GutterBoy 2,281 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Utilit99 said: Ok. So you are fine with the black people in Africa enslaving their own people and selling them to the highest bidders around the world. Interesting take. Of course not. Please die. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Of course not. Please die. angry munchkin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: No, a good person can't be racist. Hating someone for the color of their skin specifically makes someone a bad person. So regardless of what someone has done in their life if they don't like a minority group they are automatically a bad person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: So regardless of what someone has done in their life if they don't like a minority group they are automatically a bad person? Fock that. Some minority groups are historically easy to hate. And should be hated because they are notoriously bad at running a country. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted May 13, 2022 12 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: So regardless of what someone has done in their life if they don't like a minority group they are automatically a bad person? So if someone donates their time and money to help the less fortunate, but only a certain color of skin, well, that's gotta pretty pretty rare, but they would probably be misguided. From my experience, anyone who hates an entire group of people based on skin color is always a piece of sh!t and has never done much that would qualify them as a "good person" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,281 Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Fock that. Some minority groups are historically easy to hate. And should be hated because they are notoriously bad at running a country. exhibit a 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, GutterBoy said: So if someone donates their time and money to help the less fortunate, but only a certain color of skin, well, that's gotta pretty pretty rare, but they would probably be misguided. From my experience, anyone who hates an entire group of people based on skin color is always a piece of sh!t and has never done much that would qualify them as a "good person" So you really look at color of skin a lot? Sounds like you have the problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,311 Posted May 13, 2022 56 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: Why do you care so much about who and who doesn't like black people? Can a good person be racist? Good lord, you are really far gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: Good lord, you are really far gone. Good lord, you are so self righteous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 3,311 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Utilit99 said: Good lord, you are so self righteous. Self righteous because I think it’s wrong to hate an entire race of people? This is what the right wing has come to. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 13, 2022 21 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: So if someone donates their time and money to help the less fortunate, but only a certain color of skin, well, that's gotta pretty pretty rare, but they would probably be misguided. From my experience, anyone who hates an entire group of people based on skin color is always a piece of sh!t and has never done much that would qualify them as a "good person" What if you don’t don’t like the entire race? I like Denzel and Whitney Houston. Am I capable of love? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Self righteous because I think it’s wrong to hate an entire race of people? This is what the right wing has come to. I think so too. I like Shaq Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: Self righteous because I think it’s wrong to hate an entire race of people? This is what the right wing has come to. Who hates a whole race of people? Want me to post a million articles about white racism and white fragility and etc...? Obama did all this and you fell hook, line, and sinker for all this race shlt. Your memory is classically reduced to rubble. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: I think so too. I like Shaq Shaqs pretty cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, iam90sbaby said: Shaqs pretty cool Big cop supporter. He knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 13, 2022 28 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Good lord, you are really far gone. I don't hate black people. I just don't like the current mainstream American black culture. Im just really wondering.. can a racist be a good person? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,799 Posted May 13, 2022 Just now, iam90sbaby said: I don't hate black people. I just don't like the current mainstream American black culture. Im just really wondering.. can I racist be a good person? No Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Big cop supporter. He knows. His stepdad bought me an ice cream at a carwash in Lake Mary FL back in the 90s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 13, 2022 1 minute ago, TimHauck said: No So a person who contributes to society that has never committed a crime is always a bad person no matter what if they are racist? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said: His stepdad bought me an ice cream at a carwash in Lake Mary FL back in the 90s Nice . He talks about his stepdad a lot. Sounds like a great man. Army lifer. His biological didn’t bother. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 985 Posted May 14, 2022 3 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: So a person who contributes to society that has never committed a crime is always a bad person no matter what if they are racist? Why don't you stop asking questions and start telling us? You think you know everything. You don't care about anyone's opinion anyway; you just want to one up them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,799 Posted May 14, 2022 4 hours ago, iam90sbaby said: So a person who contributes to society that has never committed a crime is always a bad person no matter what if they are racist? Yes. And racism aside, there are a lot of “bad people” that never committed a crime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gladiators 1,904 Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yes. And racism aside, there are a lot of “bad people” that never committed a crime Agreed. There are a lot of unvaccinated people out