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I enjoy looking at the undrafted guys and the late round guys for gems because there always seems to be at least 1 guy that comes out of that UDFA and 6th/7th round pool that become fantasy relevant

Examples would be James Robinson, Allen Lazard, Austin Ekeler, Miles Gaskin, Phillip Lindsey, etc.   There always seems to be someone.

This year I like these guys

Elijah Mitchell - 6th round out of ULALA to SF - Everyone is on Sermon and Moestert with good reason, but if you're going deep, pass on Gallman and take a chance on Mitchell.  He's got speed to burn.  He's pretty big.  He ran that exact same outside zone run scheme in college.  He's actually very similar to Jeff Wilson in my eyes.  I think when Moestert goes down, Mitchell is going to surprise some people. 

Kylin Hill - 7th round pick from Miss St. to GB - He tailed off in his last season with Mississippi St compared to his 2019 season because Mike Leach showed up with the Air Raid offense, so I feel he was a little undervalued coming into the draft based on situation.  He can catch the ball.  He can block.  He's a decent runner. He's got Aaron Jones and AJ Dillon ahead of him, but that's it.  I really started to like him when I saw his play against LSU when he had 150 or so yards receiving.

Kawaan Baker - 7th round pick out of South Alabama  to the Saints - This is partially about opportunity and partially about talent.  TreQuan really hasn't put it together and the rest of the roster is loaded with guys like Baker.  UDFAs and late round picks that never really caught on.  Payton likes big slot receivers and Kawaan could fit that bill.  He actually kind of reminds me of Marquez Colston in that way.

Jonathan Adams - UDFA signed by Detroit out of Arkansas St - He's an absolute beast of a human being. It's weird watching him play even against Power 5 schools because he looks so big next to everyone even though he's only listed at 6'2" 210.  He's got some route running ability for a guy his size, but where he really excels is going up and getting the ball in contested catch situations.  He's a really explosive athlete from what I can tell.   Where he's going to struggle in the NFL is that he doesn't like to sink his hips and make real efficient cuts.  In fact, one thing I didn't really like but I think is fixable is he likes to take what I call negative steps and rise up a lot on his routes, and he half asses it on his blocking sometimes. 

Josh Johnson - UDFA signed by the Seahawks out of ULM - He's a little bit on the smaller side at 5'9" and about 210, but the guy is a good football player.  I saw him stand up an unblocked Florida State defensive lineman, and he has a certain suddenness to his movements.  The Seahawks backfield is crowded, so you can just put him on a watch list and if he ends up making the team over a guy like Alex Collins or Travis Homer, you know he must've impressed the coaches.  Then just keep an eye on the inevitable injuries that come out of the Seattle runningback unit.

Jaret Patterson - UDFA out of Buffalo signed with Washington - He's this little ball of muscle.  And that's the problem.  He's little. He's listed at 5'9" 195, but he's probably more like 5'7".  But damn can this dude break tackles.  He's the guy that put up 8 TDs and 400 yards in a game this year.  He's a good back, but his size will hold him back since even in college he had trouble blocking MAC defenders.  He's not the Darren Sproles type that will catch a ton of passes and he's too small to really carry a heavy load.  I'm just listing him here because I like the way he runs. 

Jermar Jefferson - 7th round pick out of Oregon St. by the lions - I almost didn't put him on this list.  He's the exact opposite of Jaret Patterson.  He popped up on my radar because I think he has a decent opportunity.  They have Swift and Jamaal Williams, so he doesn't have that much in front of him if Swift gets dinged up, but he's just not what I would consider an NFL runningback.  No burst.  No acceleration.  Top end speed isn't really there and for a decent size guy he has terrible balance.  With all that being said, if he ends up as number 3 on the depth chart, he does have this one cut and go style that would make him consistent.  He just won't make any play beyond what is blocked from what I can tell.

 

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Of those 7 guys you listed. I absolutely loooooooove one of those guys. And i also really, really like another.

Gotta stay on the down low though. I might have fellow owner's watching. :ninja:

 

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Any Shanahan rb involves a risk of over-hype to go along with the possibility.

And as a 9ers fan I have to grudgingly respect the Seahawk backfield, revolving door that it is, because there always seem to be a couple of surprise games each year from RBs you never heard of.

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https://www.hogshaven.com/2021/6/14/22531910/three-winners-one-loser-from-washington-otas-and-minicamp

Jaret Patterson getting a little love.  Of course, the short shifty guy should look great in non-contact drills, so this isn't a reason to go grab him, but at least he's doing what he's supposed to be doing.  I read a report out that he spent the offseason training to run routes and catch the ball and it looks like it paid off.

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Running backs coach Randy Jordan said that the team is excited about UDFA Jaret Patterson, saying that he’s showing a good ability to catch the ball out of the backfield and run, which is something they hadn’t seen initially on tape. A huge key for Patterson, said Jordan, is his ability to develop as a pass protector if he wants to get on the field in games.

But now that this is out there, Patterson is the type of guy that will go use his time off between mini-camp and training camp to hire a coach and work on his pass protection.  The only question is going to be is he physically able to stand up in protection.

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After Gibson and Mckissic there isn’t much left, I think mr Patterson is going to have a job in the nfl. 

Thanks for the article. 

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Larry Rountree III, RB - Los Angeles Chargers.  None of the RB's on that roster are anything special, with the exception of Ekeler.  Even still, Ekeler isn't really a bell cow, but a pass catcher who rushes because every other RB on that roster is mediocre.  In 2019, when Ekeler played the whole season, he only saw 57% of the snaps.  Last year, he was only able to play 10 games.  At this moment, he looks like a guy who's primary usage is as a pass catcher and occasional runner.  Roundtree has the size and quickness for the NFL and stick as a 1st and 2nd down runner.  His game compliments Ekeler because he's not much of a pass catcher, and he's pretty decent at blocking, so when passing on 1st or 2nd down, he's still a viable back to pair with Ekeler in the backfield to create doubt for the defense.  If he addresses and improves on his weaknesses, he could be the starting RB getting the bulk of the carries in 2022. 

My guess is that right now in fantasy drafts, he's free.

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Rhamondre Stevenson if I was in a keeper type league I would look at this rb.  

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I like nobody's pick on RB Elijah Mitchell. Mostert has had some injury issues of late and with Shanhan's system he won't be a bell cow. Sermon, IMO, is clearly the #2 guy and he could possibly supplant Mostert at some point. If Mostert.start to have health issues I could see Mitchell getting some opportunity. He could be.the #3 option over Gallman. Good possibility if Mostert goes down it'll be Sermon and Mitchell splitting with Mitchell maybe getting.30% of carries. Shanahan will play the.hot hand so I like Sermon's upside this year and Mitchell would be a bonus making the 2 a decent duo.

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What happens when J Wilson returns ? 

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He'll likely be on the PUP until they need him is my guess.  He's probably not going to play until week 8 at the earliest.  By then the players that are going to step up will likely have had a chance to step up.

If he somehow makes the active roster, that means the rookies must suck pretty bad.

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Thank you. 

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Couple other guys I like along with.Mitxhell are:

Jaret Patterson(Wash)- McKissic was serviceable behind Gibson last year but I can see Patterson possibly passing McKissic giving the Wash. Football team a spark. He'll end up with more carries than McKissic.

Javian Hawkins(Atl)- I think Mike Davis is bland but serviceable in a lead backrole. Not much else other depth chart for Atlanta so I think Hawkins gets a decent shot in training camp and a fair amount of carries during the season.

Larry Rountree(LAC)- Maybe it's me but I'm just not excited about Jackson or Kelly. By mid-season Rountree will surpass the two and be Ekeler's backup.

 

 

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1 hour ago, DocNiner said:

Couple other guys I like along with.Mitxhell are:

Jaret Patterson(Wash)- McKissic was serviceable behind Gibson last year but I can see Patterson possibly passing McKissic giving the Wash. Football team a spark. He'll end up with more carries than McKissic.

Javian Hawkins(Atl)- I think Mike Davis is bland but serviceable in a lead backrole. Not much else other depth chart for Atlanta so I think Hawkins gets a decent shot in training camp and a fair amount of carries during the season.

Larry Rountree(LAC)- Maybe it's me but I'm just not excited about Jackson or Kelly. By mid-season Rountree will surpass the two and be Ekeler's backup.

 

 

Agreed, good job. 

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Semi Fehoko for the Cowboys.

He's a late round sleeper at WR.

He's huge, 6'4 227lbs. yet still had an athleticism score of 91. At that size, that puts him in the same category as Calvin Johnson, Julio Jones, and DK Metcalf.

He's still pretty raw and may not produce much as a rookie, but it's clear he was drafted with the idea he could take over Michael Gallup's role next season.

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