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17 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

 

Of course Biden doesn’t remember this. He can’t remember what happened yesterday..

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Just read an in depth article on this disgusting creature in todays NY Post. The cases she heard and went light on are really disturbing. There is graphic content in that article that is so incredibly focked up I wouldn’t repeat it. And no, her sentences were not in line with the the norm. This White House  will say anything to push along their agenda and people will gladly repeat their obvious lies. All to protect a pedophile sympathizer.  Which to me makes her defenders scum as well. 

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18 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Just read an in depth article on this disgusting creature in todays NY Post. The cases she heard and went light on are really disturbing. There is graphic content in that article that is so incredibly focked up I wouldn’t repeat it. And no, her sentences were not in line with the the norm. This White House  will say anything to push along their agenda and people will gladly repeat their obvious lies. All to protect a pedophile sympathizer.  Which to me makes her defenders scum as well. 

Yeah, that chick should not be on any court in the US. She is more radically left than any of the nutcase leftists we already have in the government. 

That woman does not belong in the criminal justice system. She should be thrown into prison for some of the sentences she handed out.  

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:dunno: You would think one of them would just say, a women has a c*nt and a man has a dlck.

They are going to put a evil judge on the supreme court.

Welcome to the US folks. The world in now flowing in by the millions through our southern border and all those criminals will be free to roam and not worry if they get caught for spreading child pornography.    

A handful of Biden administration federal agencies were unable to define the meaning of the word "woman" – in some cases, even in relation to their own uses of terms such as "women's health"  –  when asked by Fox News Digital.

The Biden administration's Department of Justice (DOJ), Department of Education, Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) and the Federal Bureau of Prisons were all contacted by Fox News Digital requesting a definition of "woman." None of the agencies provided their definition or criteria for an individual to be categorized as a "woman," despite each boasting entire initiatives aimed at helping women and DOJ declined to comment.

Fox News Digital also reached out to the National Institutes of Health (NIH) to request the organization's definition of "woman" in relation to terms such as "women's rights" and "women's healthcare." NIH describes itself as "the steward of medical and behavioral research for the Nation," and its purpose as "[seeking] fundamental knowledge about the nature and behavior of living systems."

When asked for the definition, the NIH directed Fox News Digital to its website section on "sex and gender." 

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The left has started their tactics of claiming this woman is having racism used against her and how they’re treating her like Sh1t. When you bring up Kavanaugh they’re like “oH tHaTs DiFfErEnT”

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Guys let's be the good RINOs we are and just wait and see. Sure eight times giving the minimum sentences to pedophiles is a lot but it's not twenty. And yeab, maybe she shouldn't have apologized to the pedophile but hey we are all human. After all she is a black woman and I sure ain't racist or sexist so we should support the nomination.

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It’s not just the child pornography she consistently goes light on. She lets actual child rapists off easy as well. 

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8 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It’s not just the child pornography she consistently goes light on. She lets actual child rapists off easy as well. 

That doesn't sound reasonable. I have a few pictures of my daughter when she was maybe 3 or 4 and she is naked, is that considered child pornography? Would you please give facts in the cases you are describing. 

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4 minutes ago, peenie said:

That doesn't sound reasonable. I have a few pictures of my daughter when she was maybe 3 or 4 and she is naked, is that considered child pornography? Would you please give facts in the cases you are describing. 

No. You think someone gets in front of a federal judge on child porn or child rape charges because of anything close to what you describe? For a group of people that are continually going on about the system, y’all sure don’t know much about how it works.   🇺🇦 

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10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No. You think someone gets in front of a federal judge on child porn or child rape charges because of anything close to what you describe? For a group of people that are continually going on about the system, y’all sure don’t know much about how it works.   🇺🇦 

All I'm asking is for you to provide some proof that she lets people who are child pornographers off. I need something other than your type written word. 

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10 minutes ago, peenie said:

All I'm asking is for you to provide some proof that she lets people who are child pornographers off. I need something other than your type written word. 

Look it up. It’s not a secret. The NY Post has an article about it.  🇺🇦 

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29 minutes ago, peenie said:

All I'm asking is for you to provide some proof that she lets people who are child pornographers off. I need something other than your type written word. 

Jeez peenie. You may not like the source, but the numbers are accurate.

 

Judge Jackson’s sentences have been dramatically lower than comparable averages for both child pornography cases, specifically, and all criminal cases, in general.

 

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-publishes-review-of-judge-jacksons-soft-on-crime-track-record

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I don't follow the confirmation proceedings because it's all for show, her confirmation is a foregone conclusion, and I don't have time. But in regards to child pornography, there'd be a difference between people who make content abusing children and people who distribute the photos/videos amongst themselves.

I'm going out on a limb here, but people don't get hauled before a federal court unless they are deeply involved in the enterprise in some way: making content or selling and distributing photos/videos.

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1 hour ago, Utilit99 said:

Jeez peenie. You may not like the source, but the numbers are accurate.

 

Judge Jackson’s sentences have been dramatically lower than comparable averages for both child pornography cases, specifically, and all criminal cases, in general.

 

https://www.cruz.senate.gov/newsroom/press-releases/sen-cruz-publishes-review-of-judge-jacksons-soft-on-crime-track-record

No, I trust those numbers. Yeah, that is whack. One train I'm not on is the: Give her a seat because she's black and she's a woman. 

I just don't want her unfairly judged because she's black and she's a woman. 

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41 minutes ago, peenie said:

No, I trust those numbers. Yeah, that is whack. One train I'm not on is the: Give her a seat because she's black and she's a woman. 

I just don't want her unfairly judged because she's black and she's a woman. 

:thumbsup: Agreed. But black women are creepy joe's main priority these days.

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42 minutes ago, peenie said:

No, I trust those numbers. Yeah, that is whack. One train I'm not on is the: Give her a seat because she's black and she's a woman. 

I just don't want her unfairly judged because she's black and she's a woman. 

Peenie, I'd like to head your thoughts on some things if you don't mind. What's on my mind is kind of heavy and a lot of questions that will take some thought and many posts, but I'll take them one at a time and I hope you engage. I'm kind of short on black friends. ;)

I think the biggest problem holding back the black community is the ghetto culture and people stuck in that way of thinking: don't work, don't try hard in school, petty crime is OK, accept government handouts, sexual promiscuity, and out of wedlock births, lack of involvement of fathers, shift blame. IMO, its not systemic racism, the system, in fact bends over backwards to promote and engage blacks, for the last 55 years, all our lives, the system has been a great help not a hindrance.

Now Judge Jackson isn't from that world, she's lived a way, way more privileged life than most people have. Her upbringing isn't much different than Justice Kavanaugh's or Gorsich's or Kagan's. This is a credit to her parents, you want a black middle/upper class to emerge. In looking at her or Kamala Harris* I see black women who have had MORE doors open for them, more opportunities because they are black, not less. Now, I don't mind affirmative action when it's helping promising people/students who grew up in and are stuck in black ghetto culture to get out of it. But speaking for myself, when I see black people who grew up in an environment significantly -exponentially- better than the one I grew up in, it builds resentment.

I don't begrudge Judge Jackson this selection, but to me it seems that black skin isn't a factor it's made out to be. When I look at her, I don't see a lick of difference between her life story and that of any of these other rich justices growing up- Clarence Thomas, the son of a farm worker and a maid, and Sonia Sotomayor, whose father had a third grade education, being the exceptions, justices with a backstory I can relate to.

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11 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Peenie, I'd like to head your thoughts on some things if you don't mind. What's on my mind is kind of heavy and a lot of questions that will take some thought and many posts, but I'll take them one at a time and I hope you engage. I'm kind of short on black friends. ;)

I think the biggest problem holding back the black community is the ghetto culture and people stuck in that way of thinking: don't work, don't try hard in school, petty crime is OK, accept government handouts, sexual promiscuity, and out of wedlock births, lack of involvement of fathers, shift blame. IMO, its not systemic racism, the system, in fact bends over backwards to promote and engage blacks, for the last 55 years, all our lives, the system has been a great help not a hindrance.

Now Judge Jackson isn't from that world, she's lived a way, way more privileged life than most people have. Her upbringing isn't much different than Justice Kavanaugh's or Gorsich's or Kagan's. This is a credit to her parents, you want a black middle/upper class to emerge. In looking at her or Kamala Harris* I see black women who have had MORE doors open for them, more opportunities because they are black, not less. Now, I don't mind affirmative action when it's helping promising people/students who grew up in and are stuck in black ghetto culture to get out of it. But speaking for myself, when I see black people who grew up in an environment significantly -exponentially- better than the one I grew up in, it builds resentment.

I don't begrudge Judge Jackson this selection, but to me it seems that black skin isn't a factor it's made out to be. When I look at her, I don't see a lick of difference between her life story and that of any of these other rich justices growing up- Clarence Thomas, the son of a farm worker and a maid, and Sonia Sotomayor, whose father had a third grade education, being the exceptions, justices with a backstory I can relate to.

But you didn’t ask a question….

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12 hours ago, Voltaire said:

Peenie, I'd like to head your thoughts on some things if you don't mind. What's on my mind is kind of heavy and a lot of questions that will take some thought and many posts, but I'll take them one at a time and I hope you engage. I'm kind of short on black friends. ;)

I think the biggest problem holding back the black community is the ghetto culture and people stuck in that way of thinking: don't work, don't try hard in school, petty crime is OK, accept government handouts, sexual promiscuity, and out of wedlock births, lack of involvement of fathers, shift blame. IMO, its not systemic racism, the system, in fact bends over backwards to promote and engage blacks, for the last 55 years, all our lives, the system has been a great help not a hindrance.

Now Judge Jackson isn't from that world, she's lived a way, way more privileged life than most people have. Her upbringing isn't much different than Justice Kavanaugh's or Gorsich's or Kagan's. This is a credit to her parents, you want a black middle/upper class to emerge. In looking at her or Kamala Harris* I see black women who have had MORE doors open for them, more opportunities because they are black, not less. Now, I don't mind affirmative action when it's helping promising people/students who grew up in and are stuck in black ghetto culture to get out of it. But speaking for myself, when I see black people who grew up in an environment significantly -exponentially- better than the one I grew up in, it builds resentment.

I don't begrudge Judge Jackson this selection, but to me it seems that black skin isn't a factor it's made out to be. When I look at her, I don't see a lick of difference between her life story and that of any of these other rich justices growing up- Clarence Thomas, the son of a farm worker and a maid, and Sonia Sotomayor, whose father had a third grade education, being the exceptions, justices with a backstory I can relate to.

Great post.    The parts I highlighted are important and I think is where/why there is such a divide now.   There are a lot of people, like me and Volty, who believe what is in bold.    And then there are a lot of people who say/think that US society is dominated by white supremacy and racism.      How do you bridge that gap between those two positions?   I am not sure you can.   

I worked for a large corporation for 15 yrs.   One of the biggest.    If you changed nothing about my career there except for my skin color I could have been a VP at that company if I had wanted to.   Of course that color would have to be black, not Asian or Indian.   That's not sour grapes, I don't really care.   But if I had done what I did for that company and I was black - they would have been throwing promotions at me as fast as they could.   Which raises two questions; if the system is so irreparably racist then why would I have gotten more opportunities if I was black?     And why is it that at a time when companies large and small would gladly promote people who are AA to better balance the representation in their management workforce - why are they having a hard time finding qualified and ambitious AA's to fill those spots?    I would suggest that the culture we have created is causing that shortage rather than doing what it should - preparing AAs to take their rightful place in those roles.    That's a whole 'nother topic that I'll leave to the side for now. 

A corollary to what I describe above is that I interacted with several AAs in senior leadership roles who were clearly over-promoted because the company was so desperate to put AAs in leadership positions.   We had a guy who was promoted to the most senior position in a department I worked in, he was AA.    He was a disaster.    It was embarrassing for my dept when he would speak at leadership meetings because he was so obviously in over his head and completely unqualified to be in the position he was in.  After about 2 yrs he was quietly demoted and replaced, but the damage to the morale within dept and the respect for our dept by others would take a while to recover.    There were other AA senior leaders who I had a lot of respect for and seemed well suited to their roles.     But there were others that were clearly over-promoted.   And still we could have probably used a few more AAs in senior leadership roles to better balance that group to represent the society we live in (i.e. 15-20% AAs).   

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Once again, no questions but more complaining. You both just basically stated that blacks are lazy sluts that can’t make it unless they are given a job they’re unqualified for….

Let me know when you want me to answer a question. Or do you want me to go tit for tat and tell you what I’ve noticed? You want me to tell you all the unfair discrimination I’ve seen and experienced personally? 

I’m not disagreeing with everything you’ve written but why in this thread does this topic come up? Why the need to discuss how sh1tty black culture and black people are in a thread about a woman in position to be appointed to the Supreme Court. Why not in the thread about the dead rapper’s body on stage? 
 

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On 3/25/2022 at 7:53 PM, KSB2424 said:

 

Geez, that dude has been Kardashian level altered.  

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13 minutes ago, peenie said:

Once again, no questions but more complaining. You both just basically stated that blacks are lazy sluts that can’t make it unless they are given a job they’re unqualified for….

Let me know when you want me to answer a question. Or do you want me to go tit for tat and tell you what I’ve noticed? You want me to tell you all the unfair discrimination I’ve seen and experienced personally? 

I’m not disagreeing with everything you’ve written but why in this thread does this topic come up? Why the need to discuss how sh1tty black culture and black people are in a thread about a woman in position to be appointed to the Supreme Court. Why not in the thread about the dead rapper’s body on stage? 
 

Hmmm, don't remember saying that.     My point/belief is that the policies and culture that we have now is hurting AAs rather than helping them and until we can have an honest appraisal of that - it will get worse rather than better.     My belief is exactly the opposite of what you say - that AAs aren't lazy or somehow in any way "less" than other races.    It's the policies and culture that is holding them back. 

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Hard to believe that they couldn’t find a qualified black woman that wasn’t pro pedophile. 

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I wonder if there isn’t some logical explanation why her sentencing is lower than the average for child pornography? Is that her specialty? How many cases has she heard? What percentage of her cases involved child pornography? Maybe he state gives lighter sentences than other states for the Dave offense? Is her sentencing light across the board? How has she sounded in her ability to answer questions thus far? Does she seem capable? Does her light sentencing of child pornographers mean she can’t make sound decisions? 

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1 minute ago, peenie said:

Once again, no questions but more complaining. You both just basically stated that blacks are lazy sluts that can’t make it unless they are given a job they’re unqualified for….

Let me know when you want me to answer a question. Or do you want me to go tit for tat and tell you what I’ve noticed? You want me to tell you all the unfair discrimination I’ve seen and experienced personally? 

I’m not disagreeing with everything you’ve written but why in this thread does this topic come up? Why the need to discuss how sh1tty black culture and black people are in a thread about a woman in position to be appointed to the SupJusreme Court. Why not in the thread about the dead rapper’s body on stage? 
 

It's the opposite of what I'm saying. Maybe this isn't going to work. Judge Jackson comes from a two parent home and has herself been married for 25+ years. That solid foundation is the recipe for personal and career success that folks of any race should aspire to. She's the exception that proves the rule. Not a lazy slut. 

My point, again, is that it is black urban ghetto culture which is what keeps the black underclass stuck in the economic doldrums for generations, not white racism nor "systemic racism" which are both near zero factors. And you have a point that this (black ghetto culture) has nothing to do about Judge Jackson. For her part, to both her and her parent's credit, is no way a part of ghetto culture. She's been a fully enshrined member of the urban elite culture her entire life - she's essentially a silver-spooned, upper middle class charmed Kirsten Gillibrand prototype life with a darker complexion. That's not criticism, plenty of elites of all races grew up and live that way. Most parents aspire to provide their kids the opportunity that she was provided and in turn provides her own children.

Stay in school, don't do drugs, don't commit crime, work hard, don't have kids before you're married, don't get married until you have a firm financial footing. this is the recipe for how every immigrant group to the US advances over the years.... "every immigrant group" include black migrants from the West Indies and Africa.  Lack of following it is a recipe for despair for anyone of any color - which is particularly true in black ghetto culture. There are plenty of black middle class role models that can serve as examples and hopefully this percolates through the black community.

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1 hour ago, wiffleball said:

Guess I'll have to ask her what qnon is since none of you can explain it or give examples of where they are out there burning down businesses and police stations, blocking roadways and threatening the motorists as well as throwing molotov cocktails at the police along with bricks and frozen water bottles.

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If there were no q anon liberals would invent it. Wait a second…..

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14 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If there were no q anon liberals would invent it. Wait a second…..

Sounds about right.

Liberals never seem to put them (whoever those qnon are) into any real life happenings. It's as if qnon is some ghost that is haunting the world in the minds of libs.

Bunch of little kids being afraid of some made up monster under the bed.

They had to come up with something to try to counter all the real blm and antifa violence in the country. And they still keep trying. Idiots. 

 

 

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The first step or two down each of the QAnon rabbitholes are based on facts. Its when they start putting the pieces together that they start to lose touch with reality. Judge Jackson's willingness to go soft on pedophiles is on record and in turn serves as the foundational fodder for this QAnon theory.

Vomit sees nothing wrong with young girls twerking and supports transgender hormone therapy on young kids. Worms sees nothing wrong with the movie Cuties. I disagree with their assessment but are we going to lump them all in as pedophiles, adults who sexually molest children, or just shake our heads, write them off as having low morality standards, and move on? That seems a bridge too far, so I've never called them that, but its disappointing seeing reasonable, everyday people thinking  that way.  I don't feel that my kids would be unsafe with them, I don't know them, but I also don't want their noted amorality taking root in any neighborhood I want my kids to grew up in. This is 2022, you get pelted and banned from social media and labeled a "racist" for quoting FBI crime statistics or "homophobe" for not wanting to see mediocre men win women's swimming competitions. That's where we are as a society.

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27 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

The first step or two down each of the QAnon rabbitholes are based on facts. Its when they start putting the pieces together that they start to lose touch with reality. Judge Jackson's willingness to go soft on pedophiles is on record and in turn serves as the foundational fodder for this QAnon theory.

Vomit sees nothing wrong with young girls twerking and supports transgender hormone therapy on young kids. Worms sees nothing wrong with the movie Cuties. I disagree with their assessment but are we going to lump them all in as pedophiles, adults who sexually molest children, or just shake our heads, write them off as having low morality standards, and move on? That seems a bridge too far, so I've never called them, that but I also don't want their amorality taking root in any neighborhood I want my kids to grew up in. This is 2022, you get pelted and banned from social media and labeled a "racist" for quoting FBI crime statistics or "homophobe" for not wanting to see mediocre men win women's swimming competitions. That's where we are as a society.

If you don't fight against this bvllshit now, tomorrow will be gone. It all falls into the same category. The liberals are nuts.

Amber Athey fired after likening Kamala Harris’ suit to UPS uniform

[IT'S RACIST!!!!!!]

A conservative writer and commentator says she was fired from a radio job and accused of being racist after joking that a brown suit worn by Vice President Kamala Harris looked like a UPS uniform.

Amber Athey, the Washington editor for The Spectator magazine’s world edition, claimed she lost her regular spot on DC talk station WMAL after she referenced the delivery giant’s slogan in a tweet about Harris’ attire at the State of the Union address.

“Kamala looks like a UPS employee — what can brown do for you?” Athey’s March 1 tweet read. “Nothing good, apparently.”

According to Athey, who recounted her experience in a Spectator column, the tweet initially made no waves.

A few days later, however, Athey “spoke critically of protests in favor of ‘trans kids’ at the University of North Texas” — and, as she wrote, “a group of maniacal left-wing activists who want to chemically castrate children in the name of ‘gender affirmation’ came after me.”

“All of a sudden, the Kamala tweet was being re-framed as racist and dozens of Twitter accounts were bragging about contacting my employers about my ‘bigotry,'” she said.

Her employers at The Spectator “laughed at and promptly deleted the angry emails” and none of her colleagues at WMAL’s morning “O’Connor & Company” show acted as if anything was “amiss.”

But eight days after the tweet, Athey was contacted “out of the blue” by Jeff Boden, the vice president of station owner Cumulus Washington, and human resources VP Kriston Fancellas.

“They told me that the tweet I sent about Kamala was ‘racist’ and that subsequent follow-ups defending myself and making fun of the efforts to cancel me were unacceptable,” she recalled. “I had violated the company’s social media policy, they said, and I was terminated effective immediately.”

Athey insisted that her firing “has destroyed the integrity and reputation of WMAL and Cumulus as hosts of conservative content.”

“We spoke frequently [on the show] about the dangers of censorship and cancel culture on our program, and yet here they are bowing to the mob,” she wrote. “If I can be fired for making fun of the vice president’s outfit, every single host on a Cumulus station is in danger of losing their job at a moment’s notice.”

Athey’s former employer did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2022/04/05/amber-athey-fired-for-likening-kamala-harris-suit-to-ups-uniform/amp/

 

 

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26 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

If you don't fight against this bvllshit now, tomorrow will be gone. It all falls into the same category. The liberals are nuts.

Amber Athey fired after likening Kamala Harris’ suit to UPS uniform

 

A conservative writer and commentator says she was fired from a radio job and accused of being racist after joking that a brown suit worn by Vice President Kamala Harris looked like a UPS uniform.

Amber Athey, the Washington editor for The Spectator magazine’s world edition, claimed she lost her regular spot on DC talk station WMAL after she referenced the delivery giant’s slogan in a tweet about Harris’ attire at the State of the Union address.

“Kamala looks like a UPS employee — what can brown do for you?” Athey’s March 1 tweet read. “Nothing good, apparently.”

According to Athey, who recounted her experience in a Spectator column, the tweet initially made no waves.

A few days later, however, Athey “spoke critically of protests in favor of ‘trans kids’ at the University of North Texas” — and, as she wrote, “a group of maniacal left-wing activists who want to chemically castrate children in the name of ‘gender affirmation’ came after me.”

“All of a sudden, the Kamala tweet was being re-framed as racist and dozens of Twitter accounts were bragging about contacting my employers about my ‘bigotry,'” she said.

Her employers at The Spectator “laughed at and promptly deleted the angry emails” and none of her colleagues at WMAL’s morning “O’Connor & Company” show acted as if anything was “amiss.”

But eight days after the tweet, Athey was contacted “out of the blue” by Jeff Boden, the vice president of station owner Cumulus Washington, and human resources VP Kriston Fancellas.

“They told me that the tweet I sent about Kamala was ‘racist’ and that subsequent follow-ups defending myself and making fun of the efforts to cancel me were unacceptable,” she recalled. “I had violated the company’s social media policy, they said, and I was terminated effective immediately.”

Athey insisted that her firing “has destroyed the integrity and reputation of WMAL and Cumulus as hosts of conservative content.”

“We spoke frequently [on the show] about the dangers of censorship and cancel culture on our program, and yet here they are bowing to the mob,” she wrote. “If I can be fired for making fun of the vice president’s outfit, every single host on a Cumulus station is in danger of losing their job at a moment’s notice.”

Athey’s former employer did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2022/04/05/amber-athey-fired-for-likening-kamala-harris-suit-to-ups-uniform/amp/

 

 

Just spammed what she said on tons of tweets with her in the brown suit :lol: 

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On 4/5/2022 at 10:31 AM, Voltaire said:

It's the opposite of what I'm saying. Maybe this isn't going to work. Judge Jackson comes from a two parent home and has herself been married for 25+ years. That solid foundation is the recipe for personal and career success that folks of any race should aspire to. She's the exception that proves the rule. Not a lazy slut. 

My point, again, is that it is black urban ghetto culture which is what keeps the black underclass stuck in the economic doldrums for generations, not white racism nor "systemic racism" which are both near zero factors. And you have a point that this (black ghetto culture) has nothing to do about Judge Jackson. For her part, to both her and her parent's credit, is no way a part of ghetto culture. She's been a fully enshrined member of the urban elite culture her entire life - she's essentially a silver-spooned, upper middle class charmed Kirsten Gillibrand prototype life with a darker complexion. That's not criticism, plenty of elites of all races grew up and live that way. Most parents aspire to provide their kids the opportunity that she was provided and in turn provides her own children.

Stay in school, don't do drugs, don't commit crime, work hard, don't have kids before you're married, don't get married until you have a firm financial footing. this is the recipe for how every immigrant group to the US advances over the years.... "every immigrant group" include black migrants from the West Indies and Africa.  Lack of following it is a recipe for despair for anyone of any color - which is particularly true in black ghetto culture. There are plenty of black middle class role models that can serve as examples and hopefully this percolates through the black community.

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-marriage-divide-how-and-why-working-class-families-are-more-fragile-today

Read the article instead of any of us demonizing the poor or black culture (which has been perverted by hip hop culture and whose fault that is…poor needy and oftentimes ignorant hood kids or the greedy brainless business end of the music industry that is so influential on the youth and public in general???)

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1 hour ago, peenie said:

https://ifstudies.org/blog/the-marriage-divide-how-and-why-working-class-families-are-more-fragile-today

Read the article instead of any of us demonizing the poor or black culture (which has been perverted by hip hop culture and whose fault that is…poor needy and oftentimes ignorant hood kids or the greedy brainless business end of the music industry that is so influential on the youth and public in general???)

Fascinating article, thanks.  Interesting that it never once mentioned race.  Perhaps that is your point; that it is a socioeconomic issue, not race.  I think that there is a lot of truth to this, and have in fact argued it on many fronts.  That being said, correlation does not mean causation, and since they do not break down the numbers by race or ethnicity, it is impossible to allocate relative causality.  In other words, there can be racial or ethnic cultural factors as well.

In fact the article talks much about cultural factors in general, which reminds me of the concept of "luxury beliefs."  I've posted the original blog by Rob Henderson; I just looked and he has a followup.  One of many allusions to luxury beliefs from your link:

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Third, in recent years, middle- and upper-class Americans have rejected the most permissive dimensions of the counterculture for themselves and their children, even as poor and working-class Americans have adapted a more permissive orientation toward matters such as divorce and premarital sex.24 The end result has been that key norms, values, and virtues—from fidelity to attitudes about teen pregnancy—that sustain a strong marriage culture are now generally weaker in poor and working-class communities.25

Here is his latest blog on the subject:

https://quillette.com/2019/11/16/thorstein-veblens-theory-of-the-leisure-class-a-status-update/

It provides remarkable insight into the liberal elite, and IMO goes a long way to answering vexing questions like, "how did we get to the point where we as a society are encouraging the genital mutilation of confused minors?"  It also explains our preoccupation with wealth inequality -- you can argue (rightfully so, in the US anyway) that a rising tide has lifted all boats economically, but that doesn't matter, because some people have MORE more, and that matters more more.  :cheers: 

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17 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Fascinating article, thanks.  Interesting that it never once mentioned race.  Perhaps that is your point; that it is a socioeconomic issue, not race.  I think that there is a lot of truth to this, and have in fact argued it on many fronts.  That being said, correlation does not mean causation, and since they do not break down the numbers by race or ethnicity, it is impossible to allocate relative causality.  In other words, there can be racial or ethnic cultural factors as well.

In fact the article talks much about cultural factors in general, which reminds me of the concept of "luxury beliefs."  I've posted the original blog by Rob Henderson; I just looked and he has a followup.  One of many allusions to luxury beliefs from your link:

Here is his latest blog on the subject:

https://quillette.com/2019/11/16/thorstein-veblens-theory-of-the-leisure-class-a-status-update/

It provides remarkable insight into the liberal elite, and IMO goes a long way to answering vexing questions like, "how did we get to the point where we as a society are encouraging the genital mutilation of confused minors?"  It also explains our preoccupation with wealth inequality -- you can argue (rightfully so, in the US anyway) that a rising tide has lifted all boats economically, but that doesn't matter, because some people have MORE more, and that matters more more.  :cheers: 

Thank you for actually reading the article. The point I was trying to make is that a lot of the problems you see in the black community are due to concentrated poverty, isolation, no access to resources (like birth control, at least in my day, now condoms are common in stores and heck stores (CVS/Walgreens/Walmart) are even more common than back in my time) unemployment, crime, food deserts and poor education. Low marriage rates may be more related to economics and the culture produced in a poor society not necessarily a black one.

Also, ride or die girls don’t the ring. Meaning, girls from the hood that stood by their man and helped him become successful often get dumped when he reaches his goal. Why? Because he can now afford the woman of his dreams to marry. The old girlfriend reminds him of the poverty and life he no longer wants to remember. 

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confirmed. And can mitt romney just go away please?

Why is it that when liberals want a black woman so bad in a high position, they always pick the dumbest ones.

"Ukraine is a country in Europe. Russia is a bigger country. I've been to the border. [No you haven't]. ....And I haven't been to Europe either. [cackle cackle cackle]..You're going to see the moon, WITH YOUR VERY OWN EYES! Can you believe that!???"

Next up...

"Can you tell me what a woman is?"

 "No."

....

Dear God liberals are stupid.

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10 minutes ago, Utilit99 said:

Why is it that when liberals want a black woman so bad in a high position, they always pick the dumbest ones.

Nice softball...

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Just now, posty said:

Nice softball...

Even I had to let that one go by.

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Just now, Cdub100 said:

Even I had to let that one go by.

:lol: 

Yep...

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