January 6th Insurrection = Complete Bull

[Hardcore troubadour 12,588]

Over charging and out of the norm harsh sentences are most certainly a civil rights issue. It’s the essence of it. 

[thegeneral 1,383]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Over charging and out of the norm harsh sentences are most certainly a civil rights issue. It’s the essence of it. 

He could have gone in the clink for 25 years. Judge helped him out.

[dogcows 1,029]

51 minutes ago, jonmx said:

That is why they have these trials in DC.  No chance of even having a single aperson with even the slightest empathy for him.  It is like a jury in the deep south in the 1950's with a black man accused of raping a white women.  He had no chance. 

Nobody should have any sympathy for these traitors. The sentences should have been longer. Also wanted to point out: the ACTUAL reason the trials were held in DC? Because that’s where these traitors committed their crimes. Duh.

[seafoam1 1,878]

15 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

I wouldn’t compare this dude to some civil rights case in the 50’s, that’s a wild take.

I also wouldn’t make him out to be some victim. Personally don’t view him as subhuman, just an absolute moron and insufferable with his election bullshit. 

 

The irony...

[thegeneral 1,383]

6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

The irony...

Look at Peefoam getting witty!

[nobody 2,031]

2 hours ago, thegeneral said:

What charges that they got this guy on are you upset with?

None.  I'm just addressing the "seems like a long time for a nothingburger" comment.

All these guys are going ng to get a long time because the judges arent going to upset senators on behalf of some goofballs.  

[thegeneral 1,383]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

None.  I'm just addressing the "seems like a long time for a nothingburger" comment.

All these guys are going ng to get a long time because the judges arent going to upset senators on behalf of some goofballs.  

The judge could have put him away for longer though. These are some serious things he was found guilty of. 

This guy is a world class scumbag

 

[jonmx 1,558]

57 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Nobody should have any sympathy for these traitors. The sentences should have been longer. Also wanted to point out: the ACTUAL reason the trials were held in DC? Because that’s where these traitors committed their crimes. Duh.

The only traitors are in the CIA and fascist dipshits who support this flase flag charade.

[jonmx 1,558]

25 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The judge could have put him away for longer though. These are some serious things he was found guilty of. 

This guy is a world class scumbag

 

Really???

- a stint as an Army paratrooper cut short by a training accident

- an Ivy League law degree.

- clerkship on the Arizona Supreme Court

He railed against the Patriot Act, which gave the government greater surveillance powers

Criticized the Bush administration’s use of “enemy combatant” status to indefinitely detain prisoners.

He saw this titanic struggle between people like him who wanted individual liberty and the government

 

What a scumbag....fighting for individual liberty.  That bastard.  Where does he thinks he lives, America?  

[jonmx 1,558]

I seriously don't know what happened to this country.   People ate so easily  brainwashed towards fascism.   It is scary.  

[thegeneral 1,383]

17 minutes ago, jonmx said:

Really???

- a stint as an Army paratrooper cut short by a training accident

- an Ivy League law degree.

- clerkship on the Arizona Supreme Court

He railed against the Patriot Act, which gave the government greater surveillance powers

Criticized the Bush administration’s use of “enemy combatant” status to indefinitely detain prisoners.

He saw this titanic struggle between people like him who wanted individual liberty and the government

 

What a scumbag....fighting for individual liberty.  That bastard.  Where does he thinks he lives, America?  

He whoared out his wife to to pay for his school.

He is a deluded nut bag who wants to overthrow the government.

What a guy!

[thegeneral 1,383]

The Unabomber was an ok guy…he went to Harvard!

[seafoam1 1,878]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The Unabomber was an ok guy…he went to Harvard!

Going to Harvard makes someone an ok guy now. 

Liberals are so stupid. 

[thegeneral 1,383]

3 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

Going to Harvard makes someone an ok guy now. 

Liberals are so stupid. 

Try reading like 4 posts in a row dumbass

[seafoam1 1,878]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Try reading like 4 posts in a row dumbass

You're the una bomber lover. You were a big fan of the 2020 riots too. But OH NO!!! Don't take a selfie!!!! 

[thegeneral 1,383]

6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You're the una bomber lover. You were a big fan of the 2020 riots too. But OH NO!!! Don't take a selfie!!!! 

What a dumbass you are

[seafoam1 1,878]

5 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

What a dumbass you are

Not the SELFIE!!!  

[thegeneral 1,383]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

Not the SELFIE!!!  

Yep this guy was found guilty of taking selfies and I love the unabomber.

You are legal mastermind and can read very well!

[RLLD 3,455]

Just now, thegeneral said:

Yep this guy was found guilty of taking selfies and I love the unabomber.

You are legal mastermind and can read very well!

I am fascinated by the unabomber.  And Chernobyl too.  It's an odd set of fetishes, but I make it work.

[thegeneral 1,383]

5 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I am fascinated by the unabomber.  And Chernobyl too.  It's an odd set of fetishes, but I make it work.

Chernobyl miniseries on HBO was

[nobody 2,031]

Since when do judges even approach max sentences in our overcrowded jails?

[wiffleball 4,631]

I dunno. Got to wonder if it was a bunch of Muslims who Warehouse long guns just outside of the capitol and organized and sent all kinds of emails back and forth admitting to their organization and fully admitting to wanting to disrupt the vote so that  their preferred candidate would win.  You break a lot of capitol windows I don't know if they're that stupid, or that air again. You bet here's a thought, don't f*** with america.

[RLLD 3,455]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Chernobyl miniseries on HBO was

I liked how they started it after the event, leaving all the lead up out of it, and focused on the experiences of the people.

It was fantastically well done. I have watched many documentaries on the topic. And also some of the follow ups with current day tourism.

[thegeneral 1,383]

2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I liked how they started it after the event, leaving all the lead up out of it, and focused on the experiences of the people.

It was fantastically well done. I have watched many documentaries on the topic. And also some of the follow ups with current day tourism.

Def best show I watched for awhile around that time. 

If you haven’t seen this check it out, similar vein: Command and Control

I had never heard about this and heard about it after watching Chernobyl and was down some wikipedia rabbit hole reading about that.

[jonmx 1,558]

1 hour ago, wiffleball said:

I dunno. Got to wonder if it was a bunch of Muslims who Warehouse long guns just outside of the capitol and organized and sent all kinds of emails back and forth admitting to their organization and fully admitting to wanting to disrupt the vote so that  their preferred candidate would win.  You break a lot of capitol windows I don't know if they're that stupid, or that air again. You bet here's a thought, don't f*** with america.

None of that happened.  They never talked about going inside and disrupting the vote.  

[RLLD 3,455]

9 hours ago, thegeneral said:

Def best show I watched for awhile around that time. 

If you haven’t seen this check it out, similar vein: Command and Control

I had never heard about this and heard about it after watching Chernobyl and was down some wikipedia rabbit hole reading about that.

I had not seen this one, wow, thank you sir

[Dizkneelande 839]

general is going off the rails as he juggles complete erosion of our civil liberties with his severe hatred for anyone associated with the name Trump.

[shadrap 117]

1 hour ago, Dizkneelande said:

general is going off the rails as he juggles complete erosion of our civil liberties with his severe hatred for anyone associated with the name Trump.

Yea, he has it bad.  reminds me of Drefus in the Pink Panther.   mention Klusso(Peter Sellers) & he goes off the rails.    DTS is real.  In FBGs, you mention a guy has DTS and you get a time out.  unreal.

[Mike Honcho 4,009]

13 hours ago, jonmx said:

I seriously don't know what happened to this country.   People ate so easily  brainwashed towards fascism.   It is scary.  

 

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Definition of fascism:  fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of both the nation and the single, powerful leader over the individual citizen.

 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 3,566]

55 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

 

good thing there is none of that going on here

[RLLD 3,455]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

 

Agree, the term is widely misused.

I think a far more tangible line can be drawn between the liberals of today and Mao ; Ref: Rink

Mao killed his fair share with catatrophic ideology, the left seem intent to repeat those mistakes.

[The Real timschochet 2,872]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Agree, the term is widely misused.

I think a far more tangible line can be drawn between the liberals of today and Mao ; Ref: Rink

Mao killed his fair share with catatrophic ideology, the left seem intent to repeat those mistakes.

Yes we liberals want to murder millions with out plans for the Great Leap Forward. 
 

Seriously where do you come up with this crap? 

[RLLD 3,455]

Just now, The Real timschochet said:

Yes we liberals want to murder millions with out plans for the Great Leap Forward. 
 

Seriously where do you come up with this crap? 

You are first assuming that is what Mao wanted, in truth he did not.  He simply felt that he knew more than anyone else, and no opposition to his notions of what was true was permitted.  Therefore where opposition arose it was shut down, and people implemented what he wanted.  Of course we can see clearly now that he was clearly wrong, as did sane people then....but again, opposition was suppressed.

The parallel being that Mao thought he could reinvent humanity, and just decide what it was and what was true.  This is the same nonsense espoused by liberals today.

So, setting aside your strawman, we need to understand that while it was the bad ideas that led to the negative outcomes......those ouctomes were secured when smart and sane people who objected were silenced.

[The Real timschochet 2,872]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

You are first assuming that is what Mao wanted, in truth he did not.  He simply felt that he knew more than anyone else, and no opposition to his notions of what was true was permitted.  Therefore where opposition arose it was shut down, and people implemented what he wanted.  Of course we can see clearly now that he was clearly wrong, as did sane people then....but again, opposition was suppressed.

The parallel being that Mao thought he could reinvent humanity, and just decide what it was and what was true.  This is the same nonsense espoused by liberals today.