there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yes. And racism aside, there are a lot of “bad people” that never committed a crime Liberals. But their crimes are numerous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 14, 2022 It’s what you do not what you say Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted May 14, 2022 10 hours ago, TimHauck said: Yes. And racism aside, there are a lot of “bad people” that never committed a crime Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,799 Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, iam90sbaby said: Why? Because a good person wouldn’t dislike someone despite knowing nothing about them besides what they look like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Because a good person wouldn’t dislike someone despite knowing nothing about them besides what they look like Why bring Joy Reid into this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,198 Posted May 14, 2022 14 hours ago, TimHauck said: Yes. And racism aside, there are a lot of “bad people” that never committed a crime I think we need to define "racism" and "bad". I have some opinions that many would find racist, but I don't. To me, racism is a general hatred of of a race or ethnicity for no defendable reason. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I think we need to define "racism" and "bad". I have some opinions that many would find racist, but I don't. To me, racism is a general hatred of of a race or ethnicity for no defendable reason. Right. So if you have a defendable reason it's not racism. Something like violent crime stats for instance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,198 Posted May 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Utilit99 said: Right, so if you have a defendable reason it's not racism. Something like violent crime stats for instance. Yes, to an extent. If I'm walking down a street and, say, two male black teens are walking towards me, I'm more likely to cross the street than if I see two male white teens. Part of that is the psychology of tribes, but part is the statistics of young male black teens and violence. I don't apologize for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Yes, to an extent. If I'm walking down a street and, say, two male black teens are walking towards me, I'm more likely to cross the street than if I see two male white teens. Part of that is the psychology of tribes, but part is the statistics of young male black teens and violence. I don't apologize for it. And you shouldn't. It's called erring on the side of caution based upon history. Back when I lived in rough neighborhoods, or even if I find myself in one of them these days, my senses were always on full alert. Actually even if it's a good neighborhood. It's reducing possible conflict based on facts. And I don't care if the roles are reversed. If black people do the same, fine with me. Caution is a basic self preservation technique. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,184 Posted May 14, 2022 41 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Yes, to an extent. If I'm walking down a street and, say, two male black teens are walking towards me, I'm more likely to cross the street than if I see two male white teens. Part of that is the psychology of tribes, but part is the statistics of young male black teens and violence. I don't apologize for it. It's subconscious racism in that instance. It's the whole idea of built-in or institutional racism that so many on the right run for. None of that makes you necessarily a bad person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It's subconscious racism in that instance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,631 Posted May 14, 2022 44 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: It's subconscious racism in that instance. It's the whole idea of built-in or institutional racism that so many on the right run for. None of that makes you necessarily a bad person. Of course it’s racism. But if white kids wearing cowboy hats were doing all the violence and you avoided them, that wouldn’t be ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,198 Posted May 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said: It's subconscious racism in that instance. It's the whole idea of built-in or institutional racism that so many on the right run for. None of that makes you necessarily a bad person. I don't think it is racism; you are from the party of science, you should understand. In this case, math. If my math is wrong, let me know. And it is not a 100% go/no-go thing. If I see three black guys in pinstripe suits like the recent Tacoma commercial, not crossing. Three white kids with red bandanas, crossing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 1,799 Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: I think we need to define "racism" and "bad". I have some opinions that many would find racist, but I don't. To me, racism is a general hatred of of a race or ethnicity for no defendable reason. Yeah I think that’s a fair definition of racism. ”Bad” of course is subjective. An example of a “bad” person that hasn’t committed a crime IMO would be someone that cheats on their spouse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 5,198 Posted May 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Yeah I think that’s a fair definition of racism. ”Bad” of course is subjective. An example of a “bad” person that hasn’t committed a crime IMO would be someone that cheats on their spouse. Fair definition of "bad", but your example is also a behavior, not a thought/attitude. Do you think someone can be bad based solely on a belief, if they never act on it? I don't know the answer, but I'm inclined to say no. In fact I could argue that, say, a person that thinks black people are just bad, but doesn't let that influence his hiring practices, is behaving in a "less bad" way than a woke person who hires a black woman 'cause woke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,639 Posted May 14, 2022 So, more babies, less baby formula. Well that seems like a good idea.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,485 Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/9/2022 at 10:01 AM, Baker Boy said: And many states will have abortion up until birth laws. On 5/9/2022 at 10:07 AM, IGotWorms said: Is that actually a thing other than like the baby is going to be born without a brain or something? NYC Mayor Adams calls for 'no' limitations on abortion Share this post Link to post Share on other sites