Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted November 20, 2020 My league not going to allow playing him somewhere other than QB. I'm perfectly fine with it. League scoring gives 6 pts for every TD, including QB so that is the highest scoring position usually. My league is a group of buddies who are reasonable. I'm okay with their decision. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 20, 2020 Wow what a uptick for those that picked him up, congrats , and good luck. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted November 20, 2020 3 hours ago, AxeElf said: This is your thread; a more apt analogy would have you on the pitcher's mound with a chance to strike out Axe Elf. Nah, you can strike out on your own. I am enjoying hitting bombs off your comments. I will agree with you on one comment, it will make it interesting this Sunday. Plus, I have always believed that this forum is about inside info or situations that can help our fftoday members. I have done it on many occasions. Examples The L.Bell holdout, and get Connor. This year, CEH as a bust Now T. Hill as TE/QB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted November 20, 2020 4 hours ago, AxeElf said: This is your thread; a more apt analogy would have you on the pitcher's mound with a chance to strike out Axe Elf. I think this is the most 2020 way to handle it--give us one weekend of chaos and disappointment before fixing the problem. Almost makes me wish I had some ESPN leagues, just for the entertainment factor. Have they ever removed eligibility before though? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted November 20, 2020 50 minutes ago, justforbeer said: Nah, you can strike out on your own. I am enjoying hitting bombs off your comments. Hey, just thought I would help you hone your analogy. If you prefer an awkward and technically inaccurate metaphor, well, I guess it's your wet dream, you can dress me up however you like. 8 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Have they ever removed eligibility before though? Does it matter? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted November 20, 2020 42 minutes ago, AxeElf said: Hey, just thought I would help you hone your analogy. If you prefer an awkward and technically inaccurate metaphor, well, I guess it's your wet dream, you can dress me up however you like. Does it matter? Just wondering if there was precedence. As I said earlier, this is pretty much exactly what happened with Joe Webb awhile back and pretty sure his wasn't changed (edit: although can't remember what site(s) that was). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedzoneMonster 102 Posted November 20, 2020 Play ATL DEF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 399 Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Have they ever removed eligibility before though? They're not for this week at least. They said they would re assess for week 12 though, so I would imagine it's a one week thing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted November 21, 2020 1 hour ago, polecatt said: They're not for this week at least. They said they would re assess for week 12 though, so I would imagine it's a one week thing I know, was just curious if they’ve ever done it before Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gcgopher 0 Posted November 21, 2020 If i remember correctly, one of the last times something like this happened was Ty Montgomery when he had wr eligibility on espn. Then Green Bay used him as a starting rb, but he kept wr eligibility all year. They didnt just take it away. They dont do it in baseball either. A guy comes into the season with a 3b designation but he starts playing first the whole season. They take away the 3b eligibility the next year but not in the middle of a season. I’d say kudos to those of you who had thr foresight to make thr pick up. The ones who are mad dont have him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted November 21, 2020 19 hours ago, jrokh said: you are too funny... So is he really taking “all” the starting reps in practice? Is it possible Payton pulls a Craig Counsell and “starts” Hill but takes him out after a couple plays? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nospk 230 Posted November 21, 2020 21 hours ago, AxeElf said: This is your thread; a more apt analogy would have you on the pitcher's mound with a chance to strike out Axe Elf. I think this is the most 2020 way to handle it--give us one weekend of chaos and disappointment before fixing the problem. Almost makes me wish I had some ESPN leagues, just for the entertainment factor. You want to get 4.16 points? go ahead bro lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pee-diddy 27 Posted November 21, 2020 If I remember correctly, wasn’t Marcus Colston (coincidentally also on the Saints) designated WR and TE on some ff websites? I think he had that designation on Yahoo and they kept it that way all year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted November 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, pee-diddy said: If I remember correctly, wasn’t Marcus Colston (coincidentally also on the Saints) designated WR and TE on some ff websites? I think he had that designation on Yahoo and they kept it that way all year. Yes, geniuses at Yahoo bought online rumors that Colston would be a backup TE project. Colston had one of the best rookie WR seasons ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted November 21, 2020 The Saints are going to run like hell on the atl falcs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 567 Posted November 21, 2020 4 hours ago, TimHauck said: So is he really taking “all” the starting reps in practice? Is it possible Payton pulls a Craig Counsell and “starts” Hill but takes him out after a couple plays? possible? definitely. Payton likes shenanigans... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
justforbeer 39 Posted November 21, 2020 18 hours ago, AxeElf said: Hey, just thought I would help you hone your analogy. If you prefer an awkward and technically inaccurate metaphor, well, I guess it's your wet dream, you can dress me up however you like. Does it matter? Are you know insinuating that you want to be in a dress and called Sally? Didn’t know you swing that way but, that’s cool. I don’t have any interest in that kind of stuff. To each their own. AxeSally. walkoff.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 399 Posted November 21, 2020 14 hours ago, TimHauck said: I know, was just curious if they’ve ever done it before I've been playing on ESPN since they started and I can't remember it ever happening. About the only players I remember though that had dual positions were RB/WR though. Those never changed. I think because it was usually somebody like Tavon Austin who wasn't a big play any way. Don't ever remember a situation where you could start a QB at TE or any other positon for that matter. We're in uncharted territory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted November 21, 2020 41 minutes ago, polecatt said: I've been playing on ESPN since they started and I can't remember it ever happening. About the only players I remember though that had dual positions were RB/WR though. Those never changed. I think because it was usually somebody like Tavon Austin who wasn't a big play any way. Don't ever remember a situation where you could start a QB at TE or any other positon for that matter. We're in uncharted territory. Again, Joe Webb. Pretty sure he helped some people win leagues 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted November 21, 2020 Good point on Webb but Hill is better than Webb, has a better cast and a far better coach. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 399 Posted November 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Again, Joe Webb. Pretty sure he helped some people win leagues It didn't in any of my leagues, but I'm sure it did in some Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted November 21, 2020 2 hours ago, justforbeer said: Are you know insinuating that you want to be in a dress and called Sally? Didn’t know you swing that way but, that’s cool. I don’t have any interest in that kind of stuff. To each their own. AxeSally. Please keep your sexual fantasies regarding Axe Elf to yourself. Feel free to share your FOOTBALL related fantasies regarding Axe Elf at your leisure, however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Food Blister 0 Posted November 22, 2020 He's still a TE on Fanduel. Obvously I'm starting him at TE to get QB points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 399 Posted November 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Food Blister said: He's still a TE on Fanduel. Obvously I'm starting him at TE to get QB points. I'm sure that's a popular play this week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted November 22, 2020 I'm not actually sure you can discount Payton skrewing with the falcs (and everyone else) and starting or playing Winston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 567 Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, SaintsInDome2006 said: I'm not actually sure you can discount Payton skrewing with the falcs (and everyone else) and starting or playing Winston. Definitely could happen. Hammering Hank Goldberg said he expects Winston will play most of the game after the first series... Still as a TE, what are you really risking? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted November 22, 2020 Quote Saints QB Taysom Hill's stats from the 2019 preseason: 1 vs. Vikings | 8/14 for 80, 1 TD, 1 INT. 6-45 rush 2 @ Chargers | 11/15 for 136, 2 TDs. 5-53 rush 3 @ Jets | 8/13 for 127. 2-15 rush 4 vs. Dolphins | 13/17 for 100. 5-35 rush TP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted November 22, 2020 1 minute ago, jrokh said: Definitely could happen. Hammering Hank Goldberg said he expects Winston will play most of the game after the first series... Still as a TE, what are you really risking? Oh nothing, I'd start him, Hill has been on the uptick anyway. Payton likes midseason wrinkles and I think he was already working Hill in as a RB3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fatguylittlecoat 13 Posted November 22, 2020 I picked him up this week, started him at TE, a few of my fellow owners are claiming foul ... anyone else getting fallout ? In my neighborhood league, another team picked him up, started him, no complaints. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FlyinHeadlock 459 Posted November 22, 2020 How is it foul. If he would have busted nobody would have said a word...meh. Congrats to anyone who had the balls to start him. I could not have done it unless I was extremely desperate. IMO he should never have been a TE since his official position is QB. I still don't understand that aspect but rules are rules. If a league accepted it before the game it's really nothing but raw emotions at that point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 128 Posted November 22, 2020 Terrific today, he would have had another long TD too if not for losing that fumble. He was on his way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mile High Magic 8 Posted November 22, 2020 I think this is a huge mistake by ESPN putting many a commish in the middle of what was legal vs unfair advantage. Way to go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,795 Posted November 22, 2020 I don’t see what the argument is. He’s currently eligible as a TE, end of story (no I don’t have him). If ESPN thinks it’s unfair then they’ll change it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,452 Posted November 22, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 7:24 PM, stonewall said: Ideal, indeed. Lol indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted November 23, 2020 **crickets chirping** Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jedi Sensei 17 Posted November 23, 2020 5 hours ago, TimHauck said: I don’t see what the argument is. He’s currently eligible as a TE, end of story (no I don’t have him). If ESPN thinks it’s unfair then they’ll change it. So you're in favor of unfair advantages, so long as they're "legal" according to the tool you're using?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted November 23, 2020 MORAL: If you play for money on ESPN rather than Yahoo, you deserve what you get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted November 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, Jedi Sensei said: So you're in favor of unfair advantages, so long as they're "legal" according to the tool you're using?? Yes, I'm in favor of any "legal" advantage or technicality that helps me win weeks. Using players with dual-designations, in either of the positions that they are designated for by the host site, is not unethical....in fact, it's happened several times over the course of the last few years. It's part of the game of FF that occurs from time to time. However, I respectfully disagree with your characterization of it being "unfair". ESPN set the parameters, and Hill was available in most all leagues at some point or another for any owner to take a flier on. Is it an "unfair" advantage when an NFL coach has his QB target a defensive back that appears hobbled on the field? Of course not...it's simple gamesmanship, and you play to win the game. 22 minutes ago, AxeElf said: MORAL: If you play for money on ESPN rather than Yahoo, you deserve what you get. Were you able to trot Fells out today? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, stonewall said: Were you able to trot Fells out today? Ebron and Schultz, mostly, but I had Hurst in two; hopefully it won't matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stonewall 647 Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, AxeElf said: Ebron and Schultz, mostly, but I had Hurst in two; hopefully it won't matter. Schultz has been a pleasant surprise. Had Hurst going in one non-ppr league myself. Started over Cooks. Cost me .6 points Hill in one ESPN league, and Goedert in another 2. Managed my first 4-fer-4 week in a while, regardless. Herbert and Theilen bailed me out of my Hurst zero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites