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2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It is textbook PR talk. Validate the side that feels aggrieved but also validate the verdict and validate the system.

I recognize you guys forget how normal empathetic people talk but this is it.

Hold on...I thought he was supposed to tamp down stuff? Now he's validating the perceptions of the aggrieved? Using the word "angry" for how he personally feels is absolutely not PR talk. "Angry" doesn't tamp down sh!t. If you're "validating the side that feels aggrieved" by pandering to them in this way, then you're just escalating the progressive rhetoric that the judicial system is racist.  Nice deflection though.  It was almost as good as Biden sidestepping the question of whether he still thought Rittenhouse was a white supremacist. 

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8 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Hold on...I thought he was supposed to tamp down stuff? Now he's validating the perceptions of the aggrieved? Using the word "angry" for how he personally feels is absolutely not PR talk. "Angry" doesn't tamp down sh!t. If you're "validating the side that feels aggrieved" by pandering to them in this way, then you're just escalating the progressive rhetoric that the judicial system is racist.  Nice deflection though.  It was almost as good as Biden sidestepping the question of whether he still thought Rittenhouse was a white supremacist. 

Good god you are dumb.

You tamp stuff down by saying "I understand the way you feel but the jury system is there for a reason and it works. Violence is not an answer and there are other lawful ways to express disappointment."

In that statement he is saying- whether you agree with the verdict or not the law and jury ruled in Rittenhouse's favor. I get if you are angry. Don't resort to violence and destruction to express discontent. Let's move on.

Again- it is called empathy. Address people's feelings but ultimately say this is how it goes. It's tamping stuff down and it's how President's talk. Again- I understand why people like you forget that.

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35 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

🔥🔥🔥Flaming hot take...

 

I wonder if a white guy found a door handle if Nascar would parade them around the track and make all the drivers escort behind him for a photo op?

Doubt it

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13 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Good god you are dumb.

You tamp stuff down by saying "I understand the way you feel but the jury system is there for a reason and it works. Violence is not an answer and there are other lawful ways to express disappointment."

In that statement he is saying- whether you agree with the verdict or not the law and jury ruled in Rittenhouse's favor. I get if you are angry. Don't resort to violence and destruction to express discontent. Let's move on.

Again- it is called empathy. Address people's feelings but ultimately say this is how it goes. It's tamping stuff down and it's how President's talk. Again- I understand why people like you forget that.

Yeah I get all that bullsh!t.  I guess the implications of the POTUS saying that he is angry that the legal system worked is going over your head.  Regardless, of all that other "empathy", "I'm angry" is what resounds with people.  It empowers people to say "see,, we are right.  This is racist". The rest is window dressing.  

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4 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Yeah I get all that bullsh!t.  I guess the implications of the POTUS saying that he is angry that the legal system worked is going over your head.  Regardless, of all that other "empathy", "I'm angry" is what resounds with people.  It empowers people to say "see,, we are right.  This is racist". The rest is window dressing.  

No it doesn't. That part resonates with you because you want chaos to take over because it's how you see the world. Lots of things can be tamped down if people think they are being heard whether they actually are or are not. 

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15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

No it doesn't. That part resonates with you because you want chaos to take over because it's how you see the world. Lots of things can be tamped down if people think they are being heard whether they actually are or are not. 

I agree with Fireball.  If you give your position on it as angry you can't thrn say but the system works.  Fireball is right.  People see thr POTUS apparently not agree with the decision and that gives them the greenlight to be mad and feel it validates them.  Further divides.  

If Biden leaves his position of "angry" out then yes I would agree with you.  

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30 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

No it doesn't. That part resonates with you because you want chaos to take over because it's how you see the world. Lots of things can be tamped down if people think they are being heard whether they actually are or are not. 

Wow.  Youre glossing over the POTUS being personally angry that the legal system let a man that was found "not guilty" go free.  You're doing this because you agree. You thought he "needed to do time" based on your feelings.  Typical libtard logic. 

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Good god you are dumb.

You tamp stuff down by saying "I understand the way you feel but the jury system is there for a reason and it works. Violence is not an answer and there are other lawful ways to express disappointment."

In that statement he is saying- whether you agree with the verdict or not the law and jury ruled in Rittenhouse's favor. I get if you are angry. Don't resort to violence and destruction to express discontent. Let's move on.

Again- it is called empathy. Address people's feelings but ultimately say this is how it goes. It's tamping stuff down and it's how President's talk. Again- I understand why people like you forget that.

Empathy for who? If the system let anyone down it’s the people and the businesses in Kenosha. Not liberals.  

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I also love the “if Kyle were black”. If Kyle were black libtards would be defending him. Because they have shown time and again they only see color, not facts. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

I also love the “if Kyle were black”. If Kyle were black libtards would be defending him. Because they have shown time and again they only see color, not facts. 

Exactly this.

Also, had Kyle been black and the verdict was the same, they'd be calling him a hero.  Biden would've given him the medal of honor.

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1 minute ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Exactly this.

Also, had Kyle been black and the verdict was the same, they'd be calling him a hero.  Biden would've given him the medal of honor.

They are simple. So simple. And they just keep diving back in on these hoaxes and telling everyone they are the smart ones and you watch Fox. 

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14 hours ago, Drizzay said:

 

It might do our resident impartial independent centrists like @Sean Mooney some good to skim through this twitter thread and see what the “impartial” sources were saying about this case.  AP, Reuters, NPR, multiple fact checkers… they are what CNN used to be — living off of their reputation of being unbiased, but constantly moving to the left.

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22 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I do have a choice to be fine with it or not fine with it. I'm free to have whatever opinion I want.

Once again, I'm a moderate conservative. Just because I'm to the left of you and the alt-righties doesn't make me a liberal. I probably have more guns that you, including some .50-caliber weapons that would turn someone in a fine mist. 

I have guns hanging on my office wall, in fact.

You don't have more guns than me. Zero focking chance.  Or ammo. 

I don't have a .50 cal... I buy the same  few calibers over and over and over. 

And you have gun that would turn someone into fine mist?  Uhh...and?   Its something you bought.  So...what are you saying? 


That's like saying "I have a pickup.  It could flatten someone"   lol.  What a dumb ass.

Here's  a fact:  I could physically put you on the ground, and beat you so bad that you were begging to just be killed the rest of the way.  Without a gun.  Or a tool or weapon. That's a better feat than saying "I went to store and bought a big chainsaw.  I could cut someone to smithereens with it"

lol  @" I have a gun that could turn someone into fine mist".    

I more so doubt that you even know which end of a  gun is the barrel.  You liberals aren't much good at anything that doesn't involve barbie dolls, d!ildos or unicorns. 



 

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5 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Whenever you think liberals couldn’t prove themselves to be any more dumb, they go out and do everything possible to prove you wrong. 

Collective insanity . They can’t keep anything straight. And they actually think that black people in this country are abused by the system. Meanwhile black communities have the highest crime rates and most crimes go unpunished. Most cities have a 40 pct clearance rate for murders, and a lower conviction rate. Literally getting away with murder on a large scale. Fock off with the bullshit libtards. You are completely clueless and should never comment on matters of crime and black people. 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Collective insanity . They can’t keep anything straight. And they actually think that black people in this country are abused by the system. Meanwhile black communities have the highest crime rates and most crimes go unpunished. Most cities have a 40 pct clearance rate for murders, and a lower conviction rate. Literally getting away with murder on a large scale. Fock off with the bullshit libtards. You are completely clueless and should never comment on matters of crime and black people. 


I read a study the other day, that said the number of people crying about blacks being accused/convicted of crimes could be lessened if blacks would quit committing so many crimes. 

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From 2017-2019 there were 1001 murders in Baltimore.  There have been 248 arrests in those murders. One of the common ways a murder gets closed out in Baltimore is that the suspected killer is also murdered while the murder they committed is still being investigated. I guess there must be a lot of vigilantes in Baltimore, and seeing as we are so concerned about that now, we should all be up in arms. Where my libtards at? 

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Pre-Rittenhouse Left:  Defund the Police. Let Social workers and community members take care of the problems.

Post Rittenhouse Left:  Fock this! We can't let people get away with "murder". 

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4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

No it doesn't. That part resonates with you because you want chaos to take over because it's how you see the world. Lots of things can be tamped down if people think they are being heard whether they actually are or are not. 

If you're mad...you should "go at someone"  that you don't like.  Charge them! Swing a skateboard at them! It's your right! Come on man, do it!


 

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This case and pretty much all the media coverage and debate on all sides has been 100% cringeworthy. I’m glad it’s over and the protests were mostly peaceful.

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The problem I have with people saying “iF hE wErE bLaCk” is they want an innocent kid to go to jail cause he’s the wrong race. Those people, peenie included, can go fock themselves 

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4 hours ago, listen2me 23 said:

I agree with Fireball.  If you give your position on it as angry you can't thrn say but the system works.  Fireball is right.  People see thr POTUS apparently not agree with the decision and that gives them the greenlight to be mad and feel it validates them.  Further divides.  

If Biden leaves his position of "angry" out then yes I would agree with you.  

You guys are focusing on one word out of like 100-150. That one word does not override the message of everything else. It does if you are news media because they like to elevate things to stupid levels. If Biden had just said "angry" I might be inclined to agree with Fireball and you. The fact that he added "concerned" softens the previous word quite a bit 

4 hours ago, Fireballer said:

Wow.  Youre glossing over the POTUS being personally angry that the legal system let a man that was found "not guilty" go free.  You're doing this because you agree. You thought he "needed to do time" based on your feelings.  Typical libtard logic. 

Again- you want to let one word stand for the rest. I think that is silly. It isn't "libtard logic" anymore than chalking what you said up to conservativism. People can debate things without labeling it along political lines. 

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42 minutes ago, Djgb13 said:

The problem I have with people saying “iF hE wErE bLaCk” is they want an innocent kid to go to jail cause he’s the wrong race. Those people, peenie included, can go fock themselves 

The bigger problem is they have their heads up their ass.  If Kyle was black, he would never have been charged.  The rioters would all be labeled white supremists and Grosskreutz would be in jail for attempted murder.  That is the truth.  Kyle would be a hero to both sides.  

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It's heartwarming to see protestors taking a knee in remembrance of the pedophile that got put down like a rabid dog.  I'm sure the parents of the children he raped love to see libs treating him like a hero. 

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55 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You guys are focusing on one word out of like 100-150. That one word does not override the message of everything else. It does if you are news media because they like to elevate things to stupid levels. If Biden had just said "angry" I might be inclined to agree with Fireball and you. The fact that he added "concerned" softens the previous word quite a bit 

Again- you want to let one word stand for the rest. I think that is silly. It isn't "libtard logic" anymore than chalking what you said up to conservativism. People can debate things without labeling it along political lines. 

I'm  not saying what he said was real bad.  I am saying it leaves the door open and he injects his opinion for no good reason.  It cheapens the message for sure.  Doesn't totally ruin it but it certainly cheapens it.  

You can give a bipartisan message on it and with an overall theme of we need to do better and all be Americans and stop with any sort of violence.

I don't really see what the argument is here.  If the president claims he is angry it leaves the door wide open for people to feel like they should be even more angry.  

Thus far it looks like the outcome has been ok off of twitter.  Like I said before the verdict, was optimistic.  People generally forget and need a new thing to be upset about.  That and I think the government and city took the possiblity of rioting more serious this go around.

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13 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The bigger problem is they have their heads up their ass.  If Kyle was black, he would never have been charged.  The rioters would all be labeled white supremists and Grosskreutz would be in jail for attempted murder.  That is the truth.  Kyle would be a hero to both sides.  

Yep. And even if the black kid WAS guilty they would demand he be let off 

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1 hour ago, joneo said:

Pre-Rittenhouse Left:  Defund the Police. Let Social workers and community members take care of the problems.

Post Rittenhouse Left:  Fock this! We can't let people get away with "murder". 

Or Post Rittenhouse Left:  He should have left it to the police!

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28 minutes ago, jonmx said:

The bigger problem is they have their heads up their ass.  If Kyle was black, he would never have been charged.  The rioters would all be labeled white supremists and Grosskreutz would be in jail for attempted murder.  That is the truth.  Kyle would be a hero to both sides.  

He might have gotten charged and then labeled a white supremacist.  

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1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

You guys are focusing on one word out of like 100-150. That one word does not override the message of everything else. It does if you are news media because they like to elevate things to stupid levels. If Biden had just said "angry" I might be inclined to agree with Fireball and you. The fact that he added "concerned" softens the previous word quite a bit 

Again- you want to let one word stand for the rest. I think that is silly. It isn't "libtard logic" anymore than chalking what you said up to conservativism. People can debate things without labeling it along political lines. 

You should be more coherent with your words.  All of them. 

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27 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I'm  not saying what he said was real bad.  I am saying it leaves the door open and he injects his opinion for no good reason.  It cheapens the message for sure.  Doesn't totally ruin it but it certainly cheapens it.  

You can give a bipartisan message on it and with an overall theme of we need to do better and all be Americans and stop with any sort of violence.

I don't really see what the argument is here.  If the president claims he is angry it leaves the door wide open for people to feel like they should be even more angry.  

Thus far it looks like the outcome has been ok off of twitter.  Like I said before the verdict, was optimistic.  People generally forget and need a new thing to be upset about.  That and I think the government and city took the possiblity of rioting more serious this go around.

Agree to disagree but either way I am glad to see someone here who wants to respectfully discuss things from a level headed starting point. 

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Yeah, it’s people on the right that want chaos. Remember all that chaos in those red states during the summer of love? 

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1 hour ago, Djgb13 said:

The problem I have with people saying “iF hE wErE bLaCk” is they want an innocent kid to go to jail cause he’s the wrong race. Those people, peenie included, can go fock themselves 

If Kyle were Black and the verdict was the same, as it should be, the left would declare him a hero and Biden would invite him to the White House.

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3 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

If Kyle were Black and the verdict was the same, as it should be, the left would declare him a hero and Biden would invite him to the White House.

This is a great point. Biden would not have been angry. He would have been happy. 

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