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Cdub100
Cdub100

Let's not lose the bigger picture here. Sure thousands of people are literally dying, a major crysis at the boarder, no Covid plan other than get the jab, the president is compromised by both Russia a

Utilit99
Utilit99

That's your thing at 5am every day leaving me 30 of them after you look up all my posts.  You are a typical liberal. You get called out for something, then you turn around and accuse others of th

Cdub100
Cdub100

While I agree with most of you we shouldn't have ever gone there. The fact is we did and we were there for 20 years. We can't change that. American men and women gave their blood sweat and lives

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DonS

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1 hour ago, KSB2424 said:

The Biden Administration is worried about Diversity in Afghanistan.  😂 

This is a real life headline. 

 

OMG!!!   Who woulda ever thought the Taliban wouldn't have women in their govt?  :shocking:

 

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TimmySmith

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10 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

The Biden Administration is worried about Diversity in Afghanistan.  😂 

This is a real life headline. 

 

"The Taliban then pointed at Tliab and Omar as examples and the State department backed down."

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Masshole

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Probably a long shot, but I could see a way that Biden kinda skates away from this.     

After spending 20 yrs hiding in caves and eating sh!t, the Taliban is looking around a thinking: "take over, shake down US/NATO/Etc for whatever $ we can get.    Hostages, 'we'll try to be part of the international community', and whatever.   Just pay us cash for it."   All lip service but they toss the west enough crumbs to keep them off their back and still shoveling that sweet $ at them.   Then they just rake in $ from poppies, selling Iranians and Chinese US gear, China gives them a billion dollars to mine their country.  Whatever, just pay cash.    Then they just go "full Saudi".  Pray to Allah and kneel towards Mecca a couple of times a day to keep the fundies off of them.   Then they live  like kings, stack $ in Swiss bank accounts, and probably do a bunch of things that Mohamed wouldn't like but no one can see.   

2 years from now Biden admin is actually using Afghanistan as an example of "Biden's foreign policy expertise" as he runs for re-election because it hasn't turned into a total terrorist sh!thole.    Meanwhile heroine overdoses are up 20% around the world and no one seems to know why.     The Taliban is starting to fidget because some of their not really cool with Allah extracurricular activities  are leaking out.   So they start stirring up the fundies and a few teens willing to die for Allah to take the heat off of them.   And we lather, rinse, and repeat somewhere about 5-10 yrs down the road and we're wondering why they are attacking us.  This would be, of course,  after this admin is gone or near gone.

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Brad GLuckman

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1 hour ago, Masshole said:

Probably a long shot, but I could see a way that Biden kinda skates away from this.     

After spending 20 yrs hiding in caves and eating sh!t, the Taliban is looking around a thinking: "take over, shake down US/NATO/Etc for whatever $ we can get.    Hostages, 'we'll try to be part of the international community', and whatever.   Just pay us cash for it."   All lip service but they toss the west enough crumbs to keep them off their back and still shoveling that sweet $ at them.   Then they just rake in $ from poppies, selling Iranians and Chinese US gear, China gives them a billion dollars to mine their country.  Whatever, just pay cash.    Then they just go "full Saudi".  Pray to Allah and kneel towards Mecca a couple of times a day to keep the fundies off of them.   Then they live  like kings, stack $ in Swiss bank accounts, and probably do a bunch of things that Mohamed wouldn't like but no one can see.   

2 years from now Biden admin is actually using Afghanistan as an example of "Biden's foreign policy expertise" as he runs for re-election because it hasn't turned into a total terrorist sh!thole.    Meanwhile heroine overdoses are up 20% around the world and no one seems to know why.     The Taliban is starting to fidget because some of their not really cool with Allah extracurricular activities  are leaking out.   So they start stirring up the fundies and a few teens willing to die for Allah to take the heat off of them.   And we lather, rinse, and repeat somewhere about 5-10 yrs down the road and we're wondering why they are attacking us.  This would be, of course,  after this admin is gone or near gone.

Biden is banking on people just being happy in a few years that we are out of Afghanistan, regardless of how messy it was. People have short memories and I would bet he will be right. Everyone wanted out. If the place turns into a disaster, people will be happy we are no longer a part of it. If not, people will see it as something that shouldve happened sooner.

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KSB2424

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55 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

Biden is banking on people just being happy in a few years that we are out of Afghanistan, regardless of how messy it was. People have short memories and I would bet he will be right. Everyone wanted out. If the place turns into a disaster, people will be happy we are no longer a part of it. If not, people will see it as something that shouldve happened sooner.

You give to much credit. As if he’s thinking at all. 

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Cdub100

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They don't care.

https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2021/09/08/exclusive-rep-nancy-mace-all-house-democrats-voted-against-survey-of-weapons-left-in-afghanistan/

Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) noted on Wednesday’s edition of SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Daily with host Alex Marlow that every Democrat on the House Oversight Committee voted against her proposal to survey the equipment and weapons abandoned in Afghanistan by the Biden administration.

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JustinCharge

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11 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said:

Biden is banking on people just being happy in a few years that we are out of Afghanistan, regardless of how messy it was. People have short memories and I would bet he will be right. Everyone wanted out. If the place turns into a disaster, people will be happy we are no longer a part of it. If not, people will see it as something that shouldve happened sooner.

according to the liberal playbook, we start erecting memorials to remind everyone of how shameful the democrats are, make a holiday for it, etc.

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Cdub100

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13 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

And still…nothing will come from this. 😢 

Not to worry. They got this guy.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/stuartscheller-taliban-marines-gagorder/2021/09/27/id/1038149/

The Marine who had spoken out in August against the Biden administration's senior military leadership over the unconditional Afghanistan withdrawal was jailed by the Marine Corps on Monday morning for violating a gag order with a social media post over the weekend.

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Brad GLuckman

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2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Not to worry. They got this guy.

https://www.newsmax.com/us/stuartscheller-taliban-marines-gagorder/2021/09/27/id/1038149/

The Marine who had spoken out in August against the Biden administration's senior military leadership over the unconditional Afghanistan withdrawal was jailed by the Marine Corps on Monday morning for violating a gag order with a social media post over the weekend.

I'm not surprised, the military is very clear on this. He was rightfully charged.

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Cdub100

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6 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

I'm not surprised, the military is very clear on this. He was rightfully charged.

You're not wrong it's just sad he's the only one who will get into any trouble.

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Utilit99

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10 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said:

I'm not surprised, the military is very clear on this. He was rightfully charged.

And your hero creepy joey will skate free after killing a couple dozen people directly and ultimately leaving behind thousands of American citizens and thousands of allies that have been helping the US for years. Go ahead and celebrate.

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Brad GLuckman

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45 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

And your hero creepy joey will skate free after killing a couple dozen people directly and ultimately leaving behind thousands of American citizens and thousands of allies that have been helping the US for years. Go ahead and celebrate.

Biden is a moron and botched the Afghanistan withdrawl more than any random poster on this board would have. Hes completely incompetent. That doesnt change the fact that there are rules in the military. I agree with everything this guy said, but as a member of the military, he can be charged for saying it.

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fandandy

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It's the same thing with Covid.  I called it nearly instantly.  Most here are really stupid and that disappoints me.  

I hate to daily take part in conversing with a group of really stupid people.

When I say try harder.  This is what I mean.  Try to be less stupid.

Please and thank you.

 

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Masshole

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Yes, I see that the IG also trashes Trump admin in this report.    But for those of you who said "it was always going to end this badly". . . 

 

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seafoam1

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On 8/15/2021 at 11:32 AM, IGotWorms said:

Wow that collapsed quickly.

Sending some 5,000 troops, to ensure an orderly withdrawal I guess?

Thoughts?

biden killed 13 service members and doomed hundreds of US assets to the same fate by leaving them abandoned there. 

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SaintsInDome2006

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

cool we should get our stuff back and punish those who killed our men

 

Just spitballin here but hey we *could’ve stayed, kept the stuff, & supported our allies, & held the base that was a valuable national security asset that cost countless lives & treasure. 

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2 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Just spitballin here but hey we *could’ve stayed, kept the stuff, & supported our allies, & held the base that was a valuable national security asset that cost countless lives & treasure. 

we could have, or we could have followed the original plan, or we could have come up with a new one that would have been smart

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SaintsInDome2006

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5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

we could have, or we could have followed the original plan, or we could have come up with a new one that would have been smart

Eh we signed a deal with the Taliban directly & it was for total withdrawal. Pompeo handled it personally & Trump spoke with Baradar. Btw NATO helped us take AFG last time, That ain’t happening if we do it again.

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RaiderHaters Revenge

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8 minutes ago, SaintsInDome2006 said:

Eh we signed a deal with the Taliban directly & it was for total withdrawal. Pompeo handled it personally & Trump spoke with Baradar. Btw NATO helped us take AFG last time, That ain’t happening if we do it again.

and we didn't follow that plan, the pull out happened out of the blue overnight without the proper forces to support it

I have no problem with the total pullout, but Biden couldn't follow the plan cuz OMB

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SaintsInDome2006

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11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

and we didn't follow that plan, the pull out happened out of the blue overnight without the proper forces to support it

I have no problem with the total pullout, but Biden couldn't follow the plan cuz OMB

The original plan was much more sudden, IIRC it got delayed once under Trump (we were supposed to be out by the election) & then once again under Biden in the spring. I really don’t know how it could’ve been done without sending in more troops, then firefights would happen, then we’d be faced with a full on surge. Then we could send in more troops or just repeat the same situation.

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SaintsInDome2006

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>>The Taliban know what year it is, and they know the U.S. forces will be coming out ahead of the U.S. presidential election. They’re wagering that this administration, which seeks to point to this agreement in the months ahead as evidence of keeping a campaign promise, will be extremely reluctant to walk away from this agreement or come back in over local violations. They have the U.S. exactly where they’ve wanted us, but to where they couldn’t maneuver previous administrations. The Taliban are many things: drug dealers, violent abusers of women, and terrorists. But there’s one thing they are not: stupid.<<

3/5/20

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