Chronic Fockster 106 Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: This is breaking news. ALERT. Russia is finalizing plans for a nuclear strike on NATO. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-state-tv-tells-putin-to-finalize-plans-for-nuclear-strike-on-nato/ar-AA11SEaw Thats not what that says Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Chronic Fockster said: Thats not what that says It says russian media is telling putin to finalize plans to nuke NATO. But putin is the russian media. So its putin just declaring his intentions. Learn to understand russian media structure. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted September 16, 2022 6 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: It says russian media is telling putin to finalize plans to nuke NATO. But putin is the russian media. So its putin just declaring his intentions. Learn to understand russian media structure. The video is centered around a response to a nuclear strike from NATO. Do you actually think NATO is going to nuke Russia? I've watched quite a bit of this Russian TV show. This is what they do. It's propaganda aimed at getting their population to support the "special military operation" in Ukraine. Demonizing NATO is part of that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,840 Posted September 16, 2022 If there's any nuking, I hope they wait until the 25th. I'm going on a week long fishing trip tomorrow morning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 16, 2022 12 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said: The video is centered around a response to a nuclear strike from NATO. Do you actually think NATO is going to nuke Russia? Thank you for actually asking for clarification. If this was rusty he'd just assume some lie and run with it. Let's recap what I have been saying in this thread for a week or so. 1. Ukraine initiated a major counter offensive in the war. 2. Putin must respond to this at some point. 3. I heard a rumor that Putin's plan is to detonate a "test nuke" in his own country and then demand Ukraine surrender. If that fails, he will start nuking for real. 4. A few days later, Russian media (which is really just Putin's voice), accuses NATO of nuclear blackmail (basically turning the argument around on NATO), and says they should finalize plans for nuking NATO. 5. So that's Putin trying to drum up support in his own country for nuking NATO by saying NATO is about to nuke Russia. Its also Putin saying he is finalizing plans to nuke NATO without overtly saying it. I got a laugh emoticon on that explanation, so I assume someone thinks Putin does not control Russian media. Whatever. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 16, 2022 the general premise of this thread is that Putin CANNOT win WW3 conventionally with the West. It is impossible. So at some point he has to nuke the West unless they cede to his demands. And this is huge news because now we clearly see how he will try to justify it. He is saying NATO is threatening to nuke NATO. It doesn't matter if that's true or not. He will sell it to his people. And then he will nuke NATO. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,023 Posted September 16, 2022 Originally, the argument when Russia didn't just roll over Ukraine was that Russia didn't want all of Ukraine. They just wanted the East and forays towards Kiev and out of the Donestk regions and surrounding areas were gambits to get Ukraine to spread their forces. Now that Ukraine is taking back some of those lands that Russia supposedly didn't even want, Russia is going to nuke Ukraine in retaliation? Then it was Russia is going to roll over Ukraine and invade Europe by winter and then the world would have to capitulate or get nuked, but now it's Russia knows it can't win a conventional war so it will nuke everyone because... why? No one is invading Russia. Russia is invading Ukraine. There is no existential threat to Russia that would cause them to use nukes. It's weird that the story keeps changing over and over and over and over again. It's almost like people don't know what they're talking about. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Fockster 106 Posted September 16, 2022 At one point Putin was gonna nuke the west to stop the mutiliation of children's genitals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, JustinCharge said: Thank you for actually asking for clarification. If this was rusty he'd just assume some lie and run with it. Let's recap what I have been saying in this thread for a week or so. 1. Ukraine initiated a major counter offensive in the war. 2. Putin must respond to this at some point. 3. I heard a rumor that Putin's plan is to detonate a "test nuke" in his own country and then demand Ukraine surrender. If that fails, he will start nuking for real. 4. A few days later, Russian media (which is really just Putin's voice), accuses NATO of nuclear blackmail (basically turning the argument around on NATO), and says they should finalize plans for nuking NATO. 5. So that's Putin trying to drum up support in his own country for nuking NATO by saying NATO is about to nuke Russia. Its also Putin saying he is finalizing plans to nuke NATO without overtly saying it. I got a laugh emoticon on that explanation, so I assume someone thinks Putin does not control Russian media. Whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 16, 2022 Putin has threatened to nuke the west a zillion times. Note that, now watch this video. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: idiot. I've been talking about rumors quite a bit in this thread. But thanks for being a daily joke on this forum. We all laugh at you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Fockster 106 Posted September 16, 2022 4 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: idiot. I've been talking about rumors quite a bit in this thread. But thanks for being a daily joke on this forum. We all laugh at you. As we do you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 16, 2022 13 minutes ago, Chronic Fockster said: As we do you. your bots are hilariously dumb. keep moving the goalposts because i keep being correct about things. id love to be wrong about nuclear war tho. truly. no one likes you guys here. you are broken with TDS, sky scream, and bite your pillows daily after taking a verbal beating in the GC. i hear you crying from over here. so sad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Fockster 106 Posted September 16, 2022 10 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: your bots are hilariously dumb. keep moving the goalposts because i keep being correct about things. id love to be wrong about nuclear war tho. truly. no one likes you guys here. you are broken with TDS, sky scream, and bite your pillows daily after taking a verbal beating in the GC. i hear you crying from over here. so sad. OK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chronic Fockster said: OK. chronic dumpster is OK with being a dumpster fire! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chronic Fockster 106 Posted September 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: chronic dumpster is OK with being a dumpster fire! I'm just glad I will get nuked by end of year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 1,838 Posted September 16, 2022 29 minutes ago, Chronic Fockster said: I'm just glad I will get nuked by end of year. I’m hoping we get nuked a bit earlier. Just so Justin will STFU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 3,939 Posted September 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, OldMaid said: I’m hoping we get nuked a bit earlier. Just so Justin will STFU. But not on a Friday, do it at 8ish EST Monday so I don't have to go to work. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted September 17, 2022 7 hours ago, JustinCharge said: your bots are hilariously dumb. keep moving the goalposts because i keep being correct about things. id love to be wrong about nuclear war tho. truly. no one likes you guys here. you are broken with TDS, sky scream, and bite your pillows daily after taking a verbal beating in the GC. i hear you crying from over here. so sad. You need autocorrect on your predictions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 17, 2022 Idiot Biden just issued a stern red line warning to Russia to not use nukes. That weak response changes nothing. https://www.newsweek.com/putin-using-nuke-ukraine-would-bring-consequential-us-response-biden-1743921 Putin Using Nuke in Ukraine Would Bring 'Consequential' US Response: Biden BY THOMAS KIKA ON 9/17/22 AT 11:00 AM EDT The United States has issued a stern warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin over the use of nuclear weapons in its continued invasion of Ukraine. President Joe Biden was interviewed for this Sunday's edition of 60 Minutes, his first appearance on the long-running news program since his election, where he was asked by Scott Pelley about the potential deployment of "chemical or tactical nuclear weapons" by Russia as it suffers embarrassing setbacks in its invasion. Biden's response was blunt. "Don't. Don't. Don't," the president said. "You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II." Pelley then pressed Biden for details about what the U.S. response would be to such actions, to which Biden said that he would not share any details if he knew them. He only stressed that the response would be "consequential." "[Russia] will become more of a pariah in the world than they ever have been," Biden added. "And depending on the extent of what they do will determine what response would occur." Meanwhile, the Kremlin responded to Biden's warning that Putin should not resort to weapons of mass destruction. Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told reporters on Saturday that they should "read the doctrine." The country's nuclear doctrine says the use of nuclear weapons might follow "an aggression against Russia or its ally with the use of mass destruction weapons" or if the country faced aggression "when the very existence of the state is under threat." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,023 Posted September 17, 2022 I thought part of the reason Putin was going to nuke the US is Biden would immediately surrender. Wouldn't it make sense that Biden should make it clear that surrender is not on the table? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, JustinCharge said: Idiot Biden just issued a stern red line warning to Russia to not use nukes. That weak response changes nothing. https://www.newsweek.com/putin-using-nuke-ukraine-would-bring-consequential-us-response-biden-1743921 Putin Using Nuke in Ukraine Would Bring 'Consequential' US Response: Biden BY THOMAS KIKA ON 9/17/22 AT 11:00 AM EDT The United States has issued a stern warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin over the use of nuclear weapons in its continued invasion of Ukraine. President Joe Biden was interviewed for this Sunday's edition of 60 Minutes, his first appearance on the long-running news program since his election, where he was asked by Scott Pelley about the potential deployment of "chemical or tactical nuclear weapons" by Russia as it suffers embarrassing setbacks in its invasion. Biden's response was blunt. "Don't. Don't. Don't," the president said. "You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II." Pelley then pressed Biden for details about what the U.S. response would be to such actions, to which Biden said that he would not share any details if he knew them. He only stressed that the response would be "consequential." "[Russia] will become more of a pariah in the world than they ever have been," Biden added. "And depending on the extent of what they do will determine what response would occur." Meanwhile, the Kremlin responded to Biden's warning that Putin should not resort to weapons of mass destruction. Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told reporters on Saturday that they should "read the doctrine." The country's nuclear doctrine says the use of nuclear weapons might follow "an aggression against Russia or its ally with the use of mass destruction weapons" or if the country faced aggression "when the very existence of the state is under threat." Russia has been threatening to use nukes for more than 60 years, according to rumors and sources. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted September 18, 2022 3 hours ago, JustinCharge said: Idiot Biden just issued a stern red line warning to Russia to not use nukes. That weak response changes nothing. https://www.newsweek.com/putin-using-nuke-ukraine-would-bring-consequential-us-response-biden-1743921 Putin Using Nuke in Ukraine Would Bring 'Consequential' US Response: Biden BY THOMAS KIKA ON 9/17/22 AT 11:00 AM EDT The United States has issued a stern warning to Russian President Vladimir Putin over the use of nuclear weapons in its continued invasion of Ukraine. President Joe Biden was interviewed for this Sunday's edition of 60 Minutes, his first appearance on the long-running news program since his election, where he was asked by Scott Pelley about the potential deployment of "chemical or tactical nuclear weapons" by Russia as it suffers embarrassing setbacks in its invasion. Biden's response was blunt. "Don't. Don't. Don't," the president said. "You will change the face of war unlike anything since World War II." Pelley then pressed Biden for details about what the U.S. response would be to such actions, to which Biden said that he would not share any details if he knew them. He only stressed that the response would be "consequential." "[Russia] will become more of a pariah in the world than they ever have been," Biden added. "And depending on the extent of what they do will determine what response would occur." Meanwhile, the Kremlin responded to Biden's warning that Putin should not resort to weapons of mass destruction. Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, told reporters on Saturday that they should "read the doctrine." The country's nuclear doctrine says the use of nuclear weapons might follow "an aggression against Russia or its ally with the use of mass destruction weapons" or if the country faced aggression "when the very existence of the state is under threat." I wouldn't call "a consequential response" to a nuclear attack on Ukraine as a stern red line. It's intentionally vague. A stern red line would be "if you use nukes on Ukraine, we will use Nukes on you" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 18, 2022 52 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said: I wouldn't call "a consequential response" to a nuclear attack on Ukraine as a stern red line. It's intentionally vague. A stern red line would be "if you use nukes on Ukraine, we will use Nukes on you" not even Obama gave specifics when he used the term "red line". thats all biden is doing here. he is using Obama's vague and pathetic "red line" doctrine without using the phrase "red line". "In 2012, President Barack Obama said that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons against his own people would be a “red line” that would cause the U.S. to interfere militarily in the ongoing crisis in the country. But even after evidence emerged that Assad had used sarin gas against civilians, Obama declined to order airstrikes." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r47f0p4mGEo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted September 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: not even Obama gave specifics when he used the term "red line". thats all biden is doing here. he is using Obama's vague and pathetic "red line" doctrine without using the phrase "red line". "In 2012, President Barack Obama said that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad’s use of chemical weapons against his own people would be a “red line” that would cause the U.S. to interfere militarily in the ongoing crisis in the country. But even after evidence emerged that Assad had used sarin gas against civilians, Obama declined to order airstrikes." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r47f0p4mGEo Right. Obama and Biden had different responses. Biden never said "red line". Just "consequential" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Brad GLuckman said: Right. Obama and Biden had different responses. Biden never said "red line". Just "consequential" but we know what hes doing. he wants to say red line but he knows obama rooned that word. so hes saying red line without using the term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 20, 2022 Russia fired a missile that hit 300 yards from a nuclear power plant in Ukraine. Putin called it a "warning strike". Ukraine denounced it as nuclear terrorism. I assume unless Ukraine pulls back from its recent gains, Russia will actually start bombing all of Ukraine's nuclear power plants. https://www.yahoo.com/news/ukraine-says-russian-missile-struck-075740331.html KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — A Russian missile blasted a crater close to a nuclear power plant in southern Ukraine on Monday, damaging nearby industrial equipment but not hitting its three reactors. Ukrainian authorities denounced the move as an act of “nuclear terrorism.” The missile struck within 300 meters (328 yards) of the reactors at the South Ukraine Nuclear Power Plant near the city of Yuzhnoukrainsk in Mykolaiv province, leaving a hole 2 meters (6 1/2 feet) deep and 4 meters (13 feet) wide, according to Ukrainian nuclear operator Energoatom. The reactors were operating normally and no employees were injured, it said. But the proximity of the strike renewed fears that Russia's nearly 7-month-long war in Ukraine might produce a radiation disaster. The ministry and Energoatom called the strike “nuclear terrorism.” While warning Friday of a possible ramp-up of strikes, Putin claimed his forces had so far acted with restraint but warned “if the situation develops this way, our response will be more serious." “Just recently, the Russian armed forces have delivered a couple of impactful strikes,” he said. ”Let’s consider those as warning strikes.” Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 20, 2022 whats about to happen is this. 1. Putin's next missiles will directly hit Ukraines nuclear power plants. 2. The West will officially declare this the first nuclear war in human history. 3. Russia will imply that if Ukraine doesnt surrender completely, tactical nukes are next. 4. NATO will start saber rattling big time. 5. Putin will counter that if NATO foes anything, Putin will nuke London, NYC, etc. As I said before, this is the MOST IMPORTANT EVENT of our lives. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 589 Posted September 20, 2022 26 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: whats about to happen is this. 1. Putin's next missiles will directly hit Ukraines nuclear power plants. 2. The West will officially declare this the first nuclear war in human history. 3. Russia will imply that if Ukraine doesnt surrender completely, tactical nukes are next. 4. NATO will start saber rattling big time. 5. Putin will counter that if NATO foes anything, Putin will nuke London, NYC, etc. As I said before, this is the MOST IMPORTANT EVENT of our lives. Did you see Mike Williams go off last week? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 20, 2022 this is really extremely serious. i dont think this is getting across. if Putin actually hits the plant with missiles, well, they store loads of radioactive waste there that would get blown sky high and not just contaminate Ukraine but the fallout can reach several other nations. that may be WW3 right there. they missed WW3 by 300 yards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 589 Posted September 20, 2022 22 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: this is really extremely serious. i dont think this is getting across. if Putin actually hits the plant with missiles, well, they store loads of radioactive waste there that would get blown sky high and not just contaminate Ukraine but the fallout can reach several other nations. that may be WW3 right there. they missed WW3 by 300 yards. You think Herbert's gonna play through his broken ribs this week? Should I pick up Carson Wentz and play him instead? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted September 20, 2022 https://tenor.com/view/the-sky-is-falling-chicken-little-chicken-gif-10820080 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 20, 2022 theres been a lot of talk about how there are multiple checks on Russia firing nukes, where Putin could issue the order and Russian officers could ignore the order. Well, this is the loophole. Putin can order conventional missiles fired - at nuclear power plants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 20, 2022 1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said: https://tenor.com/view/the-sky-is-falling-chicken-little-chicken-gif-10820080 as i said, when the end comes, and its nuclear war, itll be people like you making fart noises. thats how we go out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JustinCharge 2,397 Posted September 20, 2022 Biden to Russia: dont make this a nuclear war because if you do, you will be even MORE of a pariah. What the FOCK kind of leadership is that, Biden? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,204 Posted September 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, JustinCharge said: as i said, when the end comes, and its nuclear war, itll be people like you making fart noises. thats how we go out. No, I'll be making loud chuckling noises and laughing at you, as will the rest of us. https://w2.countingdownto.com/4328562 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,444 Posted September 20, 2022 As long as there is FFT in heaven I am good with whatever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,023 Posted September 20, 2022 If Putin shoved a missile up some nuclear plant's ass, wouldn't fallout drift into Russia? Seems counter-productive, but it seems like we like to ignore common sense when it comes to Putin. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nobody 2,023 Posted September 20, 2022 I guess the other aspect of this is it would likely take a slew of missile strikes to even spread nuclear radiation. Those plants are built to withstand quite a pounding. But I guess it's important that we all get super scared. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted September 21, 2022 https://twitter.com/Furiomasters/status/1229757892502466561?t=ZK3JXpk156QwK6qaieVtnw&s=19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites