GobbleDog 816 Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think she needs to stay there for a few years at least. I would like to see how her perspective on the USA changes after that. Really? "America sucks because they didn't get me released fast enough. Racist jerks. Black Lives Matter! De-fund the police!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted November 9, 2022 2 hours ago, IGotWorms said: To me she was dumb and semi-traitorous to be going over there to play in a Russian league as Putin was invading our ally. I don’t give a damn about the hash, but that was stupid, and I don’t feel particularly sorry for her suffering some consequences. That said, obviously it’s gone way past what she should’ve expected. I do hope we can get her out of there soon, but seems like a pretty tall order with the situation in Ukraine. Rimshot!!! (or maybe rimjob? ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 5,564 Posted November 9, 2022 I bet she would be a great cell mate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 'Tator Salad' White 82 Posted November 10, 2022 2022’s fock around and find out champion 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted November 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, Ron 'Tator Salad' White said: 2022’s fock around and find out champion Oooh. This could be the new Darwin Award. I like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,264 Posted November 18, 2022 Looks like she might come back in a prisoner swap for the arms dealer. https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-hopeful-us-prisoner-swap-including-arms-dealer-bout-2022-11-18/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 2,515 Posted November 18, 2022 17 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said: Looks like she might come back in a prisoner swap for the arms dealer. https://www.reuters.com/world/russia-hopeful-us-prisoner-swap-including-arms-dealer-bout-2022-11-18/ We're really getting the short end of the stick on that. Can we just give Viktor back and they can keep Grinder? She hates America anyways - now she gets her wish to experience what life is like outside that oppressive USA. And calling her a "basketball star" is simply absurd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted November 18, 2022 61 yr old white male teacher from PA is also doing 9yrs.....not a peep.. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtae.com/amp/article/marc-fogel-teacher-butler-county-russia-prison/40749058 Untill I hear an outcry for this guy...fock the Grinder!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 3,067 Posted November 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: 61 yr old white male teacher from PA is also doing 9yrs.....not a peep.. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtae.com/amp/article/marc-fogel-teacher-butler-county-russia-prison/40749058 Untill I hear an outcry for this guy...fock the Grinder!! #sayhisname Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,033 Posted November 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, DonS said: #sayhisname Robert Paulsen 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted November 18, 2022 42 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said: 61 yr old white male teacher from PA is also doing 9yrs.....not a peep.. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtae.com/amp/article/marc-fogel-teacher-butler-county-russia-prison/40749058 Untill I hear an outcry for this guy...fock the Grinder!! #metoo (greatest saying the left ever came up with ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,455 Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Cloaca du jour said: 61 yr old white male teacher from PA is also doing 9yrs.....not a peep.. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtae.com/amp/article/marc-fogel-teacher-butler-county-russia-prison/40749058 Untill I hear an outcry for this guy...fock the Grinder!! His the wrong color and gender....no one will care about him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,220 Posted November 18, 2022 #IstandwithMarc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 558 Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said: 61 yr old white male teacher from PA is also doing 9yrs.....not a peep.. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wtae.com/amp/article/marc-fogel-teacher-butler-county-russia-prison/40749058 Untill I hear an outcry for this guy...fock the Grinder!! Video said he's doing 14 years. Ridiculous. One nation absolutely draconian in sentencing, ours far too lenient. Mohamed Hussein Abdi (Minneapolis) In May of 2020, during BLM rioting, Abdi entered Gordon Parks High School, poured a clear liquid from a white container onto the floor & a trash can in the cafeteria. He then ignited a fire in the trash can using a liquid-soaked garment, & ran from the building as flames & black smoke erupted. He also burned the school flag & threw rocks through glass windows & at law-enforcement. He attended Gordon Parks high school. He was found guilty. Federal guidelines for a crime like this, range from 37 to 46 months (Prison) He was sentenced to probation. Here's a picture of the worthless pos import in action that day. https://www.imagebam.com/view/MEGWKBG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 1,170 Posted December 8, 2022 And the world becomes an incrementally more dangerous place. Or maybe not. Maybe he is now an irrelevancy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruzer 1,992 Posted December 8, 2022 Disgusting, this makes me sick. Her ass better stand tall and at attention when our anthem is played now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted December 8, 2022 So dangerous arms dealer for a womens basketball player. Marine stays in gulag. Sounds about right in 2022. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted December 8, 2022 Man, Russia played the US like a fiddle on this one. Great way to incentive more bullsh!t arrests in Russia. We didn't even get the Whelan in the deal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,179 Posted December 8, 2022 Does this put an end to da blacks always crying woe is me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 2,710 Posted December 8, 2022 Disgusting, every aspect. Feel exactly the way Cruzer does. The world is immediately a more dangerous place because of this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron 'Tator Salad' White 82 Posted December 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Cruzer said: Disgusting, this makes me sick. Her ass better stand tall and at attention when our anthem is played now. Lol probably more vocal then ever and yes disgusting Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdGang 312 Posted December 8, 2022 Only a Lib would release a terrorist to save one of their own from the penalty they deserved. Weak Libs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
iam90sbaby 2,125 Posted December 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, BirdGang said: Only a Lib would release a terrorist to save one of their own from the penalty they deserved. Weak Libs. For a crime that's illegal here too, lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted December 8, 2022 It is the year is 2025. Russia: hey lets grab up this goofy youtube content creator, I bet the US will give us back a killer or 2 for him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted December 8, 2022 A trade this bad would be denied in most fantasy leagues 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted December 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said: Man, Russia played the US like a fiddle on this one. Great way to incentive more bullsh!t arrests in Russia. We didn't even get the Whelan in the deal. They're still trying to get Whelan released. Whelan's brother even said it was good that Biden made the deal for Griner. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: They're still trying to get Whelan released. Whelan's brother even said it was good that Biden made the deal for Griner. Griners sentence was overboard, sure. Whelan is a Marine falsely charged with “spying” by Russia. My issue isn’t in the dealing per se, it’s wondering how the hell Brittany skipped line all the way to the top? I think we all know the answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted December 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: They're still trying to get Whelan released. Whelan's brother even said it was good that Biden made the deal for Griner. So if Whelan is more valuable to Russia. And we gave up a dangerous terrorist for her. What do we have to give up for Whelan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted December 8, 2022 Anything on Marc Fogel? The guy with medical cannabis? 61...bad health?? Anything? Jesus I hate this country some times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 4,033 Posted December 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Brad GLuckman said: Man, Russia played the US like a fiddle on this one. Great way to incentive more bullsh!t arrests in Russia. We didn't even get the Whelan in the deal. I'm glad Griner is on her way home, but I'm really disappointed that Whelan wasn't included in the deal. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted December 8, 2022 Background: Mr. Fogel is a Butler County, Pennsylvania native and taught history courses at schools attended by children of U.S. diplomats in Columbia, Venezuela, Oman, Malaysia, and Russia. In August 2021, he was detained at the Sheremetyevo Airport with a small amount of medical marijuana prescribed for his chronic back pain. In June 2022, he was sentenced to fourteen years of hard labor in a Russia prison, a sentence usually reserved for large-scale drug smugglers. Under federal law, Mr. Fogel meets at least six of the eleven established criteria to be designated as “wrongfully detained” by the State Department. At the beginning of August, Rep. Reschenthaler led a letter to Secretary Antony Blinken urging the State Department to immediately designate Mr. Fogel as “wrongfully detained” and ensure he is included in any negotiations to bring Americans imprisoned in Russia home. Earlier this week, Rep. Reschenthaler led another bipartisan, bicameral letter demanding the Biden Administration follow the Levinson Act criteria and prioritize Mr. Fogel’s release Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 2,064 Posted December 8, 2022 Background: Mr. Fogel is a Butler County, Pennsylvania native and taught history courses at schools attended by children of U.S. diplomats in Columbia, Venezuela, Oman, Malaysia, and Russia. In August 2021, he was detained at the Sheremetyevo Airport with a small amount of medical marijuana prescribed for his chronic back pain. In June 2022, he was sentenced to fourteen years of hard labor in a Russia prison, a sentence usually reserved for large-scale drug smugglers. Under federal law, Mr. Fogel meets at least six of the eleven established criteria to be designated as “wrongfully detained” by the State Department. At the beginning of August, Rep. Reschenthaler led a letter to Secretary Antony Blinken urging the State Department to immediately designate Mr. Fogel as “wrongfully detained” and ensure he is included in any negotiations to bring Americans imprisoned in Russia home. Earlier this week, Rep. Reschenthaler led another bipartisan, bicameral letter demanding the Biden Administration follow the Levinson Act criteria and prioritize Mr. Fogel’s release Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted December 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: So if Whelan is more valuable to Russia. And we gave up a dangerous terrorist for her. What do we have to give up for Whelan? No idea. Must be some ridiculous. There's a reason they haven't been able to make a deal yet. Does anyone actually expect Russia to be reasonable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,083 Posted December 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said: I'm glad Griner is on her way home, but I'm really disappointed that Whelan wasn't included in the deal. Mostly how I feel. I’m all about bringing Americans home. Even the ones who kneel to it. It’s just so disappointing that other Americans are left because it doesn’t score the same political points. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,542 Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: No idea. Must be some ridiculous. There's a reason they haven't been able to make a deal yet. Does anyone actually expect Russia to be reasonable? No. So we will give in. It is how we operate here. Putin strong arms us and we just say "ok mr putin". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted December 8, 2022 Just now, listen2me 23 said: No. So we will give in. It is how we operate here. Putin strong arms us and we just say "ok mr putin". What should we do? How long do you want Americans held? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,853 Posted December 8, 2022 5 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Mostly how I feel. I’m all about bringing Americans home. Even the ones who kneel to it. It’s just so disappointing that other Americans are left because it doesn’t score the same political points. From what I've been reading, Biden is working on getting Whelan back. Russia must be unwilling to work out a deal on him yet. NEW from the Whelan family: "There is no greater success than for a wrongful detainee to be freed & for them to go home. The Biden Admin made the right decision to bring Ms. Griner home, & to make the deal that was possible, rather than waiting for one that wasn't going to..” 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites