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5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So the folks that think mothers having abortions should be charged with murder (I know this does not include you) think that’s the case starting with conception, correct?

 

It's not against the law to have an abortion during early term of pregnancy so I don't think people think those mothers that abort (legally) should be charged for murder.  They could argue it is murder though.  Abortion = murder.  The unborn has no say in an abortion and the mother chose to abort.  As did the doctor. 

Also, I find it odd you calling the pregnant woman mother.  Calling her mother at that stage kind of indicates you do understand the unborn is human life, even between 1 day and 20 weeks.

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Murder, by definition, is the unlawful killing of another.  It's arbitrary based upon the laws in place at the time of the abortion.  So can we please stop with the talk about murder.  Unless we're talking back alley abortions no one is committing murder when performing abortions.  Even place like PP stop performing abortions in states where it isn't legal.

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Most women that get one are using abortion as birth control. This also is a fact. 

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I see @TimHauckhas a bunch of questions again; it's important that he gets them answered, so that he can ask even more questions!  :thumbsup:

 

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28 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

 

It's not against the law to have an abortion during early term of pregnancy so I don't think people think those mothers that abort (legally) should be charged for murder.  They could argue it is murder though.  Abortion = murder.  The unborn has no say in an abortion and the mother chose to abort.  As did the doctor. 

Also, I find it odd you calling the pregnant woman mother.  Calling her mother at that stage kind of indicates you do understand the unborn is human life, even between 1 day and 20 weeks.

I’m just trying to follow the logic of someone like @Baker Boy, who seems to be saying there’s no difference between a newborn baby and a newly conceived one. If that’s the case, then he (or anyone that thinks all abortion is murder) should think anti-abortion laws should start at conception.

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51 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

 

It's not against the law to have an abortion during early term of pregnancy so I don't think people think those mothers that abort (legally) should be charged for murder. 

Sorry, this is a bit out of date. Abortion is actually banned from the moment of conception in some states now since Roe got overturned: Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

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40 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Sorry, this is a bit out of date. Abortion is actually banned from the moment of conception in some states now since Roe got overturned: Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

Nice. :thumbsup:

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58 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Sorry, this is a bit out of date. Abortion is actually banned from the moment of conception in some states now since Roe got overturned: Idaho, South Dakota, Wisconsin, Arizona, Texas, Oklahoma, Missouri, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, Tennessee, Kentucky, and West Virginia.

Yeah this is kinda what I was getting at.

There have been multiple comments in here saying things like “why does it magically become a person at 20 (or whatever #) weeks?” usually followed up with “life begins at conception.”

So, if pro-lifers are being consistent, they should want abortion illegal after fertilization.  And yet only 2 people voted for that in my poll.

 

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11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah this is kinda what I was getting at.

There have been multiple comments in here saying things like “why does it magically become a person at 20 (or whatever #) weeks?” usually followed up with “life begins at conception.”

So, if pro-lifers are being consistent, they should want abortion illegal after fertilization.  And yet only 2 people voted for that in my poll.

 

Who do you want to kill and when? 

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12 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah this is kinda what I was getting at.

There have been multiple comments in here saying things like “why does it magically become a person at 20 (or whatever #) weeks?” usually followed up with “life begins at conception.”

So, if pro-lifers are being consistent, they should want abortion illegal after fertilization.  And yet only 2 people voted for that in my poll.

 

As a pro-abortionist, shouldn't you want abortion legal up until birth?  To be consistent and all.  :dunno: 

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14 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah this is kinda what I was getting at.

There have been multiple comments in here saying things like “why does it magically become a person at 20 (or whatever #) weeks?” usually followed up with “life begins at conception.”

So, if pro-lifers are being consistent, they should want abortion illegal after fertilization.  And yet only 2 people voted for that in my poll.

 

The thing is, most people who are pro-life are somewhere in the middle on the cutoff date. That’s part of the reason the GOP is underperforming right now. High inflation, border issues, Biden’s unpopular, and yet Dems are poised to GROW their majority in the Senate? If the 14 states mentioned above had passed some reasonable legislation instead of 100% bans, it might be a different story. These extreme bans are not popular, as many polls (including yours here) show.

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4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

As a pro-abortionist, shouldn't you want abortion legal up until birth?  To be consistent and all.  :dunno: 

No, I think I’m being consistent by saying it should be allowed as long as the baby can not survive outside of the mother’s body.   Once it is possible to live outside the mother’s body, if they’re planning to have an abortion, they should deliver it.

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6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, I think I’m being consistent by saying it should be allowed as long as the baby can not survive outside of the mother’s body.   Once it is possible to live outside the mother’s body, if they’re planning to have an abortion, they should deliver it.

That's an arbitrary number; there is no go/no-go time that I know of.

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9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

No, I think I’m being consistent by saying it should be allowed as long as the baby can not survive outside of the mother’s body.   Once it is possible to live outside the mother’s body, if they’re planning to have an abortion, they should deliver it.

You are a murderer supporter. Good job peanut. 

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40 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Dems are poised to GROW their majority in the Senate? 

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38 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

That's an arbitrary number; there is no go/no-go time that I know of.

There is a minimum that has actually survived.  21 as far as I know.  As I said earlier though I think it makes sense to move it up as the technology improves (and I’m probably OK setting the legal limit at 20 weeks which is technically less than any baby has survived).

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Nebraska law is abortions up to 20 weeks.  Although the state University Medical Center has never allowed abortions.  I guess that's what Planned Parenthood is for although it should be named Abortion Clinic or more accurately Unborn Human Kill Factory.

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