edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 Saw a few if these outside of North Station in Bawstin just yesterday. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lod001 1,237 Posted September 8, 2021 Good one!. That's the youtube site I got that other one from. Nice HD highlight (or I guess you could call it a low light) video of the losers of society. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted September 8, 2021 Is this The Walking Dead show I see commercials for? ETA - They still have payphones? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 What type of drug makes everyone hang their head like that. Does it affect neck muscles? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted September 8, 2021 these videos seem to be all the rage now. my son was showing some instagram account about kensington and has all kinds of this stuff. it's focking sad but none of it shocks me anymore. most shocking thing in that video to me was homie on a payphone??? they still have payphones??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted September 8, 2021 Sad, just sad. So awful to see people let themselves come to that. Life is so full of potential and promise, and people get sucked into these downward spirals. What to do with all of the mental health and addiction population will be a vexing problem. It's one of a few issues/problems I don't have any opinion about. I don't know what you would do with or for these people. If you do too much for them, you incentivize this behavior. You do too little and this zombie fest is what you get. I have no idea how you fix this, you probably can't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: What type of drug makes everyone hang their head like that. Does it affect neck muscles? Opioids / heroin. Kensington & Allegheny is the worst drug neighborhood I’ve ever seen. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Masshole said: Sad, just sad. So awful to see people let themselves come to that. Life is so full of potential and promise, and people get sucked into these downward spirals. What to do with all of the mental health and addiction population will be a vexing problem. It's one of a few issues/problems I don't have any opinion about. I don't know what you would do with or for these people. If you do too much for them, you incentivize this behavior. You do too little and this zombie fest is what you get. I have no idea how you fix this, you probably can't. Hitler was on to something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 18 minutes ago, MDC said: Opioids / heroin. Kensington & Allegheny is the worst drug neighborhood I’ve ever seen. I worked every inch of DC in the 80s and 90s and there was nothing even close to that. That, of course, was the crack time, before opioids became the craze, and drew in the young white kids. MLK Avenue was about as close, but not really. Back then, they would throw all the truly strung out (almost all black) people into St. Elizabeth's. Now, who knows where they go. Still, as far as I know, there is nothing close to that in DC today. Baltimore, is a different story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted September 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, Masshole said: I have no idea how you fix this, you probably can't. City clinic providing free heroin for use under watch of doctors and councilors. Instantly puts every heroin dealer out of business. People who need/want help can get it. Save money in long-run, save lives, and clean up streets. Way too radical for politicians, but it would work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted September 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: I worked every inch of DC in the 80s and 90s and there was nothing even close to that. That, of course, was the crack time, before opioids became the craze, and drew in the young white kids. MLK Avenue was about as close, but not really. Back then, they would throw all the truly strung out (almost all black) people into St. Elizabeth's. Now, who knows where they go. Still, as far as I know, there is nothing close to that in DC today. Baltimore, is a different story. I’ve had around drive through the neighborhood in that video a few times. I picked up a rental truck around there last summer and on the way back saw dozens of people standing that way or openly shooting up at 10 am. There’s basically no solution for those folks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted September 8, 2021 Hate to see this happening. All these people being ruined by drugs. It's such a loss of potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, GobbleDog said: City clinic providing free heroin for use under watch of doctors and councilors. Instantly puts every heroin dealer out of business. People who need/want help can get it. Save money in long-run, save lives, and clean up streets. Way too radical for politicians, but it would work. They’ve been talking about a safe injection site in Kensington for years. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, MDC said: They’ve been talking about a safe injection site in Kensington for years. Unless they provide free heroin, it won't help. Ya gotta put the dealers out of business. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tikigods 76 Posted September 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, GobbleDog said: City clinic providing free heroin for use under watch of doctors and councilors. Instantly puts every heroin dealer out of business. People who need/want help can get it. Save money in long-run, save lives, and clean up streets. Way too radical for politicians, but it would work. Portugal did it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, tikigods said: Portugal did it Won't it be better then, to send all our heroin addicts to Portugal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 11 minutes ago, MDC said: They’ve been talking about a safe injection site in Kensington for years. We have that here in Boston. "Methadone Mile" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: Won't it be better then, to send all our heroin addicts to Portugal. Gas chamber. Tell them there is free dope inside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted September 8, 2021 How many of them received their stimulus checks? and if not, where did it go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, edjr said: Gas chamber. Tell them there is free dope inside We can save money by telling them to walk to Portugal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, NorthernVike said: How many of them received their stimulus checks? and if not, where did it go? Probably to the same person who used their names to vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NorthernVike 2,080 Posted September 8, 2021 Even wiff could get laid there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, NorthernVike said: Even wiff could get laid there. Now that's a stretch Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 8, 2021 Eeeeuuuwww that smell, can you smell that smell... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: How many of them voted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, GobbleDog said: Unless they provide free heroin, it won't help. Ya gotta put the dealers out of business. I'm not sure I am following. It would be "safer" since it wont have fentanyl. Perhaps no one will shoot up outside in the open. But how does that lessen homeless strung out bums standing all over the place? Wouldn't it just create more addicts? (Less deaths, safer more people lured in) I have to be missing something here. Getting rid of the dealers qould be a plus no doubt. How does this create less addicts? You are basically saying we supply several mental hospitals that are ok qith shooting up as long as you are inside? A looney bin? Buildings where there are hundreds of slumped over addicts inside? When can they leave the building? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted September 8, 2021 4 minutes ago, NorthernVike said: Even wiff could get laid there. I've always imagined wiff as more of the murdering type, which makes the place even better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,890 Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, GobbleDog said: Unless they provide free heroin, it won't help. Ya gotta put the dealers out of business. Decriminalize it for sure to eliminate some of the crime element. You’ll still have thousands of junkies creating a public health nuisance who need to steal to feed the habit though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, MDC said: Decriminalize it for sure to eliminate some of the crime element. You’ll still have thousands of junkies creating a public health nuisance who need to steal to feed the habit though. Methadone is free Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, listen2me 23 said: I'm not sure I am following. It would be "safer" since it wont have fentanyl. Perhaps no one will shoot up outside in the open. But how does that lessen homeless strung out bums standing all over the place? Wouldn't it just create more addicts? (Less deaths, safer more people lured in) I have to be missing something here. Getting rid of the dealers qould be a plus no doubt. How does this create less addicts? You are basically saying we supply several mental hospitals that are ok qith shooting up as long as you are inside? A looney bin? Buildings where there are hundreds of slumped over addicts inside? When can they leave the building? Heroin/fentanyl/crack... whatever. There'd be no "strung out bums standing all over" because they'd be inside the clinic. It wouldn't create more addicts - with all the dealers out of business, there's nobody (or any incentive) to hook future generations and the only people who would go to such a disgusting place and do drugs under doctor supervision are already addicted. There'd also be some screening process just to enter. They can leave when they're sober with the next fix available in 24 hours or so. Over decades, the number of addicted would dwindle to near zero. Hate spending tax money on that? It'd save a lot more in the long run. Honestly, I don't care if this ever happens. I detest scum and I'm unsympathetic to their misery. But the solution is fairly simple if politicians really wanted to fix it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, GobbleDog said: Heroin/fentanyl/crack... whatever. There'd be no "strung out bums standing all over" because they'd be inside the clinic. It wouldn't create more addicts - with all the dealers out of business, there's nobody (or any incentive) to hook future generations and the only people who would go to such a disgusting place and do drugs under doctor supervision are already addicted. There'd also be some screening process just to enter. They can leave when they're sober with the next fix available in 24 hours or so. Over decades, the number of addicted would dwindle to near zero. Hate spending tax money on that? It'd save a lot more in the long run. Honestly, I don't care if this ever happens. I detest scum and I'm unsympathetic to their misery. But the solution is fairly simple if politicians really wanted to fix it. WHAT IS DEAD MAY NEVER DIE. THE WAR ON DRUGS Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, GobbleDog said: They can leave when they're sober with the next fix available in 24 hours or so. Over decades, the number of addicted would dwindle to near zero. This isn't going to happen. And if it was say 24hrs they would just go out and buy from a dealer in the meantime. I do understand the idea of eliminating as many dealers as possible to prevent future generations from being "hooked". Not sure if that would happened as planned but I see an angle there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted September 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: This isn't going to happen. And if it was say 24hrs they would just go out and buy from a dealer in the meantime. Buy from what dealers? They're all gone once it becomes free at a clinic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted September 8, 2021 1 minute ago, GobbleDog said: Buy from what dealers? They're all gone once it becomes free at a clinic. Are there casual users out there who don't want to go to a free clinic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,285 Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, GobbleDog said: City clinic providing free heroin for use under watch of doctors and councilors. Instantly puts every heroin dealer out of business. People who need/want help can get it. Save money in long-run, save lives, and clean up streets. Way too radical for politicians, but it would work. No it wont Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted September 8, 2021 Just now, GobbleDog said: Buy from what dealers? They're all gone once it becomes free at a clinic. If addicts have 24 hrs to go shoot up again for free. They are going to look for heroin in thr meantime to buy. They would still be doing their drugs at a discount. I understand your angle and I'm not writing it off. But you make it sound so simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted September 8, 2021 I haven’t seen anything like that since tailgating at Lincoln Financial before Covid. And isn’t that the liberal dream? Blacks and Whites living equally amongst each other… 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Gladiators said: Are there casual users out there who don't want to go to a free clinic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cantaloupe 44 Posted September 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Gladiators said: Is this The Walking Dead show I see commercials for? If it was it wouldn't be so long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted September 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Gladiators said: Are there casual users out there who don't want to go to a free clinic? Probably some, but I'd guess 90%+ of a heroin dealer's business is to addicts, not casual users. Dealers will risk decades in prison for big money, but not when the drug value plummets to near nothing. Hence, no more dealers. The casual user is why the idea would only work with highly addictive drugs. It'd never work with recreational stuff like pot, cocaine, ecstasy, etc. as nobody would sit in a disgusting city clinic doing those drugs, free or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites