HTH 67 Posted April 6, 2021 I just got my first Moderna shot, but I was hoping for a Pfizer. Questions: Are they both comparable in terms of efficacy? Side Effects? TIA Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dain11279 927 Posted April 6, 2021 Hard to tell, I've only had one of them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted April 6, 2021 It depends. Seems like everyone reacts differently. My wife had pfizer and had zero side effects. My neighbor had a migraine for a day and was cool I had Moderna and had some side effects but nothing terrible. One of my employees had a migraine for a week. Other coworkers had no issue. Depends on your roll of the dice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kopy 489 Posted April 6, 2021 What's the difference between those 2, and the Johnson & Johnson vaccine? How come it's 2 doses of Moderna and Pfizer, but only 1 from Johnson & Johnson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,799 Posted April 6, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kopy said: What's the difference between those 2, and the Johnson & Johnson vaccine? How come it's 2 doses of Moderna and Pfizer, but only 1 from Johnson & Johnson? J&J isn't mRNA https://www.statnews.com/2021/02/02/comparing-the-covid-19-vaccines-developed-by-pfizer-moderna-and-johnson-johnson/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted April 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kopy said: What's the difference between those 2, and the Johnson & Johnson vaccine? How come it's 2 doses of Moderna and Pfizer, but only 1 from Johnson & Johnson? My understanding is the J&J is an actual vaccine. Unlike the mRNA moderna/pfizer shots. J&J is less effective 70% protection vs 90% after the second shot. I've read they are researching if J&J should be two shots. There's a lot more so DYOR Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,799 Posted April 6, 2021 Also some new numbers saying even 1 shot of Pfizer or Moderna is 80% effective - https://nypost.com/2021/03/29/cdc-study-reveals-effectiveness-of-single-pfizer-moderna-dose/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Voltaire 46 Posted April 6, 2021 43 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: My understanding is the J&J is an actual vaccine. Unlike the mRNA moderna/pfizer shots. An mRNA vaccine is not actually a vaccine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,190 Posted April 6, 2021 It seems that the state run sites in AZ have Pfizer so that is most of what I’ve seen, and I’ve seen very few adverse reactions to the Pfizer (I’ve got the second shot on Thursday). I know a few people, some from other states, who had Moderna and had worse reactions. It seems with all 3, regardless of “effectiveness,” they virtually eliminate hospital stays. Which is the important thing — it doesn’t matter as much if you get it as you don’t get it bad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 6, 2021 They're all poison. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,379 Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Mrs. Voltaire said: An mRNA vaccine is not actually a vaccine? From some of the reading I've done no it's not a vaccine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted April 6, 2021 55 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: They're all poison. And now it comes with a booster shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, Mrs. Voltaire said: An mRNA vaccine is not actually a vaccine? Vaccines are related to the immune system. mRNA is a genetic therapy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 543 Posted April 6, 2021 Both Pfizer and Moderna use the same mRNA technology. In fact, I've been told the mRNA is identical between the two. Moderna just uses more of it per dose (100ug vs. 30ug for Pfizer). Moderna uses a different lipid nanoparticle than Pfizer, which allows their's to be shipped and stored at standard freezer temps, vs Pfizer's ultra cold requirements. They're supposedly the same effectiveness, but it sounds like people do worse with Moderna as far as side effects go. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 6, 2021 1 hour ago, TimmySmith said: Vaccines are related to the immune system. mRNA is a genetic therapy. They were labeled "Vaccines" to give the manufacturers a pass on liability when people start to develop cancer in a few years because if it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted April 6, 2021 1 minute ago, NorthernVike said: They were labeled "Vaccines" to give the manufacturers a pass on liability when people start to develop cancer in a few years because if it. Also open the the door on genetic "immuno"therapy. Basically they are now going to be allowed to go under the hood on all of us, instead of the old method of antibodies. IF there is a conspiracy theory behind Covid, this is it. We are talking trillions of dollars of applications, that Covid opened the door to using. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,799 Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, TimmySmith said: Vaccines are related to the immune system. mRNA is a genetic therapy. It's a vaccine, not gene therapy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thornton Melon 543 Posted April 6, 2021 42 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Also open the the door on genetic "immuno"therapy. Basically they are now going to be allowed to go under the hood on all of us, instead of the old method of antibodies. IF there is a conspiracy theory behind Covid, this is it. We are talking trillions of dollars of applications, that Covid opened the door to using. I assume you meant gene therapy, which predates Covid by 3 years, as far as approved drugs go. Covid possibly opened the door to other mRNA vaccines and medicines, which aren't altering your genes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Voltaire 46 Posted April 6, 2021 3 hours ago, Cdub100 said: From some of the reading I've done no it's not a vaccine. I think you need to read some other stuff, retard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Voltaire 46 Posted April 6, 2021 2 hours ago, TimmySmith said: Vaccines are related to the immune system. mRNA is a genetic therapy. holy sh!t where the fock are you people getting your information. smh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,690 Posted April 6, 2021 Quote Another 62 million Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine doses are in jeopardy at the Baltimore factory that already ruined 15 million doses of the vaccine, according to a report from the New York Times. In February, workers at a factory run by Emergent BioSolutions — a biotech firm that's known for producing anthrax vaccines — unknowingly cross-contaminated roughly 15 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine with AstraZeneca's, permanently ruining the batch, the New York Times first reported. Now 62 million doses of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine that have been made at the factory since have to be checked to ensure they weren't also contaminated, The Times reported. If they are contaminated, they will also have to be thrown out. Rink Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 982 Posted April 7, 2021 It's a vaccine. Don't be uninformed. These vaccines create an immune response to build up Memory cells to mimic actually having gotten the infection so that if in the future the actual virus enters the body, the immune system is ready to fight it off efficiently and quickly. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 6 Posted April 7, 2021 My meat purse itch for week after JJ shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted April 7, 2021 11 hours ago, NorthernVike said: They're all poison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,737 Posted April 7, 2021 51 minutes ago, Gepetto said: It's a vaccine. Don't be uninformed. These vaccines create an immune response to build up Memory cells to mimic actually having gotten the infection so that if in the future the actual virus enters the body, the immune system is ready to fight it off efficiently and quickly. You're immune system does that already Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted April 7, 2021 47 minutes ago, Sandy Loam said: My meat purse itch for week after JJ shot. Is your bean okay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sandy Loam 6 Posted April 7, 2021 25 minutes ago, Mookz said: Is your bean okay? I still hit bean twice daily. Itch help fast climax. Better than husband. He should have sign prenuptial. Or not make fun of me joining his fantasy league. I kick his love buns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Voltaire 46 Posted April 7, 2021 8 hours ago, shorepatrol said: You're immune system does that already So you're an anti-vaxxer? You dont' take any medications? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 2,296 Posted April 7, 2021 Just received my second Pfizer shot today... Hoping that I don't have a reaction like others have had... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 7, 2021 Which little phag has Mrs Voltaire as an alias? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mookz 1,287 Posted April 7, 2021 14 hours ago, Sandy Loam said: I still hit bean twice daily. Itch help fast climax. Better than husband. He should have sign prenuptial. Or not make fun of me joining his fantasy league. I kick his love buns. I understand what you're saying. Well, keep me in mind if you ever want help manipulating that thing. That's all I ask. I'm picturing a whole clockwise/counterclockwise thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Voltaire 46 Posted April 7, 2021 47 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: Which little phag has Mrs Voltaire as an alias? Gutterboy. I was suspended months ago for calling someone retarded. Probably you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Djgb13 2,338 Posted April 7, 2021 Found out it’s not required for PA school right now at least. So I’m not going to get it until it’s been FDA approved and you don’t have to sign a waiver releasing them from liability if you have a reaction or die from it. It astounds me that some businesses are forcing people to get it when it isn’t FDA approved. That’s a lawsuit waiting to happen. Other vaccines have been approved by FDA so they can require those. But the covid vaccine? Nah. Besides, I’ve got type O blood and they are one of the most resistant to covid Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted April 7, 2021 50 minutes ago, Mrs. Voltaire said: Gutterboy. I was suspended months ago for calling someone retarded. Probably you. That esplains alot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted April 7, 2021 Scheduled for my 1st Pfizer shot on Monday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HTH 67 Posted April 7, 2021 I just heard that Fauci got the Moderna vaccine, so that makes me feel better! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,014 Posted April 7, 2021 4 hours ago, posty said: Just received my second Pfizer shot today... Hoping that I don't have a reaction like others have had... Got my 2nd Pfizer on Monday, nada, zip, zilch as far as adverse reactions, so you need to "Be like Mike". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites