. They failed. If anything it created the opposite effect. I think there is merit to this. Firstly I think MSM was stunned that they could not destroy Trump, as hard as they tried, and I think that was more than a little scary to them. Secondly, I think no one truly understood the wider nation and how it perceived the way Democrats were behaving, and those people rose up when it counted to oppose liberal efforts to create a socialist-focused nation. I think that also was a hard blow to them. They seem to be still using their old tactics to attempt to ensure the political candidate of THEIR choosing wins, but are being a little more careful about it. No more free advertising for Trump, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 20, 2020 11 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: I hear you but the GOP recruiting efforts in swing states has improved drastically in the past 4 years. Whatever these companies are doing it's not working. Those numbers should be declining. Not sure what this has to do with Facebook / Twitter. I think they’re making a mistake by selectively enforcing their terms of use. I wouldn’t be surprised if the feds manage to revoke Section 230 protections from companies that unfairly police their competent on the grounds that they’re now providing an editorial function. Still highly ironical that the GOP now wants the feds to step in and police private businesses. Guess we can retire the idea that an unregulated free market will sort itself out. I wonder where self described libertarian Tucker Swanson stands on this? Just kidding - he’s Trump’s ass boy and we already know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 20, 2020 So, in the big picture of things, what's in it for the individual members of the MSM and these large tech companys to partake in this nationwide destruction of the country they live in? I'll never understand why these people want their bodies to be hosted by dark souls and want to live their lives basted in hatred and lies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: So, in the big picture of things, what's in it for the individual members of the MSM and these large tech companys to partake in this nationwide destruction of the country they live in? I'll never understand why these people want their bodies to be hosted by dark souls and want to live their lives basted in hatred and lies. Purity. To behave in a way that allows them to believe they are morally superior to others. It is how they compete with others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted October 20, 2020 Facebook bought my space and instagram and a host of other competitors. That’s not the free market at work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,584 Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, MDC said: It’s just a little ironic to see the Dems argue that private businesses should do what they want and Reps argue that the feds should step in to police social media. Plenty of hypocrisy to go around on this one. Not when you understand monopolies. In principle neither side supports monopolies. But since Big Tech, (at least the social media giants who are monopolies in their segment by any standard definition of controlling more than 70 percent of the market), are actively aiding the Democrats, it is the Democrats who are the ones deviating from their morals on this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, jonmx said: Not when you understand monopolies. In principle neither side supports monopolies. But since Big Tech, (at least the social media giants who are monopolies in their segment by any standard definition of controlling more than 70 percent of the market), are actively aiding the Democrats, it is the Democrats who are the ones deviating from their morals on this one. Just to make you aware, MDC is the resident troll. He brings nothing. He says Bush and Trump are aligned ideologically. He just says stuff like that. Don’t bother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,583 Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, MDC said: I’m torn. On the one hand, I think social media companies are making a mistake when they selectively and I consistently enforce their terms of use. On the other hand, it’s sort of hilarious to watch Republicans root for the government to monitor the business practices of private businesses. Isn’t the almighty Free Market supposed to produce a non partisan competitor to Facebook or Twitter? you cant say your a platform and then edit what you want on it, that makes you a publisher, and able to be sued for slander Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 20, 2020 3 hours ago, jonmx said: Not when you understand monopolies. In principle neither side supports monopolies. But since Big Tech, (at least the social media giants who are monopolies in their segment by any standard definition of controlling more than 70 percent of the market), are actively aiding the Democrats, it is the Democrats who are the ones deviating from their morals on this one. The GOP has show absolutely zero interest in policing energy, airlines, telecom, pharma etc. But I’m supposed to believe they’re going after Twitter and Facebook because they care about monopolized power. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you cant say your a platform and then edit what you want on it, that makes you a publisher, and able to be sued for slander I actually agree with this. Just noting the hypocrisy of the party of free market economics arguing that social media needs a leash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, MDC said: I actually agree with this. Just noting the hypocrisy of the party of free market economics arguing that social media needs a leash. 4 minutes ago, MDC said: The GOP has show absolutely zero interest in policing energy, airlines, telecom, pharma etc. But I’m supposed to believe they’re going after Twitter and Facebook because they care about monopolized power. I find it mildly amusing that you suddenly have such a firm position on philosophical integrity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, MDC said: I actually agree with this. Just noting the hypocrisy of the party of free market economics arguing that social media needs a leash. They don't need a leash. They simply need to be held accountable for their actions.Not a good take by you. Again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted October 20, 2020 15 minutes ago, MDC said: The GOP has show absolutely zero interest in policing energy, airlines, telecom, pharma etc. But I’m supposed to believe they’re going after Twitter and Facebook because they care about monopolized power. World politics swings between globalist periods and nationalist periods. The most recent global period ended with the election of Donald Trump. Your arguments are really about globalist agendas. Under Trump, the GOP has been working on policing manufacturing via tariffs on foreign nations. I guess you haven't read the news at all and haven't seen Trump's tariff plan. He also got rid of NAFTA. These are all things used to regulate the free market. The free market wants to be globalist and Trump says "NO! We need more national industry for better jobs." Pay attention because you sound like you have no knowledge about what Trump is doing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted October 20, 2020 33 minutes ago, RLLD said: I find it mildly amusing that you suddenly have such a firm position on philosophical integrity. I find it amusing that you toss accusations around but never back them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,636 Posted October 20, 2020 1 hour ago, MDC said: The GOP has show absolutely zero interest in policing energy, airlines, telecom, pharma etc. But I’m supposed to believe they’re going after Twitter and Facebook because they care about monopolized power. Department of energy, EPA, FAA, food and DRUG administration, FCC. Yup, no interest in policing any of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted October 20, 2020 All the tech giants need to be broken up and there needs to be a lot more restrictions on the internet. It's wrong that any 12 year old can access the most soul destroying content on the internet just by doing a quick search. How? Idk, I just know it needs to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco breath 419 Posted October 20, 2020 just as long as i can still watch beastiality . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco breath 419 Posted October 20, 2020 ... on my phone, while in orbit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted October 20, 2020 Wow. Sounds like the shadow banners and demonetizers are about to be shadow banned and demonetized themselves. Interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco breath 419 Posted October 20, 2020 4 minutes ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Wow. Sounds like the shadow banners and demonetizers are about to be shadow banned and demonetized themselves. Interesting. who are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted October 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, taco breath said: who are you? Did you wake up in a Soho doorway. Who the phuck are you? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco breath 419 Posted October 20, 2020 1 minute ago, FlyinHeadlock said: Did you wake up in a Soho doorway. Who the phuck are you? not a noob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted October 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, taco breath said: not a noob. Less posts than me. Sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 1,584 Posted October 20, 2020 2 hours ago, MDC said: The GOP has show absolutely zero interest in policing energy, airlines, telecom, pharma etc. But I’m supposed to believe they’re going after Twitter and Facebook because they care about monopolized power. There are dozens of airlines that do the exact same thing, so pretty terrible example for 99 percent of the routes. Pharma is a problem, but part of the problem is the enormous amount of government regulations which leads to these monopolies on treatments for certain diseases. I have no idea what is wrong with energy except the left wants a war on carbon-based energy. Telecom is probably a bit overpriced, but there is competition. I am not sure how to solve health care and drug pricing, but those others really don't have any impact on basic freedom. Freedom of speech is a fundamental right. When we have monopolies on numerous aspects of social media it becomes a huge problem. This is why the ABA (not a conservative organization) has taken a position for extending first amendment rights across these monopolistic cyber platforms which are effectively our town square in the modern universe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites