posty 2,296 Posted November 16, 2020 Returning from the previous year NAME, YEAR ON BALLOT (2020 vote total, percentage) Curt Schilling, 9th (278, 70.0%) Roger Clemens, 9th (242, 61.0%) Barry Bonds, 9th (241, 60.7%) Omar Vizquel, 4th (209, 52.6%) Scott Rolen, 4th (140, 35.3%) Billy Wagner, 6th (126, 31.7%) Gary Sheffield, 7th (121, 30.5%) Todd Helton, 3rd (116, 29.2%) Manny Ramirez, 5th (112, 28.2%) Jeff Kent, 8th (109, 27.5%) Andruw Jones, 4th (77, 19.4%) Sammy Sosa, 9th (55, 13.9%) Andy Pettitte, 3rd (45, 11.3%) Bobby Abreu, 2nd (22, 5.5%) First-timers to the ballot Mark Buehrle A.J. Burnett Michael Cuddyer Dan Haren LaTroy Hawkins Tim Hudson Torii Hunter Aramis Ramirez Nick Swisher Shane Victorino Barry Zito https://www.mlb.com/news/2021-hall-of-fame-ballot-announced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted November 16, 2020 No "first-timers" this year for sure making the Hall... Could be the year for Schilling, Clemens and Bonds to reach the Hall... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 16, 2020 Shilling, Vizquel, Sheffield , Manny and Pettite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SUXBNME 1,324 Posted November 16, 2020 Bonds = GOAT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,113 Posted November 16, 2020 53 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Shilling, Vizquel, Sheffield , Manny and Pettite. Vizquel, Manny, and Pettite belong in. I think Schilling gets in because of situation. I don't think Sheffield gets in. I think Kent, Rolen, and Helton have better arguments than Sheffield. I think that if the committee votes in Bonds and Clemens. I think that'll bump Pettitte and Sheffield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NEWPOSTERGUY! 266 Posted November 16, 2020 Schilling is too conservative for those focktards to honor ... oh, and that fat bigoted pos Dan LeBatard can go munch a bag of Richards ... fockin' scumbag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted November 16, 2020 Manny, Vizquel, Clemens, Bonds, Sosa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Vizquel, Manny, and Pettite belong in. I think Schilling gets in because of situation. I don't think Sheffield gets in. I think Kent, Rolen, and Helton have better arguments than Sheffield. I think that if the committee votes in Bonds and Clemens. I think that'll bump Pettitte and Sheffield. I can be talked out of Pettite. Hall of very good I’d say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted November 16, 2020 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: Vizquel, Manny, and Pettite belong in. I think Schilling gets in because of situation. I don't think Sheffield gets in. I think Kent, Rolen, and Helton have better arguments than Sheffield. I think that if the committee votes in Bonds and Clemens. I think that'll bump Pettitte and Sheffield. If Pettitte gets in, Clemens and Bonds MUST get in... If they are going to keep Clemens and Bonds out because of suspected steroid use, then Pettitte shouldn't even be able to step into the parking lot at the Hall IMO... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, posty said: If Pettitte gets in, Clemens and Bonds MUST get in... If they are going to keep Clemens and Bonds out because of suspected steroid use, then Pettitte shouldn't even be able to step into the parking lot at the Hall IMO... Still salty about 96 I see. Sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 982 Posted November 16, 2020 My picks: Barry Bonds Roger Clemens Manny Ramirez Omar Vizquel Gary Sheffield Sammy Sosa Curt Schilling Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 16, 2020 I’d really like to see Vizquel get in. Because of the shift, it may be the last time we get a truly great defensive player in , known mostly for his defense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted November 16, 2020 Schilling has the best shot of the top 3. I think the snubbing continues for Bonds and Clemens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drizzay 645 Posted November 17, 2020 Omar and Andruw Jones are the only two deserving. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,574 Posted November 17, 2020 7 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Shilling, Vizquel, Sheffield , Manny and Pettite. how can you be ok with Manny and Pettite but not Bonds, Mcgwire, Clemens, Sosa and Palmeiro? All 7 should be in or none should be in Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: how can you be ok with Manny and Pettite but not Bonds, Mcgwire, Clemens, Sosa and Palmeiro? All 7 should be in or none should be in I think Bonds, Sosa and McGuire and Clemens took roids to a different level and ruined baseball records. Pettite took HGH for a short time. Manny did them at the end. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 982 Posted November 17, 2020 Pettite wasn't HOF level. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, Gepetto said: Pettite wasn't HOF level. Upon reflection I agree. I let my homer out for a minute. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,574 Posted November 17, 2020 5 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I think Bonds, Sosa and McGuire and Clemens took roids to a different level and ruined baseball records. Pettite took HGH for a short time. Manny did them at the end. So you can only cheat to a certain amount? It’s ok that Biden only cheated in Pennsylvania Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Isles 583 Posted November 17, 2020 6 hours ago, edjr said: Michael Cuddyer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 17, 2020 3 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: So you can only cheat to a certain amount? It’s ok that Biden only cheated in Pennsylvania Yes, I think there are different levels to it. I’ll forgive a guy trying to keep up with the Jones’. To me the Jones are the bigger problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
patweisers44 697 Posted November 17, 2020 Ozzie Focking Smith got in on the first ballot. Omar Vizquel deserves to be in. Schilling, Clemens, Bonds also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted November 17, 2020 4 hours ago, Mike Isles said: Can't believe no one has signed him in 5 years. Outrageous Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted November 17, 2020 12 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: how can you be ok with Manny and Pettite but not Bonds, Mcgwire, Clemens, Sosa and Palmeiro? All 7 should be in or none should be in Unintelligence... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted November 17, 2020 Dale Murphy 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, KSB2424 said: Dale Murphy If he gets in, it will be by Veteran's Committee vote... Unfortunate that is his only chance... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Dale Murphy 4 minutes ago, posty said: If he gets in, it will be by Veteran's Committee vote... Unfortunate that is his only chance... Really good player and well liked by fans. Just not sure he should get in. Didn't his stats drop off a cliff during the latter part of his career? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted November 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, vuduchile said: Really good player and well liked by fans. Just not sure he should get in. Didn't his stats drop off a cliff during the latter part of his career? Yeah his last season in Philly and one in Colorado were awful... Hit .161 and .143, played in 18 and 26 games respectively... His six-year stretch in the mid-80s was incredible, but that doesn't make it HoF material for sure... I know he will never get in, but one can hold out hope... https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murphda05.shtml 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,621 Posted November 17, 2020 31 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Dale Murphy Then Mattingly too. Very comparable. Using the Kirby Puckett standard, they both belong in. Dwight Evans too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vuduchile 1,941 Posted November 17, 2020 27 minutes ago, posty said: Yeah his last season in Philly and one in Colorado were awful... Hit .161 and .143, played in 18 and 26 games respectively... His six-year stretch in the mid-80s was incredible, but that doesn't make it HoF material for sure... I know he will never get in, but one can hold out hope... https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/murphda05.shtml It really makes you look at today's players differently when you consider this. Aside from Trout, and maybe Betts and Yelich, who's had a 5-6 year stretch like that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted November 17, 2020 Vizquel for sure. And not to say they wouldn't anyway, but Shills and Sheffield are helped by the weakness of this class.... I'd be ok with them both getting in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,574 Posted November 17, 2020 they need to abolish this whole system Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 982 Posted November 17, 2020 I think Mattingly and Fred McGriff should be in the HOF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Cruzer said: Vizquel for sure. And not to say they wouldn't anyway, but Shills and Sheffield are helped by the weakness of this class.... I'd be ok with them both getting in. New York Yankees outfielder Gary Sheffield admitted using a testosterone-based steroid supplied by BALCO after being introduced to the Burlingame-based lab by Barry Bonds. https://www.sfgate.com/sports/shea/article/Sheffield-tells-of-steroid-use-rift-with-Bonds-2689594.php Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, edjr said: New York Yankees outfielder Gary Sheffield admitted using a testosterone-based steroid supplied by BALCO after being introduced to the Burlingame-based lab by Barry Bonds. https://www.sfgate.com/sports/shea/article/Sheffield-tells-of-steroid-use-rift-with-Bonds-2689594.php Oops- audios Sheff. : Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Cruzer said: Oops- audios Sheff. : That is what kills me about the steroid bullchit. People don't even know. They just know Bonds, Clemens, Sosa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, edjr said: That is what kills me about the steroid bullchit. People don't even know. They just know Bonds, Clemens, Sosa. Bingo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,556 Posted December 17, 2020 On 11/16/2020 at 2:58 PM, posty said: First-timers to the ballot Michael Cuddyer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
