Why are officers who responded to Jan 6 insurrection committing suicide?

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

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That's an easy part for democrats to conveniently leave out of their "logic".

[Gladiators 2,035]

2 hours ago, Fireballer said:

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Did he miss that part, or did you just make it up?

[Hawkeye21 2,457]

1 minute ago, Gladiators said:

Did he miss that part, or did you just make it up?

Miss what?

[posty 2,837]

I haven't read anything in this thread, but it is kind of upsetting that people get to a point that they think suicide is the only answer...

[Fireballer 2,690]

 

[Baker Boy 1,710]

The FBI was in on this from the beginning. From planning stages to execution. This happens all the time and has been going on since it’s inception. There is no reason to believe local police were involved too. The same thing is true of the “foiled” Witmer kidnapping in Michigan.

[wiffleball 4,797]

9 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

The FBI was in on this from the beginning. From planning stages to execution. This happens all the time and has been going on since it’s inception. There is no reason to believe local police were involved too. The same thing is true of the “foiled” Witmer kidnapping in Michigan.

Flocking loon

[Baker Boy 1,710]

10 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Flocking loon

Sorry, it is documented. Open your eyes.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,993]

A Pentagon police officer was stabbed to death this morning. RIP to the officer and prayers for his family. 

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6 hours ago, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

Perhaps I'm ignorant. I freely admit that may be the case.

Might I ask for a link to this firebrand rhetoric? Must have been some truly hitleresque stuff. Video or print is fine.

And the fact that you think I'm down the rabbit hole shows how far you are.

I don't defend these clowns. Every focking one should do time.

But it was a focking riot. Not an “insurrection.”

President Trump specifically said "peacefully and patriotically make our voices heard." 

Clearly that's dogwhistle for insurrection.

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5 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Fixored

 

[Hawkeye21 2,457]

14 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

President Trump specifically said "peacefully and patriotically make our voices heard." 

Clearly that's dogwhistle for insurrection.

Doesn't seem like his supporters heard him or they didn't care that he said it.  They were already worked up from everything else he said.

Regardless, it wasn't Trump's fault these psychos stormed the capitol.  I think he contributed to getting them riled up but people are responsible for their own actions.

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21 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Doesn't seem like his supporters heard him or they didn't care that he said it.  They were already worked up from everything else he said.

Regardless, it wasn't Trump's fault these psychos stormed the capitol.  I think he contributed to getting them riled up but people are responsible for their own actions.

Regardless, he made a point of using the word "peacefully." For hacks to then claim that he was instigating an insurrection is beyond retarded. 

Firing up a crowd is a far cry from instigating an insurrection. 

[wiffleball 4,797]

18 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Regardless, he made a point of using the word "peacefully." For hacks to then claim that he was instigating an insurrection is beyond retarded. 

Firing up a crowd is a far cry from instigating an insurrection. 

If you're trying at all, you are being god awfully selective.

 

If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore'

[wiffleball 4,797]

Pretty sure the line of demarcation for a riot versus Insurrection is literally actually and physically building a Gallows to hang the vice president of the United States and sitting senators.

 

That wasn't a f****** metaphor.

[Baker Boy 1,710]

19 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

If you're trying at all, you are being god awfully selective.

 

If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore'

I know your pain, I know your hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now, we have to have peace, we have to have law and order, we have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us. From me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So, go home. We love you, you’re very special. You’ve seen what happens, you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home, and go home in peace.”
Donald Trump

[Utilit99 4,099]

14 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

If you're trying at all, you are being god awfully selective.

 

If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore'

 

[Baker Boy 1,710]

32 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

If you're trying at all, you are being god awfully selective.

 

If you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore'

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan

[wiffleball 4,797]

19 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

I know your pain, I know your hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us. It was a landslide election and everyone knows it, especially the other side. But you have to go home now, we have to have peace, we have to have law and order, we have to respect our great people in law and order. We don’t want anybody hurt. It’s a very tough period of time. There’s never been a time like this where such a thing happened where they could take it away from all of us. From me, from you, from our country. This was a fraudulent election, but we can’t play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. So, go home. We love you, you’re very special. You’ve seen what happens, you see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil. I know how you feel. But go home, and go home in peace.”
Donald Trump

Timing on this please? 

 

You do know that Trump refused to provide any backup for these officers,  right?  Members of his own cabinet were begging for it and he sat on his fat ass loving every minute of the chaos.

[wiffleball 4,797]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free. Ronald Reagan

And how many people tried to hang Vice President Bush?

[Baker Boy 1,710]

18 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Timing on this please? 

 

You do know that Trump refused to provide any backup for these officers,  right?  Members of his own cabinet were begging for it and he sat on his fat ass loving every minute of the chaos.

WASHINGTON (AP) — Three days before supporters of President Donald Trump rioted at the Capitol, the Pentagon asked the U.S Capitol Police if it needed National Guard manpower. And as the mob descended on the building Wednesday, Justice Department leaders reached out to offer up FBI agents. The police turned them down both times.

https://apnews.com/article/capitol-police-reject-federal-help-9c39a4ddef0ab60a48828a07e4d03380

‘Like I said, this was set up my the FBI.

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22 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Timing on this please? 

 

You do know that Trump refused to provide any backup for these officers,  right?  Members of his own cabinet were begging for it and he sat on his fat ass loving every minute of the chaos.

Security for the House is the responsibility of the House Sergeant at Arms, who reports to Nancy Pelosi. She could have requested reinforcements at any time. 

[wiffleball 4,797]

9 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Security for the House is the responsibility of the House Sergeant at Arms, who reports to Nancy Pelosi. She could have requested reinforcements at any time. 

Whoops.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/

 

But end of the day, I don't think anybody ever foresaw an ex reality star living in denial exhorting his followers to go kill the vice president.

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15 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Whoops.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/

 

But end of the day, I don't think anybody ever foresaw an ex reality star living in denial exhorting his followers to go kill the vice president.

Capitol security is provided by the sergeants-at-arms , who are the chief law enforcement officers for the House and Senate, in coordination with the Capitol Police, a federal law enforcement agency.

The House sergeant-at-arms reports to the speaker of the House, or Pelosi at the time of the attack.

Whoops

 

[Utilit99 4,099]

9 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Whoops.

 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/07/27/fact-check-nancy-pelosi-isnt-in-charge-capitol-police/8082088002/

 

But end of the day, I don't think anybody ever foresaw an ex reality star living in denial exhorting his followers to go kill the vice president.

Or even a drunk poster on this site pretending Trump is out to get him.

[wiffleball 4,797]

20 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Or even a drunk poster on this site pretending Trump is out to get him.

Trump is out to get rich off you rubes, period. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,993]

14 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Trump is out to get rich off you rubes, period. 

Richer. You guys are more concerned with a billionaire businessman who came into office and left a billionaire than you are with politicians who enter office with nothing and leave as multi millionaires. Like President-ish Biden. 

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20 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Trump is out to get rich off you rubes, period. 

Well he did serve the country for free for four years. Can't blame him for trying to recoup some of his losses. 

With any luck, he'll be able to buy a big ass mansion in  Martha's Vineyard. 

[titans&bucs&bearsohmy! 2,745]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Richer. You guys are more concerned with a billionaire businessman who came into office and left a billionaire than you are a politician who enters office with nothing and leaves a multi millionaire. 

All speculation of course. You have no idea what trumps worth was when he entered, or what it is now. He could have entered in debt to God knows who and left a billionaire for all we know. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,993]

Just now, titans&bucs&bearsohmy! said:

All speculation of course. You have no idea what trumps worth was when he entered, or what it is now. He could have entered in debt to God knows who and left a billionaire for all we know. 

I think we have some idea. They did shove a flashlight up his ass and found nothing. If they had him, we would know 

[wiffleball 4,797]

2 minutes ago, 5-Points said:

Well he did serve the country for free for four years. Can't blame him for trying to recoup some of his losses. 

With any luck, he'll be able to buy a big ass mansion in  Martha's Vineyard. 

He stole 26 million from the Inaugural Committee before even moved in. I think he got compensated.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,993]

Just now, wiffleball said:

He stole 26 million from the Inaugural Committee before even moved in. I think he got compensated.

Right. So they let him slide on that I guess. 

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9 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

He stole 26 million from the Inaugural Committee before even moved in. I think he got compensated.

Stole? 

IMPEACH! 

[wiffleball 4,797]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I think we have some idea. They did shove a flashlight up his ass and found nothing. If they had him, we would know 

Actually, we're going to know. If you actually watched any news instead of just hang out at news Max and here, you would know that this week they authorized the release of Trumps tax returns. Going to be a Humdinger of a month. 

[wiffleball 4,797]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Right. So they let him slide on that I guess. 

Actually being prosecuted. You really should educate yourself.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,993]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

Actually being prosecuted. You really should educate yourself.

By who? 

[wiffleball 4,797]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

By who? 

Seriously dude. You should see my notification page. When one guy alone fills multiple pages in a single day responding? Get a life.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,993]

10 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Seriously dude. You should see my notification page. When one guy alone fills multiple pages in a single day responding? Get a life.

Answer the question man. 

[Baker Boy 1,710]

12 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Seriously dude. You should see my notification page. When one guy alone fills multiple pages in a single day responding? Get a life.

And it is HT for the win.

[wiffleball 4,797]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

And it is HT for the win.

You say so....