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54 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It's just idiotic and wrong to try to put Nazis and fascists on the left. 

Not really, if you view the political spectrum as more of a circle than a line.  For instance, classical liberals aren't too far from libertarians on many things (individual freedoms and all).  

Similarly, the far Left that we see today has many qualities that are ascribed to Naziism and Fascism -- the belief in an orthodoxy and the suppression of any opposition, control of language and media, consolidation of power within the executive state.

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4 minutes ago, craftsman said:

Riots of 2020. Not politically motivated or supported by liberals. Liberals are the largest hate group in this country. Possibly the world. 

All the most violent crime comes from liberal run cities. You are such an idiot. 

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

I understand that but in practice they aligned more with far right extremism.  Whereas leftists, notably the majority of Democrats today, are Stalinist.  Both are bad of course, both have jus terrible ideologies and cause death. The main difference today is the inclination of the Democrats to actually embrace it without restraint, and as a result even normal people are vile and evil to them now.

I dont see how you can relate it to far right extremism

Nazis banned guns

Nazis banned speech

Nazis vilified an entire group to push their extremes

I dont see the far right doing any of those things

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12 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Not really, if you view the political spectrum as more of a circle than a line.  For instance, classical liberals aren't too far from libertarians on many things (individual freedoms and all).  

Similarly, the far Left that we see today has many qualities that are ascribed to Naziism and Fascism -- the belief in an orthodoxy and the suppression of any opposition, control of language and media, consolidation of power within the executive state.

I don't buy this regarding the media. Posters here will dismiss and/or downplay even the most unbiased, fact-based news sources just because they don't tell them what they want to hear.

Clownzo angrily lashes out at entities when he gets butt hurt, and his loyalists go right along with him. Look at how Fox viewers jumped ship when the Arizona vote was correctly called for Biden. 

You don't see Biden getting all defensive and labeling media entities as fake news. He's got better things to do than play the victim and go on a vindictive rampage over news outlets and critics. 

Clownzo's behavior reeks of media control. Certain news entities wouldn't date cross him because his brainwashed loyalists would take their viewing elsewhere if they did, which means a loss of advertising revenues.

 

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1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I don't buy this regarding the media. Posters here will dismiss and/or downplay even the most unbiased, fact-based news sources just because they don't tell them what they want to hear. Clownzo's angrily lashes out entities when he gets butt hurt, and his loyalists go right along with him. Look at how Fox viewers jumped ship when the Arizona vote was correctly called for Biden. 

You don't see Biden getting all defensive and labeling media entities as fake news. He's got better things to do than play the victim and go on a vindictive rampage over news outlets and critics. 

Clownzo's behavior reeks of media control. Certain news entities wouldn't date cross him because his brainwashed loyalists would take their viewing elsewhere if they did, which means a loss of advertising revenues.

 

Biden doesn't need to get defensive, every mainstream outlet defends him already

 

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5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Biden doesn't need to get defensive, every mainstream outlet defends him already

 

Does Fox defend? It doesn't get any more mainstream than Fox. 

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Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Does Fox defend? It doesn't get any more mainstream than Fox. 

I am sure they do, I dont watch Fox though, so I couldn't tell you

also Fox has always been listed as entertainment

 

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6 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

I don't buy this regarding the media. Posters here will dismiss and/or downplay even the most unbiased, fact-based news sources just because they don't tell them what they want to hear. Clownzo's angrily lashes out entities when he gets butt hurt, and his loyalists go right along with him. Look at how Fox viewers jumped ship when the Arizona vote was correctly called for Biden. 

You don't see Biden getting all defensive and labeling media entities as fake news. He's got better things to do than play the victim and go on a vindictive rampage over news outlets and critics. 

Clownzo's behavior reeks of media control. Certain news entities wouldn't date cross him because his brainwashed loyalists would take their viewing elsewhere if they did, which means a loss of advertising revenues.

 

This is a joke, right?  Biden doesn't have to "get defensive" because all the media does is report what ice cream he orders.

And the Left-wing media has been my soapbox here for long before Biden.  I called CNN out here over a decade ago for being leftist, and people were all "no, no, they are the center!"  It's hard being so correct sometimes.

Also not that you care, but every time I see you use "Clownzo," I envision a few more brain cells leaving your head.  You might want to be careful, you could be running low.  Regardless, it really does make you look immature and foolish.

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I am sure they do, I dont watch Fox though, so I couldn't tell you

also Fox has always been listed as entertainment

 

They don't. Fox is a news outlet and is about as mainstream as it gets, but it is decisively right. Reuters and the Associated Press are the most unbiased, fact-based entities in the land. The everyday reporting of Fox and CNN is more balanced. 

I read and watch as much as I can on both sides of the spectrum, even OAN and Newsmax, neither of which I can stand due to the way they spin things and passionately spew misinformation vitriole that their viewers lap up.

 

 

 

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Hitler wasn’t far left. But Stalin and Mao were. And have much larger body counts. 

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6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

This is a joke, right?  Biden doesn't have to "get defensive" because all the media does is report what ice cream he orders.

And the Left-wing media has been my soapbox here for long before Biden.  I called CNN out here over a decade ago for being leftist, and people were all "no, no, they are the center!"  It's hard being so correct sometimes.

Also not that you care, but every time I see you use "Clownzo," I envision a few more brain cells leaving your head.  You might want to be careful, you could be running low.  Regardless, it really does make you look immature and foolish.

Eeyore mode activated!

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17 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

They don't. Fox is a news outlet and is about as mainstream as it gets, but it is decisively right. Reuters and the Associated Press are the most unbiased, fact-based entities in the land. The everyday reporting of Fox and CNN is more balanced. 

I read and watch as much as I can on both sides of the spectrum, even OAN and Newsmax, neither of which I can stand due to the way they spin things and passionately spew misinformation vitriole that their viewers lap up.

 

 

 

but CNN and MSNBC dont passionately spew misinformation vitriole?

 

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16 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

try 'hitler cat pics'  

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9 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

but CNN and MSNBC dont passionately spew misinformation vitriole?

 

Their infotainers do at night. I specifically said everyday reporting. 

But it's nothing like the sh!t show that is OAN. When the New York AG suit was announced, OAN immediately spun it as a focus on how the Clownzo kids reacted.

Their reaction most certainly belongs in the story, but that's not THE story.

The New York Times story did it right. It had the story, quotes from the AG and reactions from various camps. 

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1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I dont see how you can relate it to far right extremism

Nazis banned guns

Nazis banned speech

Nazis vilified an entire group to push their extremes

I dont see the far right doing any of those things

But the leftists in Russia did these as well, when you are extremist you cannot afford to have an educated and armed population if you are to assert authoritarian control. Hitler knew this and Stalin knew this.  Controlling education, the media and arms are integral to authoritarianism, hence the Democrats efforts on all these fronts.

You points are valid, but only in so far as the commonalities with all tyrannical movements.

Hitler pretended to be socialist, but in practice he was a conservative. Moreover, during the night of the thousand knives, when he had Strasser killed, he showed all that he was no socialist lefty. 

It is a fascinating topic to be sure. I have read a number of books on this point.  Our concern should be less about party affiliation and such, and more pointedly on behaviors.....that is the tell. And every position held by liberals today is heavily tilted toward a Stalinist authoritarianism 

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1 hour ago, RLLD said:

But the leftists in Russia did these as well, when you are extremist you cannot afford to have an educated and armed population if you are to assert authoritarian control. Hitler knew this and Stalin knew this.  Controlling education, the media and arms are integral to authoritarianism, hence the Democrats efforts on all these fronts.

You points are valid, but only in so far as the commonalities with all tyrannical movements.

Hitler pretended to be socialist, but in practice he was a conservative. Moreover, during the night of the thousand knives, when he had Strasser killed, he showed all that he was no socialist lefty. 

It is a fascinating topic to be sure. I have read a number of books on this point.  Our concern should be less about party affiliation and such, and more pointedly on behaviors.....that is the tell. And every position held by liberals today is heavily tilted toward a Stalinist authoritarianism 

The extremists on both sides are trying to take away and tilt toward some form of authoritarianism. The sooner we understand that and learn to focking compromise, the better off we'll be. 

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45 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The extremists on both sides are trying to take away and tilt toward some form of authoritarianism. The sooner we understand that and learn to focking compromise, the better off we'll be. 

"Both sides". :lol:

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5 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The extremists on both sides are trying to take away and tilt toward some form of authoritarianism. The sooner we understand that and learn to focking compromise, the better off we'll be. 

Where has both sides done this?

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1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Where has both sides done this?

On the extremes.

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17 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Where has both sides done this?

Where do you stand on the following:

Gun control.

Abortion.

Gay marriage.

The military.

Energy.

Climate control.

Term limits. 

Health care.

Affordable college.

 

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9 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The sooner we understand that and learn to focking compromise, the better off we'll be. 

Well, you better tell your side what that means because they've been quite the authoritarians for about 15+ years or so.

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4 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Where do you stand on the following:

Gun control. (2nd amendment absolutist, background checks ok)

Abortion. (hate it but ok with 1st trimester)

Gay marriage. (100% for it, but against marriage contracts in general)

The military. (support the military men, against the industrial military complex and the BS liberations stuff)

Energy. (Nuclear is the cleanest, safest and infinitely renewable, any discussion about energy without its nothing but political grandstanding)

Climate control. (I like my thermostat set at 72)

Term limits. (everything should have term limits, including SCOTUS)

Health care. (private and public options)

Affordable college. (define affordable, smart people should goto trade schools, not spend 100k on bs degrees in humanities and gender studies)

 

 

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5 minutes ago, wiffleball said:

Here's another beauty. He even took his own son to the riot. And you know, helps beat up a cop so badly he can't serve again. Enjoy your 7 years in prison assoul.

https://news.yahoo.com/capitol-rioter-one-man-wrecking-204806152.html

He can’t serve because he got assaulted? It comes with the territory.  

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