DocNiner 44 Posted February 3, 2021 Other than Brady and Mahomes what player/players do you see coming up big for their team and.making a difference in the outcome of the game. OFFENSE-RB CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE. 15 carries, 68 yds., 1 td. 7 receptions, 82 yds.,1 td DEFENSE- DB TYRANN MATHIEU- 2 INT's, 1 returned 33 yds. and 1 td. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 403 Posted February 4, 2021 KC- Offense, WR Mecole Hardman, 3 rec, 90 yds, and a 65 yd TD. and a punt return for a TD Defense, DT Chris Jones, 5 tackles, 2 sacks, 2 tfl, FF, FR TB- Offense, RB Leonard Fournette, 22 carries, 115 yds, 2 TDs, 2 rec, 25 yds Defense, S Antoine Winfield Jr. 8 tackles, Int, 2 pd, FR for TD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taco breath 419 Posted February 4, 2021 bell could get those rb numbers. And win the MVP. 1000 to 1, odds in Vegas. Just saying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 4, 2021 I just don't want LeSean McCoy to get back to back rings for doing next to nothing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 751 Posted February 4, 2021 10 hours ago, taco breath said: bell could get those rb numbers. And win the MVP. 1000 to 1, odds in Vegas. Just saying. I don't see it happening. CEH is practicing in full and the other D Williams has looked better than Bell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted February 4, 2021 Kelce duh... Heights Huy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jarvis Basnight 119 Posted February 4, 2021 I think Antonio Brown could have the game of his life Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RoadLizard 73 Posted February 5, 2021 How about like most of the rest of the team? Its NOT about Brady vs Mahomes. Neither Brady, Mahomes or any QB has ever or can ever win a SB by themselves. Can we get off that idea? Geesh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JagFan 97 Posted February 5, 2021 Just about any KC skill player. And you all can narrow your guesses to just KC because this will be a rout. Possibly the most lopsided Super Bowl score in history. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted February 5, 2021 5 hours ago, JagFan said: Possibly the most lopsided Super Bowl score in history. Well let's see: The three most lopsided super bowls were: 2014 Broncos 43 Seahawks 8- 35 point margin; 1986 Bears 46 Pats 10- 36 point margin and 1990 49ers 55 Broncos 10- 45 point margin. So lets split the difference and say the Chiefs would have to win by 40 to fulfill your prediction. In the regular season 9 of the Chiefs' 14 wins were by single digits including 5 by 3pts or less. They only won two games all year by big margins and both were less than 30 and against the terrible Jets and Broncos. The spread on the Super Bowl is between 3 and 3.5, depending on where you look, and hasn't really moved, meaning both Vegas and the Sharp money thinks it will be close. Throw in the Tampa QB being the GOAT and your prediction goes against all possible logic. If you really believe half of what you said, you should be making huge wagers on the Chiefs at that number... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted February 5, 2021 5 hours ago, JagFan said: Just about any KC skill player. And you all can narrow your guesses to just KC because this will be a rout. Possibly the most lopsided Super Bowl score in history. Super Bowl Contender Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 5, 2021 6 hours ago, RoadLizard said: Neither Brady, Mahomes or any QB has ever or can ever win a SB by themselves. I'm going to have to see the testing results on that theory, especially in regards to Mahomes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 5, 2021 35 minutes ago, jrokh said: Well let's see: The three most lopsided super bowls were: 2014 Broncos 43 Seahawks 8- 35 point margin; 1986 Bears 46 Pats 10- 36 point margin and 1990 49ers 55 Broncos 10- 45 point margin. So lets split the difference and say the Chiefs would have to win by 40 to fulfill your prediction. In the regular season 9 of the Chiefs' 14 wins were by single digits including 5 by 3pts or less. They only won two games all year by big margins and both were less than 30 and against the terrible Jets and Broncos. The spread on the Super Bowl is between 3 and 3.5, depending on where you look, and hasn't really moved, meaning both Vegas and the Sharp money thinks it will be close. Throw in the Tampa QB being the GOAT and your prediction goes against all possible logic. If you really believe half of what you said, you should be making huge wagers on the Chiefs at that number... Agreed, in general. The Chiefs don't win by overkill like that. They tend to come out like it's a party in the first half, get down 17-3, then get mad and come back to win 34-20. No, it won't be a blowout, it will just be the kind of easy victory that you get when you can pretty much do anything you want at any point in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,643 Posted February 7, 2021 JPP, Devin White. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 4:17 AM, JagFan said: Just about any KC skill player. And you all can narrow your guesses to just KC because this will be a rout. Possibly the most lopsided Super Bowl score in history. Nice call Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vikings4ever 496 Posted February 8, 2021 The refs coming up big for the Bucs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 403 Posted February 8, 2021 The refs for sure, although I guess they don't count as players, "officially" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted February 8, 2021 1 hour ago, polecatt said: The refs for sure, although I guess they don't count as players, "officially" it may not have been the best officiated game I've seen, but the Chiefs did not lose because of it. The offense just didnt get it done. Largely because the Defensive front for TB totally dominated the OL of the Chiefs. That poor performance filtered down and Mahomes couldnt throw the deep ball the way he wanted to. TB's DB's were Jamming receivers at the line and the KC offense couldnt get into sync. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted February 8, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 4:17 AM, JagFan said: Just about any KC skill player. And you all can narrow your guesses to just KC because this will be a rout. Possibly the most lopsided Super Bowl score in history. No longer a Super Bowl Contender, now the Super Bowl Champs. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 403 Posted February 8, 2021 18 hours ago, Ray_T said: it may not have been the best officiated game I've seen, but the Chiefs did not lose because of it. The offense just didnt get it done. Largely because the Defensive front for TB totally dominated the OL of the Chiefs. That poor performance filtered down and Mahomes couldnt throw the deep ball the way he wanted to. TB's DB's were Jamming receivers at the line and the KC offense couldnt get into sync. No, they didn't, but it certainly didn't help that the officiating was as bad as the 3 weeks of replacement refs in 2012. I said on the other thread that the Bucs looked like the better team. I just think it ruined the game as viewer. If I were a Tampa fan, I'm sure I wouldn't care. The two biggest factors for the Chiefs, their decimated OL and the refs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 751 Posted February 9, 2021 2 hours ago, polecatt said: No, they didn't, but it certainly didn't help that the officiating was as bad as the 3 weeks of replacement refs in 2012. I said on the other thread that the Bucs looked like the better team. I just think it ruined the game as viewer. If I were a Tampa fan, I'm sure I wouldn't care. The two biggest factors for the Chiefs, their decimated OL and the refs. I wouldn't discount settling for field goals and not capitalizing in the red zone and the dumb timeout right before half. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, polecatt said: The two biggest factors for the Chiefs, their decimated OL and the refs. No, the biggest factor for the Chiefs were all the dropped passes, including 2 potential TDs and several other 3rd-down drive-enders. Mahomes was doing enough to win, even despite the immense pressure being applied by the Bucs--throwing 30 yard dimes from a prone position two feet off the ground when necessary. But that one bounced off of Darrell Williams' face mask in the end zone, or it would have been replayed forever. Hardman caught 2 of 6 targets. Hill and Kelce combined for 17 of 25. The OL will be better next year with its Pro Bowl members back, but Mahomes doesn't need an O-line to be competitive--he just needs his receivers to catch his passes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted February 9, 2021 11 hours ago, AxeElf said: No, the biggest factor for the Chiefs were all the dropped passes, including 2 potential TDs and several other 3rd-down drive-enders. Mahomes was doing enough to win, even despite the immense pressure being applied by the Bucs--throwing 30 yard dimes from a prone position two feet off the ground when necessary. But that one bounced off of Darrell Williams' face mask in the end zone, or it would have been replayed forever. Hardman caught 2 of 6 targets. Hill and Kelce combined for 17 of 25. The OL will be better next year with its Pro Bowl members back, but Mahomes doesn't need an O-line to be competitive--he just needs his receivers to catch his passes. Sooo.... they chocked? Surprising. I thought that the team who was going to have an easy win would've been a little more confident. Guess not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 9, 2021 3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: Sooo.... they chocked? Surprising. I thought that the team who was going to have an easy win would've been a little more confident. Guess not. I think the word you are looking for is "choked," and yes, it's a pretty good descriptor for the Chiefs' WR corps on Sunday. If anything, though, I think the problem was too much confidence, rather than not enough--they've never NOT been able to overcome silly early mistakes before, but this game, they just kept making them. Hopefully it will be a lesson to the best team in the NFL that simply being the best isn't enough if you don't show it every time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 10, 2021 13 hours ago, AxeElf said: Hopefully it will be a lesson to the best team in the NFL that simply being the best isn't enough if you don't show it every time. Bucs, who were the best team in the league, didn't need a lesson. They just simply went out there and proved it in a beat down. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 11, 2021 19 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Bucs, who were the best team in the league... Their record would say otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted February 11, 2021 1 hour ago, AxeElf said: Their record would say otherwise. Not a great way to judge a team necessarily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 11, 2021 24 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Not a great way to judge a team necessarily. Still, it's all we have. Or at least it's all we use, when determining the "best" teams for the playoffs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted February 11, 2021 The Redskins disprove that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted February 11, 2021 10 hours ago, AxeElf said: Still, it's all we have. Or at least it's all we use, when determining the "best" teams for the playoffs. No it isn't... we actually have play the playoffs to determine that. There's even a game called, the "Super Bowl", that actually gets played which determines who the best team is. Here's a link. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted February 11, 2021 2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: No it isn't... we actually have play the playoffs to determine that. There's even a game called, the "Super Bowl", that actually gets played which determines who the best team is. Here's a link. Weepawed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted February 12, 2021 22 hours ago, AxeElf said: Still, it's all we have. Or at least it's all we use, when determining the "best" teams for the playoffs. Early in the season only matters in terms of helping you get to the postseason. Can easily argue from week 14 on the Bucs were the best team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted February 12, 2021 Ok we need a discussion, so make the easy argument that the Bucs were the best team in the nfl week 14 on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t.j 35 Posted February 12, 2021 2 hours ago, weepaws said: Ok we need a discussion, so make the easy argument that the Bucs were the best team in the nfl week 14 on. 8-0, average score of 31-19, including wins over the NFC 1 & 2 seeds and the AFC 1 seed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted February 12, 2021 On 2/8/2021 at 7:54 PM, AxeElf said: No, the biggest factor the Chiefs were all the dropped passes, including 2 potential TDs and several other 3rd-down drive-enders. Mahomes was doing enough to win, even despite the immense pressure being applied by the Bucs--throwing 30 yard dimes from a prone position two feet off the ground when necessary. But that one bounced off of Darrell Williams' face mask in the end zone, or it would have been replayed forever. Hardman caught 2 of 6 targets. Hill and Kelce combined for 17 of 25. The OL will be better next year with its Pro Bowl members back, but Mahomes doesn't need an O-line to be competitive--he just needs his receivers to catch his passes. you are right. there were some dropped passes that hurt far more than any of those officiating call. I guess it all goes together in a nice tapestry. bottom line, TB was able to make plays when it counts and KC was not. While Mahomes didnt play nearly as well as hes capable, the WR's certainly did not help him. and when up against a top team in the superbowl, you need to finish your drives unless you have a top 3 Defense shutting down the opposing offense. KC is a good team in a lot of ways, but Their Defense is not the strength of their team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted February 12, 2021 16 hours ago, t.j said: 8-0, average score of 31-19, including wins over the NFC 1 & 2 seeds and the AFC 1 seed. There you go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted February 17, 2021 On 2/5/2021 at 7:17 AM, JagFan said: Just about any KC skill player. And you all can narrow your guesses to just KC because this will be a rout. Possibly the most lopsided Super Bowl score in history. Yikes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites