IGotWorms 3,248 Posted May 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, Masshole said: Biden: strong on national security Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,749 Posted May 19, 2022 is that adjusted for inflation? (half-joking) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,805 Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Biden: strong on national security I can appreciate the trolling attempt but you can’t possibly think throwing tens of billions at a corrupt puppet government halfway across the globe is a worthwhile way to spend resources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted May 19, 2022 21 minutes ago, MDC said: I can appreciate the trolling attempt but you can’t possibly think throwing tens of billions at a corrupt puppet government halfway across the globe is a worthwhile way to spend resources. That was one of those fortuitous moments where it was both a great opportunity and true. The enemy of our enemy is our friend. Putin is our enemy. And democracy is good. I see you don’t have much respect for or belief in theirs, but it’s still better than an outright autocratic Putin-controlled regime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,805 Posted May 19, 2022 12 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: That was one of those fortuitous moments where it was both a great opportunity and true. The enemy of our enemy is our friend. Putin is our enemy. And democracy is good. I see you don’t have much respect for or belief in theirs, but it’s still better than an outright autocratic Putin-controlled regime. I’m not sure Ukraine qualifies as a democracy since their government is the result of a coup the US supported. We’re not in the business of blanket defending democracy around the globe on principle. We picked this one because a small group of influential people think Ukraine is in our business and geopolitical interests. All this is about is the military industrial complex playing Risk. The malarkey about defending democracy abroad is so naive, I have to think you’re just trolling here. If so we’ll played I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, MDC said: I’m not sure Ukraine qualifies as a democracy since their government is the result of a coup the US supported. We’re not in the business of blanket defending democracy around the globe on principle. We picked this one because a small group of influential people think Ukraine is in our business and geopolitical interests. All this is about is the military industrial complex playing Risk. The malarkey about defending democracy abroad is so naive, I have to think you’re just trolling here. If so we’ll played I guess. Nope I’m really dumb enough to believe it We’ve got no skin in the game. Would be different if we sent in troops, though I think I might still support that. Autocracy needs to be stopped Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 5,805 Posted May 19, 2022 7 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Nope I’m really dumb enough to believe it We’ve got no skin in the game. Would be different if we sent in troops, though I think I might still support that. Autocracy needs to be stopped You’re killing me. I’m going to just stay out of this. Good day sir. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted May 19, 2022 11 minutes ago, MDC said: You’re killing me. I’m going to just stay out of this. Good day sir. I said Good Day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,518 Posted May 19, 2022 57 minutes ago, MDC said: I’m not sure Ukraine qualifies as a democracy since their government is the result of a coup the US supported. We’re not in the business of blanket defending democracy around the globe on principle. We picked this one because a small group of influential people think Ukraine is in our business and geopolitical interests. All this is about is the military industrial complex playing Risk. The malarkey about defending democracy abroad is so naive, I have to think you’re just trolling here. If so we’ll played I guess. Who is this guy??? I like him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,406 Posted May 19, 2022 1 hour ago, IGotWorms said: That was one of those fortuitous moments where it was both a great opportunity and true. The enemy of our enemy is our friend. Putin is our enemy. And democracy is good. I see you don’t have much respect for or belief in theirs, but it’s still better than an outright autocratic Putin-controlled regime. Taiwan is a democracy, or at least closer to it than Ukraine. You ready to defend them as well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 19, 2022 4 hours ago, IGotWorms said: Jesus that’s gotta be one of the worst slip ups ever honestly he and Cheney and wolfowitz and rumsfeld should have been put up for war crimes. Fux. The entire crew. But suddenly now he's this charming dottering old man who paints pictures of his feet while he's in the bathtub and suddenly now he's adorable? F****** die. Horribly. You f****** jerk. Born on third base thinks he hit a triple mother f*****. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,248 Posted May 20, 2022 3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Taiwan is a democracy, or at least closer to it than Ukraine. You ready to defend them as well? I don’t really understand how it all works with Taiwan and China is a different beast than Russia. But yes we should assist them however feasible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,406 Posted May 20, 2022 21 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: I don’t really understand how it all works with Taiwan and China is a different beast than Russia. But yes we should assist them however feasible Bet we don’t. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 20, 2022 https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-black-sea-missiles-putin-gerashchenko-harpoon-1708449 C ya, Black Sea fleet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,023 Posted May 20, 2022 43 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-russia-black-sea-missiles-putin-gerashchenko-harpoon-1708449 C ya, Black Sea fleet! This is ridiculous even for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,277 Posted May 20, 2022 Just now, nobody said: This is ridiculous even for you. He thinks more russians died in the first 3 months of this war than all Americans in Korea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted May 20, 2022 This youtbue channel seems to cover daily activity well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 20, 2022 I don't know where you guys get your news. One of the many sites I did is Yahoo news. Just because it seems like a pretty good aggregator. But that's not really the point. I am just daily amazed at how badly Russia is getting their ass kicked in ukraine. Turns out, the last article I read among many many of them is that Russia is now allowing people over 40 to join the military because they've lost so much in Ukraine already. I mean, I know some of you geniuses are going to say it's all media spin, but if there's 50 stories and they're all about Russia f****** up and there's actual video and pictures of f***** up Russian tanks? At a certain point you have to believe prevailing winds. Really do think this is going to be Putin's waterloo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimmySmith 2,782 Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, wiffleball said: I don't know where you guys get your news. One of the many sites I did is Yahoo news. Just because it seems like a pretty good aggregator. But that's not really the point. I am just daily amazed at how badly Russia is getting their ass kicked in ukraine. Turns out, the last article I read among many many of them is that Russia is now allowing people over 40 to join the military because they've lost so much in Ukraine already. I mean, I know some of you geniuses are going to say it's all media spin, but if there's 50 stories and they're all about Russia f****** up and there's actual video and pictures of f***** up Russian tanks? At a certain point you have to believe prevailing winds. Really do think this is going to be Putin's waterloo. How many stories do you see about Ukraine deaths? Most one sided war ever. Russia must have the worst army ever even though they have demolished cities and taken half of Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: How many stories do you see about Ukraine deaths? Most one sided war ever. Russia must have the worst army ever even though they have demolished cities and taken half of Ukraine. They haven't taken half of Ukraine. Not even close. It is pretty lopsided when it comes to reported military deaths, but from what little I've seen, it seems like one Uker soldier is killed for every five Russian soldiers killed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, TimmySmith said: How many stories do you see about Ukraine deaths? Most one sided war ever. Russia must have the worst army ever even though they have demolished cities and taken half of Ukraine. I haven't seen anything indicating that they've taken half of ukraine. Who knows for sure? But I have seen a shiitload of footage from multiple sources of some busted ass blown up Russian tanks. Honest to god? I'm actually pretty proud of Europe for stepping up. I think there's a lot of s*** a lot of countries are doing to absolutely fock up Putin's day. No matter what you believe. No matter what the actual truth is. I think it's undeniable that this s*** isn't exactly going Putin's way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 20, 2022 Was pretty amazed to hear that even Russia admitted that they've lost more forces already than they did in Afghanistan over 10 years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 20, 2022 The 180 that Putin called on Finland and Sweden joining NATO is undeniable. I mean it's his own f****** words. That's not the mainstream media is spinning whatever. It's his own f****** words before and after. Dude is supremely f*****. And I think he knows it. Russia, more than any other country in the history of History has a way of absolutely destroying any leader who fails in warfare. Especially, when your billionaire friends super yachts keep getting confiscated... A great prop bet right now would be who dies first? Putin Or Bob Newhart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, wiffleball said: The 180 that Putin called on Finland and Sweden joining NATO is undeniable. I mean it's his own f****** words. That's not the mainstream media is spinning whatever. It's his own f****** words before and after. Dude is supremely f*****. And I think he knows it. Russia, more than any other country in the history of History has a way of absolutely destroying any leader who fails in warfare. Especially, when your billionaire friends super yachts keep getting confiscated... A great prop bet right now would be who dies first? Putin Or Bob Newhart. Maybe it's because he knows Turkey will block their admission. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 20, 2022 I know this is a tangent. But I really have to think about China right now. I know we're not perfect. Our Navy is supremely f***** in many respects. But I think China is looking at this whole Russia situation and thinking, you know our s**** even worse than their s*** is. Turns out, both regimes bank on volume. Not quality. And certainly not competence. Remember what Iraq's military was rated globally right before we just f****** destroyed them in about 15 minutes? I do. China started off this whole Ukraine thing a lot more bombastic and pro-russia than they are right now. Suddenly, they're just .."would you like egg roll with that?" I guess the point I'm making here is. America has always been incredibly self-criticizing. We think we invented racism. We think we invented slavery. We think we invented incompetent military. But at the end of the day? It's like Churchill used to say. Democracy is the worst political system ever. Until you look at all the other alternatives. This is a big W not only because America has largely let Europe finally do their f****** job. But Europe has finally stepped up too. Countries that were notoriously ambivalent are suddenly realizing that if they don't step up they're f*****. They're next. and they stepped up and that's fantastic. That's everything everybody from both sides of the aisle has been wanting for decades. Call it a proxy war if you want. But this is the first f****** war in a long while where the Europeans stepped up. Sweden and Finland finally realizing their asses are on the line? Germany doing a full 180 on their Arms policy? Poland being the f****** biggest badass on the planet? No matter what your beliefs are. That's a win for everybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, wiffleball said: I know this is a tangent. But I really have to think about trying to right now. I know we're not perfect. Our Navy is supremely f***** in many respects. But I think China is looking at this whole Russia situation and thinking, you know our s**** even worse than their s*** is. Turns out, both regimes Bank on volume. Not quality. And certainly not competence. Remember what Iraq's military was rated globally right before we just f****** destroyed them in about 15 minutes? I do. China started off this whole Ukraine thing a lot more bombastic and pro-russia than they are right now. Suddenly, they're just .."would you like egg roll with that?" I guess the point I'm making here is. America has always been incredibly self-criticizing. We think we invented racism. We think we invented slavery. We think we invented incompetent military. But at the end of the day? It's like Churchill used to say. Democracy is the worst political system ever. Until you look at all the other alternatives. This is a big W not only because America has largely let Europe finally do their f****** job. But Europe has finally stepped up too. Countries that were notoriously ambivalent are suddenly realizing that if they don't step up they're f*****. They're next. and they stepped up and that's fantastic. That's everything everybody from both sides of the aisle has been wanting for decades. Call it a proxy war if you want. But this is the first f****** war in a long while where the Europeans stepped up. Sweden and Finland finally realizing their asses are on the line? Germany doing a full 180 on their Arms policy? Poland being the f****** biggest badass on the planet? No matter what your beliefs are. That's a win for everybody. If Putin thought Russia was vulnerable before, he has to be crapping his pants over little ol' Ukraine crippling his military, which can't replace all the equipment that got blowed the fock up in Ukraine. It's a military embarrassment on an epic scale. I read a story yesterday about Russian soldiers plotting with their commanders to go AWOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 20, 2022 On 5/19/2022 at 1:08 PM, Masshole said: Hey, that's Twitter from somebody that nobody f****** knows. With absolutely no credibility and that's fantastic. I'd have more respect for a tweet from Kim kardashian. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 20, 2022 Don't think he walked away from that one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,406 Posted May 21, 2022 4 hours ago, wiffleball said: I haven't seen anything indicating that they've taken half of ukraine. Who knows for sure? But I have seen a shiitload of footage from multiple sources of some busted ass blown up Russian tanks. Honest to god? I'm actually pretty proud of Europe for stepping up. I think there's a lot of s*** a lot of countries are doing to absolutely fock up Putin's day. No matter what you believe. No matter what the actual truth is. I think it's undeniable that this s*** isn't exactly going Putin's way. Europe is contributing to this war about as much as Rusty is. If Ukraine was counting on Europe they would be drinking Smirnoff right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,617 Posted May 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Europe is contributing to this war about as much as Rusty is. If Ukraine was counting on Europe they would be drinking Smirnoff right now. Ignorant and Ill informed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,406 Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, wiffleball said: Ignorant and Ill informed. Really? Go look up who’s basically funding this whole thing. It ain’t Germany. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 21, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Really? Go look up who’s basically funding this whole thing. It ain’t Germany. I already pointed you to spending per GDP, but you couldn't handle it. Clownzo is in a better position financially than you to be a member of the nation's most expensive country club. It's all relative, peaches. Plus we need Russia to lose, which it will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,277 Posted May 21, 2022 1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said: I already pointed you to spending per GDP, but you couldn't handle it. Clownzo is in a better position financially than you to be a member of the nation's most expensive country club. It's all relative, peaches. Plus we need Russia to lose, which it will. Well since 750k Russians die each day, the war should be over soon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,406 Posted May 21, 2022 Just now, Pimpadeaux said: I already pointed you to spending per GDP, but you couldn't handle it. Clownzo is in a better position financially than you to be a member of the nation's most expensive country club. It's all relative, peaches. Plus we need Russia to lose, which it will. I don’t care about socialist countries GDP. Get it? It’s not real. Germany is rich. They pay dik. GFY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I don’t care about socialist countries GDP. Get it? It’s not real. Germany is rich. They pay dik. GFY. OK, I see your point on that. I didn't think about the socialist aspect. But we really need Ukraine to win, and I'm willing to cough up tax dollars to make that happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,406 Posted May 21, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: OK, I see your point on that. I didn't think about the socialist aspect. But we really need Ukraine to win, and I'm willing to cough up tax dollars to make that happen. It’s wrong. Europe is right back to letting us defend them again. And im sure we’ll be rebuilding it too. This is a joke. They laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted May 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: It’s wrong. Europe is right back to letting us defend them again. And im sure we’ll be rebuilding it too. This is a joke. They laugh. But we're basically whipping Russia's ass, weakening them on an epic scale, giving China a big reason not to fock with Taiwan and giving notice to the world that we're not falling apart because of the political, racial, social and other divides in this country. All without boots on the ground in Ukraine. Pretty good investment that could benefit us hugely in the long run. Russia can go fock itself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted May 21, 2022 50 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: But we're basically whipping Russia's ass, weakening them on an epic scale, giving China a big reason not to fock with Taiwan and giving notice to the world that we're not falling apart because of the political, racial, social and other divides in this country. All without boots on the ground in Ukraine. Pretty good investment that could benefit us hugely in the long run. Russia can go fock itself. no, were giving them every reason to nuke us. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,277 Posted May 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: no, were giving them every reason to nuke us. According to rusty every Russian will be dead by Sunday, so they won't be alive to nuke us Share this post Link to post Share on other sites