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Does a kiddie pool count OP? 

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2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

It's concrete/shotcrete with a pebble finish.

Concrete good, pebble bad for this repair.  Would you want the pebbles to go back on the floor in the area it is raised?

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Just dump a bunch of clean smooth river stones in the deep part.  Easy peasy!

(I stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night so you can trust me) 

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7 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Let me help you out with the structural engineering - no rebar needed, you are just raising the deepest level of the floor, it's entirely in compression which is what the grout is designed for.  And you can finish the self leveling grout to match whatever whatever finish you have.  Like I already said, the biggest cost is in the labor for surface prep (that means removal of the existing finish plaster/tile/stone for people without a clue).  It would cost several thousand unless you did it yourself which would be super easy to do.  Probably impossible for you, but for someone with knowledge on how to use the materials, easy peasy.

@jerryskids Send me the dimensions of the pool, including the limits that you want to made shallower and I will work you up an estimate.  I'll show you how much it would cost for a contractor to do it and how much you can save by doing it yourself.  Include how it's lined (fiberglass, concrete, poly-composite) and how it's finished (plaster, tile, stone, other) and I will work up an estimate for you, for free.

Whatever you do don't just fill it with dirt because that would be dumb and would clog up your filter and ruin your pump! 

Thanks, that is very kind of you!  I'll probably pursue this in the fall; it's hot AF and you aren't supposed to expose your pool without water, not to mention it's not a great time for manual labor.  :cheers: 

4 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Concrete good, pebble bad for this repair.  Would you want the pebbles to go back on the floor in the area it is raised?

I may have misspoke; I went and looked and my (non) expert opinion is it's maybe more of a bumpy/infused plaster than a pure pebble.  I'd figure it out exactly before I started of course.

2 minutes ago, DonS said:

Just dump a bunch of clean smooth river stones in the deep part.  Easy peasy!

(I stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night so you can trust me) 

This is an interesting idea.  :thumbsup: 

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Thanks, that is very kind of you!  I'll probably pursue this in the fall; it's hot AF and you aren't supposed to expose your pool without water, not to mention it's not a great time for manual labor.  :cheers: 

I may have misspoke; I went and looked and my (non) expert opinion is it's maybe more of a bumpy/infused plaster than a pure pebble.  I'd figure it out exactly before I started of course.

This is an interesting idea.  :thumbsup: 

It's probably plaster then, which is good.  Trying to match pebbles would be a PIA, depending on the age you might never get it just right.  A pic would help.

I thought about the clean rock idea too.  You wouldn't want to damage your existing finish and cleaning might become a problem.

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skids, you said you had pebbletech, you can't do that yourself, you need to be authorized to get the product, and it's not a job you want to do yourself anyway.  This whole thing I would advise against doing yourself.  If there is anything worse than having a pool, it's having a sh!tty looking pool or damaged pool.

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plaster is not bumpy, it's smooth, unless it's degraded then it's like sandpaper.  You might have pebblesheen, which is like pebbletech, just less bumpy, feels like an orange peel.

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48 minutes ago, jerryskids said:
55 minutes ago, DonS said:

Just dump a bunch of clean smooth river stones in the deep part.  Easy peasy!

(I stayed at Holiday Inn Express last night so you can trust me) 

This is an interesting idea.  :thumbsup: 

The stones or staying at a Holiday Inn Express?

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38 minutes ago, posty said:

The stones or staying at a Holiday Inn Express?

Yes.  :thumbsup: 

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About 5 years ago we looked at getting one.    A basic pool was over 50K.  I was able to buy a condo at the marina I keep my boat at for just under 100K.   It is a vacation area for the boat owners that is 1/2 full on the weekends in the summer with no rentals allowed so it is quiet.  I use the condo every day after diving to rest and have lunch.  I stay there 2 nights a week usually. Usually just about 5 people at the condos on the weekdays.  No pool  maintenance and only about 15 minutes from the house.  Prices on the condos have gone up since then and are in the 120's so you could not do that now but I am guessing the $50k pool is more as well. 

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We had our pool built in 2001.  It cost $40k for the pool, and then another $20k for the landscaping/fence/patio.  Over the years I've had it resurfaced 3 times at about $10k each, went through 2 heaters, a pump, a cleaning robot, chemicals, etc.

And I doubt it's added any value to the house.

So for a cost perspective, it's not there.  You gotta really love a pool to justify getting one.  It was great when the kids were young and we did get tons of use out of it entertaining, but now, I'd be good filling it with dirt.  Actually take that back, the dog loves it, he goes swimming every day, and he's the best, so I'll keep it for him.

I'd rather go swimming in the ocean, or the quarry or lake.  If it's too hot outside, I go inside, or spray myself with the hose.

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My apartment complex has a pool that is broken that they never fix and yet they use old images of the pool when it was working as bait advertising as why you should move in.

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6 hours ago, vomit said:

We had our pool built in 2001.  It cost $40k for the pool, and then another $20k for the landscaping/fence/patio.  Over the years I've had it resurfaced 3 times at about $10k each, went through 2 heaters, a pump, a cleaning robot, chemicals, etc.

And I doubt it's added any value to the house.

So for a cost perspective, it's not there.  You gotta really love a pool to justify getting one.  It was great when the kids were young and we did get tons of use out of it entertaining, but now, I'd be good filling it with dirt.  Actually take that back, the dog loves it, he goes swimming every day, and he's the best, so I'll keep it for him.

I'd rather go swimming in the ocean, or the quarry or lake.  If it's too hot outside, I go inside, or spray myself with the hose.

My wife's uncle got really tired of having a pool and since his kids were all grown and out the door, he filled it in...

They cleaned out their house with things that they no longer needed/wanted and threw it into the empty pool...   Then when it was filled, they poured concrete into the pool...  Once settled and cured, they paved over it nicely and created a basketball court...

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It's focking hot as Satan out here today.  Good thing I got this pool.

Hazy ipas, pool, brisket, ribs, chicken on the smoker.  Mock drafting.  I know what's up.

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Just left my sisters pool. We are moving next year to Greenville and plan on either buying a house with one or just putting one in ourselves. But I grew up with a pool and want one in our next house 

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14x30 inground, peanut-shaped, fiberglass pool. Just got done floating around on a pool noodle drinking beers all day. Highly recommended. It's like being on vacation in your own back yard.

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2 hours ago, vomit said:

It's focking hot as Satan out here today.  Good thing I got this pool.

Hazy ipas, pool, brisket, ribs, chicken on the smoker.  Mock drafting.  I know what's up.

Was in the 90s here today.  About 4 hours in the pool and now it’s time for filet and botanical refreshers.

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Meh.  Had one when I lived in Plano, TX.  I liked it, but I spent as much time maintaining is as I did enjoying it.  

Now living in MI, so the season would be much shorter.  

Plus, we can walk to the beach and swim in Lake Michigan for free.  Aside from that, there's a casino/hotel and a golf resort nearby. Both have really nice pools and hot tubs. We can go anytime and spend a fraction of the $ and none of the effort. 

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5 hours ago, vuduchile said:

Meh.  Had one when I lived in Plano, TX.  I liked it, but I spent as much time maintaining is as I did enjoying it. 

People warned me about that before we bought this house, but it hasn’t been true.  Maintenance is about 30 minutes per week.

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On 6/29/2022 at 1:50 PM, jerryskids said:

Thanks, that is very kind of you!  I'll probably pursue this in the fall; it's hot AF and you aren't supposed to expose your pool without water, not to mention it's not a great time for manual labor.  :cheers: 

I may have misspoke; I went and looked and my (non) expert opinion is it's maybe more of a bumpy/infused plaster than a pure pebble.  I'd figure it out exactly before I started of course.

This is an interesting idea.  :thumbsup: 

Couldn’t you just not fill up the water as high?

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1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Couldn’t you just not fill up the water as high?

No, there is a top skimmer and an auto water leveler. Also there is tile at the water level; just below it is the plaster which needs to be in water or it will crack.

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18 hours ago, MLCKAA said:

People warned me about that before we bought this house, but it hasn’t been true.  Maintenance is about 30 minutes per week.

You must not have many trees and such around that can dirty it up. 
 

Ours was a daily battle with that stuff.  

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19 hours ago, MLCKAA said:

People warned me about that before we bought this house, but it hasn’t been true.  Maintenance is about 30 minutes per week.

We have an automatic cover.  My weekly maintenance takes about 10 minutes.

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My pool timer broke.  Another $300.  Fock this pool.  I'm filling it with dirt.

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1 hour ago, Gladiators said:

We have an automatic cover.  My weekly maintenance takes about 10 minutes.

Same here.  By the time I drop some tabs in the chlorinator, vacuum and backwash it takes about half an hour.  I could do less, but I don’t trust the boy to make it perfect like I can myself.

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