So, setting aside your strawman, we need to understand that while it was the bad ideas that led to the negative outcomes......those ouctomes were secured when smart and sane people who objected were silenced.

First off Mao was one of the worst mass murderers in history. To attempt to tie him to American politics of any significant stripe is both ridiculous and offensive. 

Second liberals don’t want to reinvent anything. Liberals want a capitalist society with a large safety net, and we want everyone treated with human dignity, including gays and trans, and we want America’s long history of racism acknowledged so that we can work to improve it. We’re not communists, or fascists, or anarchists. In general we like things the way they are. 

[RLLD 3,455]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off Mao was one of the worst mass murderers in history. To attempt to tie him to American politics of any significant stripe is both ridiculous and offensive. 

Second liberals don’t want to reinvent anything. Liberals want a capitalist society with a large safety net, and we want everyone treated with human dignity, including gays and trans, and we want America’s long history of racism acknowledged so that we can work to improve it. We’re not communists, or fascists, or anarchists. In general we like things the way they are. 

Let's talk about that first point.  You mention that being attributed to Maoism is ridiculous and offensive, I will now ask you to then repudiate the linkage of republicans in facism in the same way. Now, there are parallels between the two.  If Mao had not suppressed dissent and allowed for criticism of his pursuits, things may have gone better.  The main reason those people died was that once it was clear the situation was not workable no one said a word, no one dared to challenge.....and that is liberalism today.....

Liberals do want to reinvent the world.  That is part and parcel, progressivism is the push to change and evolve, and conservatism is to instead retain that which is known to work. Pretending that we can magically change our gender, or that white people are the problem, all of this is just farcical nonsense. 

Society has improved and will continue to do so, never achieving "perfection".

But this business of words being violence, and speaking out for what you beleive in is white supremacy or what ever, its a dark place to be......

[Engorgeous George 1,154]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

First off Mao was one of the worst mass murderers in history. To attempt to tie him to American politics of any significant stripe is both ridiculous and offensive. 

Second liberals don’t want to reinvent anything. Liberals want a capitalist society with a large safety net, and we want everyone treated with human dignity, including gays and trans, and we want America’s long history of racism acknowledged so that we can work to improve it. We’re not communists, or fascists, or anarchists. In general we like things the way they are. 

I am all for safety nets.  I oppose dependancy nests, and liberals have been advocating for life long and even generational nests while calling them safety nets.

 

Me, nets not nests!

[jonmx 1,558]

2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

 

Fascism originated with Mussilini.  He defined fascism as being a left-wing collectivistic ideology in opposition to socialism, liberalism, democracy and individualism.

The definition morphs over time for political reason.  Mainly, the modern leftists like to frame fascism into a rightwing only movement based on white supremacy and nationalism.  

There are a lot of different names for different political movements and for the most part they are different in name-only and in reality the end result is of no difference.  You either advance freedom and individual liberties where government powers are strictly limited and controlled by the will of the people or you advance centralized authoritarian power where a dictator or controlling elite class make the decisions.

Unfortunately the US has drifted from the former and more closely resembles the later.   Our individual rights are no longer respected and our rights have been usurped by a massive government bureaucracy which operates above the reach of our elected officials and is corruptly partnered with the mega-multi-national monopolistic corporations.  We no longer are ruled by a Democracy or Constitutiinal Republic.  We certainly are not a theocracy.  It is not Communism.  It is not even a corpacacy.  The best word to describe what we have is fascism which operates under a cloak of fake Democracy.   

Our media, our access to information, our ability to speak freely, our privacy, and our system of justice have all been compromised.

[thegeneral 1,383]

5 hours ago, Dizkneelande said:

general is going off the rails as he juggles complete erosion of our civil liberties with his severe hatred for anyone associated with the name Trump.

This is such bullshet. You cry for this scumbag who still believes he is right, the election was stolen, and it was up to him and these dopes to save us. He can rot in the clink for awhile. 

[thegeneral 1,383]

5 hours ago, shadrap said:

Yea, he has it bad.  reminds me of Drefus in the Pink Panther.   mention Klusso(Peter Sellers) & he goes off the rails.    DTS is real.  In FBGs, you mention a guy has DTS and you get a time out.  unreal.

You are also of the mind this dude who made his wife strip to pay for his school, who thinks he should be the one to save us from tyranny is innocent? What a crock of BS. 

[Dizkneelande 839]

3 hours ago, thegeneral said:

This is such bullshet. You cry for this scumbag who still believes he is right, the election was stolen, and it was up to him and these dopes to save us. He can rot in the clink for awhile. 

10s of millions of Americans believe our institutions tilted the scales in favor of Biden. From the media and tech blackout of the laptop story, to the 51 experts, voting rule changes using lawfare instead of implementing via constitutional norms and processes, countless examples forcible opposition suppression (Amazon and app stores dropping parlor). I could go on. 

So since you’re so smart, what are you thoughts on what we should do with these people?