remote controller 133 Posted May 18, 2022 When the Falcons drafted Ridder did the release Rosen? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,105 Posted May 18, 2022 I don't think they had too. I don't think he was on their roster. If I recall, he was only signed through the end of last year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 133 Posted May 18, 2022 Falcons' current QB situation has NFL world concerned (thecomeback.com) This is from March 21st. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,105 Posted May 19, 2022 19 hours ago, remote controller said: Falcons' current QB situation has NFL world concerned (thecomeback.com) This is from March 21st. According to Spotrac.com, he's a restricted free agent. He currently has no active contract with anyone. Technically, I guess Yates is wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 133 Posted May 19, 2022 He has to be the biggest flop in QB draft history, or on the list of the top 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 19, 2022 R Leaf, I think the Colts almost picked him over some guy named P Manning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AxeElf 787 Posted May 19, 2022 JaMarcus Russell is widely considered to be the biggest QB bust of all time, but Ryan Leaf would get honorable mention. Rosen is up there, but he was only the 10th overall pick, not a 1 or 2 like Russell and Leaf. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 977 Posted May 20, 2022 Let's list the biggest QB busts. So many I can't think of them all on my own. Some have already been mentioned. Trevor Lawrence Justin Fields Dwayne Haskins Josh Rosen Paxton Lynch Blake Bortles Johnny Manziel EJ Manuel Christian Ponder Jimmy Clausen JaMarcus Russell Matt Leinart Joey Harrington David Carr Giovanni Carmazzi Akili Smith Ryan Leaf Cade McNown Heath Shuler Rick Mirer David Klingler Browning Nagle Todd Marinovich Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 399 Posted May 20, 2022 9 hours ago, Gepetto said: Let's list the biggest QB busts. So many I can't think of them all on my own. Some have already been mentioned. Trevor Lawrence Justin Fields Dwayne Haskins Josh Rosen Paxton Lynch Blake Bortles Johnny Manziel EJ Manuel Christian Ponder Jimmy Clausen JaMarcus Russell Matt Leinart Joey Harrington David Carr Giovanni Carmazzi Akili Smith Ryan Leaf Cade McNown Heath Shuler Rick Mirer David Klingler Browning Nagle Todd Marinovich I wouldn't put Trevor Lawrence or Justing Fields on the list just yet... Don't forget Andre Ware, Blaine Gabbert, Vince Young Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 20, 2022 Nice list of qbs that have been a bust, but one has missed the point of the question, which is the biggest bust. R Leaf is the winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,105 Posted May 20, 2022 16 hours ago, Gepetto said: Let's list the biggest QB busts. So many I can't think of them all on my own. Some have already been mentioned. Trevor Lawrence Justin Fields Dwayne Haskins Josh Rosen Paxton Lynch Blake Bortles Johnny Manziel EJ Manuel Christian Ponder Jimmy Clausen JaMarcus Russell Matt Leinart Joey Harrington David Carr Giovanni Carmazzi Akili Smith Ryan Leaf Cade McNown Heath Shuler Rick Mirer David Klingler Browning Nagle Todd Marinovich I wouldn't consider 2nd round & later QB's, such as Nagle or Carmazzi as busts. 7 hours ago, polecatt said: Don't forget Andre Ware, Blaine Gabbert, Vince Young There's plenty of others too like Josh Freeman, RG3, Todd Blackledge, Dave Brown, Winston, Mariota, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 How many teams did Rosen say made a big mistake by not drafting him? Like 10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 23, 2022 On 5/20/2022 at 5:23 PM, TBayXXXVII said: I wouldn't consider 2nd round & later QB's, such as Nagle or Carmazzi as busts. There's plenty of others too like Josh Freeman, RG3, Todd Blackledge, Dave Brown, Winston, Mariota, etc. Yeah, it's really silly to consider all those guys to be busts. Including Winston and Mariota. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 587 Posted May 24, 2022 22 hours ago, Utilit99 said: Yeah, it's really silly to consider all those guys to be busts. Including Winston and Mariota. well, they are definitely busts for the team that drafted them as they are no longer an asset within the organization. though busts in the sense of what they did in their career relative to where they were drafted? that remains to be seen. Winston and Mariota still have a chance to turn it around. Winston might. hes shown some flashes in his 5000 yard season. Mariota not so much. I actually thought he'd be a career backup from here on out but he got himself a starting gig for this year, so he may yet salvage his career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
remote controller 133 Posted May 24, 2022 On 5/20/2022 at 11:22 AM, weepaws said: Nice list of qbs that have been a bust, but one has missed the point of the question, which is the biggest bust. R Leaf is the winner. A guy who played in 25 games and started 21 does not even come close to comparing with Rosen. Leaf was a bust but Rosen never even got to barely find the field. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 24, 2022 Leaf along with Manning were considered the best two players in the 1998 draft, not just qbs , but best two players period. Leaf was being compared equally with the HOF Manning. Leaf did play in 25 games, and he did start 21 games , and in those games he completed 48% of his passes, and tossed 14 tds while tossing 36 ints. R Leaf is easily the biggest Qb bust ever in the nfl. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 24, 2022 2 hours ago, remote controller said: A guy who played in 25 games and started 21 does not even come close to comparing with Rosen. Leaf was a bust but Rosen never even got to barely find the field. I’m glad that you found some way to actually contribute to the conversation. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted May 25, 2022 9 hours ago, weepaws said: Leaf along with Manning were considered the best two players in the 1998 draft, not just qbs , but best two players period. Leaf was being compared equally with the HOF Manning. Leaf did play in 25 games, and he did start 21 games , and in those games he completed 48% of his passes, and tossed 14 tds while tossing 36 ints. R Leaf is easily the biggest Qb bust ever in the nfl. He was the biggest idiot for sure but as far as QB busts, he is simply in a bust category. for QBs. No differentiating between the group. Heath Schuler? Mike Phipps? Jamarcus Russell? David Klingler? Akili Smith? Rick Mirer? The great Art Schlichter? I'm not saying Ryan Leaf wasn't a huge bust, just that he simply drops into the same category as all these other guys. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 587 Posted May 25, 2022 On 5/19/2022 at 12:07 PM, AxeElf said: Rosen is up there, but he was only the 10th overall pick, not a 1 or 2 like Russell and Leaf. this I agree with. when teams package multiple firsts to move up 7 or 8 spots to take a QB in the top 3 picks I have to think its a bigger bust when someone goes #1 or #2 overall compared to #10. as for arguing over who is the biggest bust.... who cares, they are all crappy players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, Ray_T said: this I agree with. when teams package multiple firsts to move up 7 or 8 spots to take a QB in the top 3 picks I have to think its a bigger bust when someone goes #1 or #2 overall compared to #10. as for arguing over who is the biggest bust.... who cares, they are all crappy players. Makes for good conversation in May. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 25, 2022 5 hours ago, Utilit99 said: He was the biggest idiot for sure but as far as QB busts, he is simply in a bust category. for QBs. No differentiating between the group. Heath Schuler? Mike Phipps? Jamarcus Russell? David Klingler? Akili Smith? Rick Mirer? The great Art Schlichter? I'm not saying Ryan Leaf wasn't a huge bust, just that he simply drops into the same category as all these other guys. That’s just boring, stop gaslighting, and pick one. Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 977 Posted May 30, 2022 It's Jamarcus Russell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 30, 2022 On 5/24/2022 at 3:51 PM, weepaws said: Leaf along with Manning were considered the best two players in the 1998 draft, not just qbs , but best two players period. Leaf was being compared equally with the HOF Manning. Leaf did play in 25 games, and he did start 21 games , and in those games he completed 48% of his passes, and tossed 14 tds while tossing 36 ints. R Leaf is easily the biggest Qb bust ever in the nfl. Russel played in 31 games and started in 25 games, in those games he completed 52% of his passes, and tossed 18tds while tossing 23 ints. R Leaf is still the winner. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 977 Posted May 30, 2022 Russell was taken #1 overall. Close enough to Leaf's stats and #1 draft pick vs #2 for Leaf, make Jamarcus the biggest draft bust. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,451 Posted May 30, 2022 Leaf stats are considerably worst. Leaf was being compared to a Qb you might have heard of in the 1998 draft, P Manning. Russell had a passer rating of 62, Leaf passer rating was 50. Their stats aren’t even comparable. Leaf is the biggest bust. Thanks for your contribution to this tread, now you have learn something. Welcome. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 3, 2022 On 5/19/2022 at 12:31 PM, remote controller said: He has to be the biggest flop in QB draft history, or on the list of the top 3. I wonder if all the teams he said would regret not taking him are regretting not taking him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
