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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

People who wished death on Trump or other Republicans with COVID are too.

Also- you think there aren't men on testosterone enhancers in the military?

Uhm, no, there isn't.

Have you been in the military?  You have any proof?

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6 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

so if the Al-Queda does a 2 hour interview and in the 2 min clip happen to say, imagine if you will two planes crash into the world trade centers, and two more planes are hijacked to crash elsewhere in order to attack the united states, and that occurs a month before that exact attack occurs, it would just be something coincidental and out of context.

Please explain to me how what they said, and follow it up with exactly what happened (thats the key) is out of context

had this clip been from 2005 you would have a point, they literally are just randomly talking about a way to vaccinate the world a month before a disease comes out that requires vaccinating the world and bypassing the FDA approval, then it happens, its just me being into conspiracy

you probably dont think Gain of Function research happened either

 

I know you aren't arguing in good faith at this point but I'm saying- I don't know the context of the speech or discussion that was being had. Suppose the topic was "Fighting a Hypothetical Disease." What I am saying is- I'm not going to watch a 2 minute video that is CLEARLY EDITED and assume that it is some global conspiracy. Yes you are just engaging in conspiracy porn at this point.

5 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

 

Trannies aren't mentally ill?

Lol.  

 

Transsexualism is not caused by mental illness. You should be able to provide scientific evidence that it is. I've yet to see anyone present it. 

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

People who wished death on Trump or other Republicans with COVID are too.

Also- you think there aren't men on testosterone enhancers in the military?

I'll take a link to any post of yours on ANY forum condemning that WHEN it happened.  TIA!

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Sean Moon loves the trannies.  This is great.  I am here for this.  I will listen to a whole speech on why they dont have a mental illness.  If you would, enlighten me.  Long form if you could.  

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

I know you aren't arguing in good faith at this point but I'm saying- I don't know the context of the speech or discussion that was being had. Suppose the topic was "Fighting a Hypothetical Disease." What I am saying is- I'm not going to watch a 2 minute video that is CLEARLY EDITED and assume that it is some global conspiracy. Yes you are just engaging in conspiracy porn at this point.

Transsexualism is not caused by mental illness. You should be able to provide scientific evidence that it is. I've yet to see anyone present it. 

Open your focking eyes Sho.  Ya goofball.  

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5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'll take a link to any post of yours on ANY forum condemning that WHEN it happened.  TIA!

I'm telling you now those people are jerkoffs and I would never, and no one should, wish death on anyone. 

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5 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Sean Moon loves the trannies.  This is great.  I am here for this.  I will listen to a whole speech on why they dont have a mental illness.  If you would, enlighten me.  Long form if you could.  

Show me your evidence that transsexualism is caused by mental illness. Should be easy to find since supposedly it is so prevalent. 

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6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Show me your evidence that transsexualism is caused by mental illness. Should be easy to find since supposedly it is so prevalent. 

Serious question...do you think that all people who do not identify as the gender they have at birth, are making a concious choice to identify as something else?

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1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Serious question...do you think that all people who do not identify as the gender they have at birth, are making a concious choice to identify as something else?

yep they want to be freaks, nothing wrong with their brain🙄

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Serious question...do you think that all people who do not identify as the gender they have at birth, are making a concious choice to identify as something else?

Some are. Some are born the wrong sex or see themselves as something different than the rest of the world sees them. 

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

yep they want to be freaks, nothing wrong with their brain🙄

 

 

Tell me again you aren't hate filled on this. Must be fun to have to not see anything outside of your narrow worldview. 

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12 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Show me your evidence that transsexualism is caused by mental illness. Should be easy to find since supposedly it is so prevalent. 

:lol:

Transgenders, 4 Studies Say It’s Mental Disorders

Perhaps it’s time to pound the drums more loudly than ever about what I think as the greatest medical fraud in our nation’s history. 30% of transgenders commit suicide because their mental disorders remain undiagnosed, and as such will not be treated.

I have long held that individuals who suffer from gender distress have one of handful of unresolved mental illnesses that exists side by side with their gender stress. The gender distress is not acting alone but binds with an additional co-morbid mental illness. “We found 90% of these diverse patients had at least one other significant form of “psychopathology” says a study reported in 2009 by the Department of Psychiatry, Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio. The psychopathologies they found in their study were “mood and anxiety regulation and adaption in the world”. (1)

Everywhere we see the constant rhetoric about gender change success and yet not one sound media report that acknowledges 30% of transgenders commit suicide because of untreated mental illness.

Suicide.org states that 90% of all suicides are the direct result of untreated mental illness.

What other treatment focuses on surgery while 30% of the patients commit suicide?

Frankly, the professional and media slobber all over themselves to maintain political correctness. Most of the voices and media blindly talk about the long-term value of a gender transition and hormones treatments, suggesting transgenders lives are improved when the truth is, their lives are often worse because of their untreated mental illness evidenced by their 30% suicide rate. The surgery has failed to resolve the gender distress and often elevates their anxiety and depression.

You can see for yourself this study (1) has concerns about those who care for transgendered adults and the media for spinning rhetoric that transsexualism is a civil rights issue. Concern because they do not disclose that nearly 90% of the time transgenders suffer serious mental issues, disorders that are causing their regret and premature deaths. An ongoing mental health issue, for sure.

As a transgender I do not feel transgenders have a legitimate civil rights issue but do have a legitimate mental health concern. If in fact we want to prevent their suicides we need to focus on the issues of suicides. Making transgenders a civil rights issue will not reduce suicides, not at all.

There are other studies, all ignored by the gender changing advocates. Studies from Sweden, Denmark and also a 2013 study showing 90% of transgenders have mental disorders consisting of depression and anxiety–known causes of suicide. These studies provide irrefutable evidence transgenders overwhelmingly suffer from untreated mental disorders. Gender surgery is not the required treatment for depression and anxiety or other transgender mental disorders.

The Swedish study concludes: “Persons with transsexualism, after sex reassignment, have considerably higher risks for mortality, suicidal behavior” (2)

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24 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

In your Very centrist opinion, if a Republican candidate you approved of had the same policies as Trump....would you vote for them?

Many of the policies, particularly business-related, would get my very centrist vote if embraced by a moderate candidate who doesn't play the role of narcissistic, power-hungry asshat who tries to bully people into circumnavigating the fair-and-square American process to keep his fat, fascist assery in office.

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What is the source on that? I mean christ- you can see opinion in the writing. 

Also, mental illness is not the same as mental disorder. 

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1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Many of the policies, particularly business-related, would get my very centrist vote if embraced by a moderate candidate who doesn't play the role of narcissistic, power-hungry asshat who tries to bully people into circumnavigating the fair-and-square American process to keep his fat, fascist assery in office.

:lol::banana:

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2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Many of the policies, particularly business-related, would get my very centrist vote if embraced by a moderate candidate who doesn't play the role of narcissistic, power-hungry asshat who tries to bully people into circumnavigating the fair-and-square American process to keep his fat, fascist assery in office.

Don't forget the hilarious thread of Trump's (and some people here) that the Democrats stole the Presidency...They didn't cheat to win a bunch of Senate races, they lost seats in the House, but they just decided to steal one thing but not enough to give the power to really do a whole lot. 

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Don't forget the hilarious thread of Trump's (and some people here) that the Democrats stole the Presidency...They didn't cheat to win a bunch of Senate races, they lost seats in the House, but they just decided to steal one thing but not enough to give the power to really do a whole lot. 

TRUMP!!!!!  :cry:   :banana:

It will never end Trump being in these guy's heads. 

Of course, I wouldn't want  to talk about creepy joey either if I were them.

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2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

TRUMP!!!!!  :cry:   :banana:

It will never end Trump being in these guy's heads. 

Of course, I wouldn't want  to talk about creepy joey either if I were them.

Provide your source for the opinion piece you posted please. 

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4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Some are. Some are born the wrong sex or see themselves as something different than the rest of the world sees them. 

 

Ok, so we can agree that some people simply want attention or whatever and have made up multiple genders that make no sense.

I need some clarification on the second sentence. Let's disect the first part. As far as I know, with the exception of an infanticimal number of intersex people, everyone with XX chromosomes has a vigina and  everyone with XY chromosomes has a .  How exactly is someone born the wrong sex?   

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1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Ok, so we can agree that some people simply want attention or whatever and have made up multiple genders that make no sense.

I need some clarification on the second sentence. Let's disect the first part. As far as I know, with the exception of an infanticimal number of intersex people, everyone with XX chromosomes has a vigina and  everyone with XY chromosomes has a .  How exactly is someone born the wrong sex?   

Just a heads up…You’re going to have to post some sources for this guy.

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4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Ok, so we can agree that some people simply want attention or whatever and have made up multiple genders that make no sense.

I need some clarification on the second sentence. Let's disect the first part. As far as I know, with the exception of an infanticimal number of intersex people, everyone with XX chromosomes has a vigina and  everyone with XY chromosomes has a .  How exactly is someone born the wrong sex?   

 

No- I don't agree that people want attention and I don't think people are making up genders. That is what you believe. 

Here is some info you can read:

https://transequality.org/issues/resources/frequently-asked-questions-about-transgender-people

https://www.healthline.com/health/transgender/difference-between-transgender-and-transsexual#transsexual-defined

https://www.livescience.com/54949-transgender-definition.html

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Just now, Sean Mooney said:

To repeat, in Mooneys words, how is someone born the wrong sex?

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27 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Some are. Some are born the wrong sex or see themselves as something different than the rest of the world sees them. 

Tell me again you aren't hate filled on this. Must be fun to have to not see anything outside of your narrow worldview. 

I dont hate them in the slightest, I feel bad for them truly, and never disrespect them, I want them to get help, just like when my Aunt had multiple personality disorder

 

 

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1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

To repeat, in Mooneys words, how is someone born the wrong sex?

cause they dont feel like the sex they are, means they are born in the wrong body.  I feel bad for lesbians who are just tomboys forced into being a boy nowadays

 

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5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

To repeat, in Mooneys words, how is someone born the wrong sex?

He truly believes that whatever gender someone believes they are is what determines their gender. Science doesn’t apply here.

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5 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

To repeat, in Mooneys words, how is someone born the wrong sex?

And to repeat your words- someone is transgender because they are seeking attention from you. 

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30 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Many of the policies, particularly business-related, would get my very centrist vote if embraced by a moderate candidate who doesn't play the role of narcissistic, power-hungry asshat who tries to bully people into circumnavigating the fair-and-square American process to keep his fat, fascist assery in office.

so what you are saying is that you were fine with him until he challenged the election, and yet you call it Fascist yet think Uncle Joe disregarding a 9-0 supreme court decision and issuing national mandates without authority is just what?  Democracy?

did you rant and rave when the democrats didnt respect the American process, I am sure you were pissed they ran with RUSSIA for 3 years in attempt to overturn the election

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

cause they dont feel like the sex they are, means they are born in the wrong body.  I feel bad for lesbians who are just tomboys forced into being a boy nowadays

 

You called them "freaks"

2 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

He truly believes that whatever gender someone believes they are is what determines their gender. Science doesn’t apply here.

Gender dysphoria is a thing that is science related. But in reality what I am saying is that I believe people have strong feelings about what they are and that is not always a specific choice they are making and instead may be a genetic predisposition or some triggering event early in life. I don't purport to know all of that stuff but I also don't insult them, call them names, or try to pretend that they need to conform to my ideas of the world. 

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1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

And to repeat your words- someone is transgender because they are seeking attention from you. 

As with ANY segment of the population( man, woman, doctor, dentist, waitress, etc) some people just want attention.  Put that to rest.  

You've made a very key statement that needs explaining.  How is someone born the wrong sex?

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3 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

As with ANY segment of the population( man, woman, doctor, dentist, waitress, etc) some people just want attention.  Put that to rest.  

You've made a very key statement that needs explaining.  How is someone born the wrong sex?

You explain first how a person experiencing gender dysphoria or anything else that leads into or is a result of them being transgender is some affront to get your attention. 

 

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27 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Provide your source for the opinion piece you posted please. 

Again. You, like every other extreme left liberal can't react to the words being said. You need to attack a messenger. 

Liberals are so stupid. 

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1 minute ago, Utilit99 said:

Again. You, like every other extreme left liberal can't react to the words being said. You need to attack a messenger. 

Liberals are so stupid. 

What is the source of the article? That should be easy to provide. 

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1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

You explain first how a person experiencing gender dysphoria or anything else that leads into or is a result of them being transgender is some affront to get your attention. 

 

LMAO...are you really childish enough to play a game of "you first"?  Just answer the question, guy. How is someone born the wrong sex?  

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2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

LMAO...are you really childish enough to play a game of "you first"?  Just answer the question, guy. How is someone born the wrong sex?  

I provided articles that answered the question. Not my fault you don't want to read it.

So now my question- why are transgendered people choosing that just for your attention?

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1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

I provided articles that answered the question. Not my fault you don't want to read it.

 

I read them, some before today. None of those articles say a word about "born the wrong sex".  How does it happen?

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2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

I read them, some before today. None of those articles say a word about "born the wrong sex".  How does it happen?

Literally the first article so sell your story elsewhere that you read:

 

What is gender dysphoria?

For some transgender people, the difference between the gender they are thought to be at birth and the gender they know themselves to be can lead to serious emotional distress that affects their health and everyday lives if not addressed. Gender dysphoria is the medical diagnosis for someone who experiences this distress.

Not all transgender people have gender dysphoria. On its own, being transgender is not considered a medical condition. Many transgender people do not experience serious anxiety or stress associated with the difference between their gender identity and their gender of birth, and so may not have gender dysphoria.

Gender dysphoria can often be relieved by expressing one’s gender in a way that the person is comfortable with. That can include dressing and grooming in a way that reflects who one knows they are, using a different name or pronoun, and, for some, taking medical steps to physically change their body. All major medical organizations in the United States recognize that living according to one’s gender identity is an effective, safe and medically necessary treatment for many people who have gender dysphoria.

It's important to remember that while being transgender is not in itself an illness, many transgender people need to deal with physical and mental health problems because of widespread discrimination and stigma. Many transgender people live in a society that tells them that their deeply held identity is wrong or deviant. Some transgender people have lost their families, their jobs, their homes, and their support, and some experience harassment and even violence. Transgender children may experience rejection or even emotional or physical abuse at home, at school, or in their communities. These kinds of experiences can be challenging for anyone, and for some people, it can lead to anxiety disorders, depression, and other mental health conditions. But these conditions are not caused by having a transgender identity: they're a result of the intolerance many transgender people have to deal with. Many transgender people – especially transgender people who are accepted and valued in their communities – are able to live healthy and fulfilling lives.

 

The perception of those people is different than their reality which is "being born the wrong sex." But you know- it is just to get your attention. 

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5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Literally the first article so sell your story elsewhere that you read:

 

What is gender dysphoria?

For some transgender people, the difference between the gender they are thought to be at birth and the gender they know themselves to be can lead to serious emotional distress that affects their health and everyday lives if not addressed. Gender dysphoria is the medical diagnosis for someone who experiences this distress.

Not all transgender people have gender dysphoria. On its own, being transgender is not considered a medical condition. Many transgender people do not experience serious anxiety or stress associated with the difference between their gender identity and their gender of birth, and so may not have gender dysphoria.

Gender dysphoria can often be relieved by expressing one’s gender in a way that the person is comfortable with. That can include dressing and grooming in a way that reflects who one knows they are, using a different name or pronoun, and, for some, taking medical steps to physically change their body. All major medical organizations in the United States recognize that living according to one’s gender identity is an effective, safe and medically necessary treatment for many people who have gender dysphoria.

It's important to remember that while being transgender is not in itself an illness, many transgender people need to deal with physical and mental health problems because of widespread discrimination and stigma. Many transgender people live in a society that tells them that their deeply held identity is wrong or deviant. Some transgender people have lost their families, their jobs, their homes, and their support, and some experience harassment and even violence. Transgender children may experience rejection or even emotional or physical abuse at home, at school, or in their communities. These kinds of experiences can be challenging for anyone, and for some people, it can lead to anxiety disorders, depression, and other mental health conditions. But these conditions are not caused by having a transgender identity: they're a result of the intolerance many transgender people have to deal with. Many transgender people – especially transgender people who are accepted and valued in their communities – are able to live healthy and fulfilling lives.

 

The perception of those people is different than their reality which is "being born the wrong sex." But you know- it is just to get your attention. 

LMAO...the word sex isn't even used in that article.  

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Just now, Fireballer said:

LMAO...the word sex isn't even used in that article.  

LMAO....you'd be better to just say you don't understand this and stop.

Now it's your turn- explain how someone is transgender just to get your attention.

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33 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Don't forget the hilarious thread of Trump's (and some people here) that the Democrats stole the Presidency...They didn't cheat to win a bunch of Senate races, they lost seats in the House, but they just decided to steal one thing but not enough to give the power to really do a whole lot. 

But they go in hook, line and sinker because Asshat Capt. Crazysauce leads them. Weeeeeeee.

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39 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You called them "freaks"

Gender dysphoria is a thing that is science related. But in reality what I am saying is that I believe people have strong feelings about what they are and that is not always a specific choice they are making and instead may be a genetic predisposition or some triggering event early in life. I don't purport to know all of that stuff but I also don't insult them, call them names, or try to pretend that they need to conform to my ideas of the world. 

Yep cause I don’t believe in political correctness. Just as I would call a bearded woman a freak I don’t change words I use just cause society decides to. For example African American has never once been a phrase I have said. 

would I call any of them anything other than their name?  Nope and I will call a dude dressing like a chick her as well  I won’t ever ask what somebodies preferred pronoun is either 

 

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3 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Yep cause I don’t believe in political correctness. Just as I would call a bearded woman a freak I don’t change words I use just cause society decides to. For example African American has never once been a phrase I have said. 

would I call any of them anything other than their name?  Nope and I will call a dude dressing like a chick her as well  I won’t ever ask what somebodies preferred pronoun is either 

 

So basically you are a d!ck and proud of it.

 

Cool. Doesn't make you less of an a$$hole

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