polecatt 401 Posted September 14, 2021 He had one catch, and it scored me 18 pts This league is PPR, 1 pt per 20 yds, and TDs over 50 yds are worth 15 pts He's my flex play, for exactly this reason. He is one of the best deep threats in the NFL. Last season he was kind of limited by dink and dunk Teddy but excelled in PPR. With Darnold back, and the Panthers being better than the Jets, I think he's gonna have a big season in long ball leagues. I standard and PPR, he may not be much better than a low end WR2, but in long ball, I think he has solid WR1 potential. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,457 Posted September 14, 2021 I think he had one target. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 401 Posted September 14, 2021 He had 3 but they were quite efficient Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,114 Posted September 14, 2021 13 hours ago, polecatt said: This league is PPR, 1 pt per 20 yds, and TDs over 50 yds are worth 15 pts That's a horrible scoring system. The difference between a 49 yard TD and 50 yard TD being 9 points is absurd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 401 Posted September 14, 2021 41 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: That's a horrible scoring system. The difference between a 49 yard TD and 50 yard TD being 9 points is absurd. 40 to 50 yards is 12 pts. You get screwed on a 39 yard TD. It's how old school scoring was though. A lot of the first leagues, way back before fantasy was popular, it was only TDs that got you points and long TD plays were worth a lot more than short ones. It's a twist I've come to love. Gives big play guys added value, and why shouldn't it? Big plays like that are statistically as important anything Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,114 Posted September 14, 2021 3 minutes ago, polecatt said: 40 to 50 yards is 12 pts. You get screwed on a 39 yard TD. It's how old school scoring was though. A lot of the first leagues, way back before fantasy was popular, it was only TDs that got you points and long TD plays were worth a lot more than short ones. It's a twist I've come to love. Gives big play guys added value, and why shouldn't it? Big plays like that are statistically as important anything Gotchya. Yeah I can somewhat see that, but to me, that gives more value to fluke plays. I'm not a big fan of that. Fantasy football already heavily leans towards luck, why push it further? That's how I see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 401 Posted September 14, 2021 26 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Gotchya. Yeah I can somewhat see that, but to me, that gives more value to fluke plays. I'm not a big fan of that. Fantasy football already heavily leans towards luck, why push it further? That's how I see it. So called fluke plays are a big part of the game though. It's quite uncommon for a single play to go half the length of the field or more. It takes some excellent execution and proper exploitation of defensive mistakes. I think that's worth a bonus. I get what you're saying, and I was kind of like that when I first started in a league with this sort of scoring back in 2007. I've come to love it though. it's the most challenging league I've ever played in. When I've won the championship, it's been the most rewarding! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 14, 2021 Where distance bonuses are applied, I like to see them calculated by formula, rather than by a "range" of scores. For instance, one describes being screwed on a 39 yard TD being only 6 pts, while a 40 yard TD is 12 pts and a 50 yarder is 15 points. Why not just tack on an additional 0.1 pts per yard of every scoring play? So a 1 yard TD plunge is 6.1 points, and a 43 yard TD would be 10.3 pts. Kinda like how a lot of FG scoring these days is 0.1 x length of FG, so a 27 yard FG is 2.7 pts and a 53 yard FG is 5.3 pts. So you don't get a full extra point just by going from a 39 yard FG to a 40 yard FG. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 401 Posted September 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, AxeElf said: Where distance bonuses are applied, I like to see them calculated by formula, rather than by a "range" of scores. For instance, one describes being screwed on a 39 yard TD being only 6 pts, while a 40 yard TD is 12 pts and a 50 yarder is 15 points. Why not just tack on an additional 0.1 pts per yard of every scoring play? So a 1 yard TD plunge is 6.1 points, and a 43 yard TD would be 10.3 pts. Kinda like how a lot of FG scoring these days is 0.1 x length of FG, so a 27 yard FG is 2.7 pts and a 53 yard FG is 5.3 pts. So you don't get a full extra point just by going from a 39 yard FG to a 40 yard FG. Yeah, I agree. That's probably a better way of doing it, but the limitations of the host site mostly prevents such things. I saw a scoring system several years ago that I think would be very interesting to play by. It basically gives 1 pt per yard gained, and something like a 20 pt bonus at 100 yds. TDs were worth 60 pts + whatever the yardage was tacked on. Example, a 1 yd TD run would be 61 pts, a 5 yard TD would be 65 pts, etc. The scores of course would get really high, but I would prefer that to decimals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted September 14, 2021 1 minute ago, polecatt said: It basically gives 1 pt per yard gained, and something like a 20 pt bonus at 100 yds. I had one league where rushing yards only were 1 pt per yard; passing and receiving were still 0.1. Taysom Hill was outscoring Patrick Mahomes at QB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 401 Posted September 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, AxeElf said: I had one league where rushing yards only were 1 pt per yard; passing and receiving were still 0.1. Taysom Hill was outscoring Patrick Mahomes at QB. That's what I would call a bad scoring system. It's roughly supposed to be a reflection of the real game, that truly is fantasy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,037 Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 7:49 AM, polecatt said: 40 to 50 yards is 12 pts. You get screwed on a 39 yard TD. It's how old school scoring was though. A lot of the first leagues, way back before fantasy was popular, it was only TDs that got you points and long TD plays were worth a lot more than short ones. It's a twist I've come to love. Gives big play guys added value, and why shouldn't it? Big plays like that are statistically as important anything My first year playing had a dumb scoring system like that. You got 3 points for 75 yards rushing or receiving and a bonus at 100. I had Marshall Faulk during that first greatest show on turf year and he had a lot of 72 yard rushing, 60 yard receiving type games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GobbleDog 816 Posted September 15, 2021 On 9/14/2021 at 10:04 AM, TBayXXXVII said: That's a horrible scoring system. The difference between a 49 yard TD and 50 yard TD being 9 points is absurd. I've played in such leagues and hated it for the reason you stated. There's already enough dumb luck in fantasy football. My current league gives bonus points for going over 100 yds receiving or rushing, but not an arbitrary bonus. The player still has to earn them... Instead of 0.1 points per yard, it's 0.2 points per yard above 100. Now that's fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites