cmh6476 751 Posted March 16, 2021 With chance to earn additional $3M in incentives Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jrokh 569 Posted March 16, 2021 Is he really any better than mitchy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 132 Posted March 16, 2021 I was kinda hoping the Texans would bring him home but not for $10 million. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted March 16, 2021 I’m not so sure what the bears gain here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 751 Posted March 16, 2021 51 minutes ago, Super Cubs said: I was kinda hoping the Texans would bring him home but not for $10 million. They got tyrod taylor for more money Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 403 Posted March 16, 2021 The Bears showing why they haven't had a good QB since Sid Luckman Dalton is an excellent back up but he shouldn't be the starter on a team that wants to win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Super Cubs 132 Posted March 17, 2021 1 hour ago, cmh6476 said: They got tyrod taylor for more money Almost 6 million up to 12 with incentives Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted March 18, 2021 The Trib left town, he’s now a back up with the Bills. Thats a very good move from him and for the Bills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lesjroza 70 Posted March 19, 2021 On 3/16/2021 at 4:40 PM, weepaws said: I’m not so sure what the bears gain here.  The Bears have been killed by a GM trying to cover his blunder of not only choosing Trubisky but using extra draft capital to get him, then making blunder after blunder trying to cover the previous blunders............. continually trading more future draft capital and allocating cap space poorly with reckless abandon. They have Dalton because that is who they could afford. They have to cut players who are viable because they don't have the space. I hope everyone is enjoying that trade for Kalil Mack which was all about GM shot to save his job for a couple of more years even though he knew Trubisky could never get it done at that point (yeah they knew, they watched him in practice every day) plus trading away any chance a future GM would have of replacing Trubisky while giving Mack a market contract that not even Gruden was willing to................those couple of years where the Bears looked like a rising team were a castle built on sand and it really was clear at the time to anyone who looked beyond the headlines. It's not Trubisky's fault that he's not superman BTW, it's all about Ryan Pace, worst capital allocator I've ever seen bar none, but heh, you can get yourself GM of the year if you are willing to go all in with someone else' money and f$ck the future for every body else. Sorry, had to get that off my chest.        Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted March 19, 2021 1 hour ago, lesjroza said:  The Bears have been killed by a GM trying to cover his blunder of not only choosing Trubisky but using extra draft capital to get him, then making blunder after blunder trying to cover the previous blunders............. continually trading more future draft capital and allocating cap space poorly with reckless abandon. They have Dalton because that is who they could afford. They have to cut players who are viable because they don't have the space. I hope everyone is enjoying that trade for Kalil Mack which was all about GM shot to save his job for a couple of more years even though he knew Trubisky could never get it done at that point (yeah they knew, they watched him in practice every day) plus trading away any chance a future GM would have of replacing Trubisky while giving Mack a market contract that not even Gruden was willing to................those couple of years where the Bears looked like a rising team were a castle built on sand and it really was clear at the time to anyone who looked beyond the headlines. It's not Trubisky's fault that he's not superman BTW, it's all about Ryan Pace, worst capital allocator I've ever seen bar none, but heh, you can get yourself GM of the year if you are willing to go all in with someone else' money and f$ck the future for every body else. Sorry, had to get that off my chest.        I hated the hiring from day 1. Everyone equated Ryan Pace coming from the Saints as instant success. I saw it as coming from a team who has wasted the potential of an all time great qb. The Saints had some down years while Pace was there The Bears ownership is cheap. They always have been. Thats why him and Nagy kept their jobs this year, despite the undeniable evidence that they both suck. Now they have to cut one of the best corners in the history of the franchise to make room for Andy Dalton.... find me someone who thinks this is a good swap. I want to know who I never can trust with a football opinion ever again Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted March 19, 2021 4 hours ago, lesjroza said:  The Bears have been killed by a GM trying to cover his blunder of not only choosing Trubisky but using extra draft capital to get him, then making blunder after blunder trying to cover the previous blunders............. continually trading more future draft capital and allocating cap space poorly with reckless abandon. They have Dalton because that is who they could afford. They have to cut players who are viable because they don't have the space. I hope everyone is enjoying that trade for Kalil Mack which was all about GM shot to save his job for a couple of more years even though he knew Trubisky could never get it done at that point (yeah they knew, they watched him in practice every day) plus trading away any chance a future GM would have of replacing Trubisky while giving Mack a market contract that not even Gruden was willing to................those couple of years where the Bears looked like a rising team were a castle built on sand and it really was clear at the time to anyone who looked beyond the headlines. It's not Trubisky's fault that he's not superman BTW, it's all about Ryan Pace, worst capital allocator I've ever seen bar none, but heh, you can get yourself GM of the year if you are willing to go all in with someone else' money and f$ck the future for every body else. Sorry, had to get that off my chest.        I would have kept Trib over Dalton. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted March 28, 2021 On 3/18/2021 at 10:14 PM, lesjroza said:  The Bears have been killed by a GM trying to cover his blunder of not only choosing Trubisky but using extra draft capital. The team is a very good team. Shows what happens when you mess up on QB. I think Trubisky will make a nice living for himself at the very least. He came out after freshmen or sophmore year right? Didn't have the grooming although many teams thought highly of him. If he would have been in a similar situation like Rodgers sitting on the bench behind Favre for years, who knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted March 28, 2021 8 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: The team is a very good team. Shows what happens when you mess up on QB. I think Trubisky will make a nice living for himself at the very least. He came out after freshmen or sophmore year right? Didn't have the grooming although many teams thought highly of him. If he would have been in a similar situation like Rodgers sitting on the bench behind Favre for years, who knows? it can still happen, but it is also possible hes been ruined too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted March 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Ray_T said: it can still happen, but it is also possible hes been ruined too. And possible he was just never THAT good in the first place. A lot more guys HAVE potential than REACH their potential. He's a solid backup quality journeyman NFL QB, but it's sad to see the QBs on the board when he was picked... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted March 29, 2021 18 hours ago, AxeElf said: And possible he was just never THAT good in the first place. A lot more guys HAVE potential than REACH their potential. He's a solid backup quality journeyman NFL QB, but it's sad to see the QBs on the board when he was picked... It's sad to see Watson going thru his crap. May not have been a great pick after all. Who knows? But also, there were a lot of teams that passed on those later QBs. There were questions about all of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 1,652 Posted April 11, 2021 On 3/28/2021 at 3:16 PM, Utilit99 said: The team is a very good team. Shows what happens when you mess up on QB. I think Trubisky will make a nice living for himself at the very least. He came out after freshmen or sophmore year right? Didn't have the grooming although many teams thought highly of him. If he would have been in a similar situation like Rodgers sitting on the bench behind Favre for years, who knows? A player has to be out of high school for 3 years before they can be drafted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted April 12, 2021 On 3/28/2021 at 4:16 PM, Utilit99 said: I think Trubisky will make a nice living for himself at the very least. He came out after freshmen or sophmore year right? He played sparingly in his first 2 seasons... he only was the regular starter for 1 season. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/mitch-trubisky-1/gamelog/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted April 12, 2021 36 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: He played sparingly in his first 2 seasons... he only was the regular starter for 1 season. https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/mitch-trubisky-1/gamelog/ The guy has all the tools. I think most teams liked him when he came out. Either it was the Bears crappy coaching or he was simply not ready yet I don't know. He's on a great team as a backup to Allen though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted April 12, 2021 23 hours ago, Utilit99 said: The guy has all the tools. I think most teams liked him when he came out. Either it was the Bears crappy coaching or he was simply not ready yet I don't know. He's on a great team as a backup to Allen though. It's only 1 year though. Personally, I think Trubisky really did himself a disservice by signing in Buffalo. He's never going to get snaps, barring an injury and he probably shouldn't be getting any anyways. Think about it, you have Atlanta, Philadelphia, Detroit, San Francisco, Carolina, Tampa, New England, Tennessee, Pittsburgh, and Las Vegas who all have QB's who are 1 to 2 years away from moving on from their current QB. He should have signed a 2 year deal and go to any one of those teams and sit behind their guy and learn and develop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted April 12, 2021 I think he made an excellent move going to the Bills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted April 13, 2021 18 hours ago, weepaws said: I think he made an excellent move going to the Bills. Never playing and cashing a paycheck? I guess an argument can be made for that. Not a good career move though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted April 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Never playing and cashing a paycheck? I guess an argument can be made for that. Not a good career move though. You can prove that it’s not a good career move? you don’t know how it’s going to play out. N  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted April 13, 2021 12 minutes ago, weepaws said: You can prove that it’s not a good career move, you don’t know how it’s going to play out. N Well, it's a bad one if he wants to be a starter someday. He might have a long career as a backup. I just didn't think that's what he was looking for. I'm guessing he had to settle for this deal. As I mentioned in a earlier post, there's about a third of the leagues teams that he could have gone to and be a backup (and potential starter in the near future), but he didn't sign with any of them. My guess is because those teams didn't want him. If he wants a team like that to be interested in him next season, taking a backup role where he's unlikely to take a snap, isn't really a good idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted April 13, 2021 1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said: Well, it's a bad one if he wants to be a starter someday. He might have a long career as a backup. I just didn't think that's what he was looking for. I'm guessing he had to settle for this deal. As I mentioned in a earlier post, there's about a third of the leagues teams that he could have gone to and be a backup (and potential starter in the near future), but he didn't sign with any of them. My guess is because those teams didn't want him. If he wants a team like that to be interested in him next season, taking a backup role where he's unlikely to take a snap, isn't really a good idea. Do you recall some Qb named N Foles, one never knows, back up Qb , to super bowl hero. Lets not forget. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,117 Posted April 13, 2021 2 hours ago, weepaws said: Do you recall some Qb named N Foles, one never knows, back up Qb , to super bowl hero. Lets not forget. Amen. Yeah, let's also not forget what the two QB's were before their new teams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted April 13, 2021 Doesn’t mean it couldn’t get better, he’s going to be on a much better team,  and one never knows what’s going to happen. Very good move for him. Amen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted April 14, 2021 honestly Daltons stats were solid up to the point where the line went to crap.  The LT got signed away and they never replaced him.  After that Dalton became more inconsistent as a QB. I think in a better situation hes serviceable.  But at this point in his career, he needs a line that is no worse than adequate..  if it is below average or poor, Dalton may not be what you want him to be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted April 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, Ray_T said: honestly Daltons stats were solid up to the point where the line went to crap.  The LT got signed away and they never replaced him.  After that Dalton became more inconsistent as a QB. I think in a better situation hes serviceable.  But at this point in his career, he needs a line that is no worse than adequate..  if it is below average or poor, Dalton may not be what you want him to be. He’s going to be the Qb of a team that lacks playmakers at this moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted April 14, 2021 Just now, weepaws said: He’s going to be the Qb of a team that lacks playmakers at this moment. maybe so.  and that may be a problem.  Even if they draft a WR with an early pick, its probably a full year until hes ready for primetime. not saying it cant happen, but most WR's take at least a year after they are drafted before breaking out.  This is probably a realistic assumption. That being said, with this offense if he puts up serviceable numbers, hes done his job. Not sure what the bears plans are here but its generally not been a good place for offensive players to go.   The offense has lacked here for a very long time.  I cant blame Dalton for signing here. In his position, if they give you a chance to start, hes wise to take it as he may not get another chance anywhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted April 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Ray_T said: maybe so.  and that may be a problem.  Even if they draft a WR with an early pick, its probably a full year until hes ready for primetime. not saying it cant happen, but most WR's take at least a year after they are drafted before breaking out.  This is probably a realistic assumption. That being said, with this offense if he puts up serviceable numbers, hes done his job. Not sure what the bears plans are here but its generally not been a good place for offensive players to go.   The offense has lacked here for a very long time.  I cant blame Dalton for signing here. In his position, if they give you a chance to start, hes wise to take it as he may not get another chance anywhere else. I agree about that, Dalton wants to start, and he found a team that wants him to be their starter.  When comes to ff, not going to be worthy of much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 591 Posted April 15, 2021 On 4/13/2021 at 8:37 PM, weepaws said: I agree about that, Dalton wants to start, and he found a team that wants him to be their starter.  When comes to ff, not going to be worthy of much. depends on your league. in leagues where you only start 1 QB hes worthless. but I can see him having value in any superflex or leagues starting 2 QB. Then again in those leagues any QB who is expected to play gets rostered so the bar is kinda low. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,460 Posted April 15, 2021 I’ll probably pick him up once or twice next season, I draft one Qb and it’s late, I like playing matchups with Qb. Just like tes and kickers Nd def. , same difference. So I don’t think he’ll be drafted, so I might start him sometime during the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites