squistion 891 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Yep. That’s the whole point. The racism is institutionalized. Or rather, as something I posted before saying the same thing, it is systemic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, squistion said: How did you come up with based on anything I've said? you said it was an injustice. cops are charged with murder. whats the injustice? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yep. That’s the whole point. The racism is institutionalized. I just can't. 5 black cops kill a black guy and its because of racism. JFC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: And you’re skilled at argument and debate youre moronic logic maybe institutionalized in your brain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,541 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Yep. That’s the whole point. The racism is institutionalized. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 How come everytime police reform is proposed in this country, like the George Floyd Act, Republicans shoot it down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, porkbutt said: youre moronic logic maybe institutionalized in your brain Lol keep throwing out personal insults if you want. Obviously you’re incapable of actual discussion and debate. I gotta tell ya it gets old though. It’s boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Lol keep throwing out personal insults if you want. Obviously you’re incapable of actual discussion and debate. I gotta tell ya it gets old though. It’s boring. a black guy decides to become cop...now he hates black guys and wants to beat them. thats awesome. the whole fraternal order of police are focking jedis. they can turn black guys racist against their own race!!! im sorry you sound like a complete moron. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 891 Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, porkbutt said: you said it was an injustice. cops are charged with murder. whats the injustice? If a cop kills someone without any apparent justification, it is an injustice and they have accordingly been so charged. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, porkbutt said: a black guy decides to become cop...now he hates black guys and wants to beat them. thats awesome. the whole fraternal order of police are focking jedis. they can turn back guys racist against their own race!!! im sorry you sound like a complete moron. Nothing that you wrote here bears any relationship whatsoever to a single post I’ve offered on this subject. But thanks for the effort Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 28, 2023 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Was George Floyd committing a violent crime when he was brutally murdered? Was this guy? He was a known violent criminal who was fighting with the police. He got what he had coming to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted January 28, 2023 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Because there is institutional racism in the police forces of this country that causes this sort of behavior explain this then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 861 Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: If a cop kills someone without any apparent justification, it is an injustice and they have accordingly been so charged. so…like i said..like any murder of an innocent person. can i loot and burn for any murder that occurs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, squistion said: If a cop kills someone without any apparent justification, it is an injustice and they have accordingly been so charged. What's a bigger problem in this country. The few cops who go overboard and get in trouble for it, or the 1000s of murders and violent crimes committed by black people every year in this country that don't get punished? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 891 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, porkbutt said: so…like i said..like any murder of an innocent person. can i loot and burn for any murder that occurs? No one has said or suggested that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, craftsman said: He was a known violent criminal who was fighting with the police. He got what he had coming to him. Thankfully our justice system disagrees with you, which is why Derek Chauvin is in prison and will not be leaving it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, porkbutt said: explain this then Pretty self explanatory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 891 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, craftsman said: What's a bigger problem in this country. The few cops who go overboard and get in trouble for it, or the 1000s of murders and violent crimes committed by black people every year in this country that don't get punished? Oh, yes...all those unpunished crimes committed by black people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted January 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: I just can't. 5 black cops kill a black guy and its because of racism. JFC. To be clear, I am not crying "racism". I would just like to point out that around here in other threads I've seen people talk about how racist black people can be, even towards other black people. It's not NOT racism just because it's black cops and a black victim. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, craftsman said: What's a bigger problem in this country. The few cops who go overboard and get in trouble for it, or the 1000s of murders and violent crimes committed by black people every year in this country that don't get punished? Only a bigot would actually ask such a foolish question. The answer is that ALL violent crime should be prosecuted and punished. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Thankfully our justice system disagrees with you, which is why Derek Chauvin is in prison and will not be leaving it. Well, they weren't able to bring the violent criminal back to life so that's a good thing for everyone. No more guns being pointed at pregnant women's bellies by him anymore. The cop is a martyr. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, squistion said: Oh, yes...all those unpunished crimes committed by black people. You deny it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Only a bigot would actually ask such a foolish question. The answer is that ALL violent crime should be prosecuted and punished. And it's not. The cops are always prosecuted, but not nearly even all the liberal inner city violent crimes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, craftsman said: The cops are always prosecuted, Do you have the slightest clue how idiotic you sound for making this statement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Do you have the slightest clue how idiotic you sound for making this statement? Coming from you that means nothing to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 891 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, craftsman said: You deny it? Link to "1000s of murders and violent crimes committed by black people every year in this country that don't get punished" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted January 28, 2023 12 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: To be clear, I am not crying "racism". I would just like to point out that around here in other threads I've seen people talk about how racist black people can be, even towards other black people. It's not NOT racism just because it's black cops and a black victim. Two things. 1. Just because one dude "around here" says something on the internet doesn't mean you generalize the world based on that. 2. What you just typed is GD retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 891 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Do you have the slightest clue how idiotic you sound for making this statement? I think he does, unless this is trolling. I doubt anyone would really believe that the cops are always prosecuted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, craftsman said: Coming from you that means nothing to me. Oh don’t take my word for it. Police officers are prosecuted less than 2% of the time that they commit crimes against the public: https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter What a truly stupid remark you made. “Always prosecuted”. Care to retract it? Or are you proud of your imbecility? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 891 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Oh don’t take my word for it. Police officers are prosecuted less than 2% of the time that they commit crimes against the public: https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter What a truly stupid remark you made. “Always prosecuted”. Care to retract it? Or are you proud of your imbecility? Somehow I doubt that he has ever retracked anything he has said in this forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted January 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Yep. That’s the whole point. The racism is institutionalized. I wonder how someone gets to this point. Man this is just wild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brad GLuckman said: I wonder how someone gets to this point. Man this is just wild. The wild part is that so many refuse to accept it. I mean how many examples do you need? Open your fukking eyes! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,082 Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: The wild part is that so many refuse to accept it. Tim, we accept that you are retarded, we are just trying to help you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
craftsman 1,045 Posted January 28, 2023 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Oh don’t take my word for it. Police officers are prosecuted less than 2% of the time that they commit crimes against the public: https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/21497089/derek-chauvin-george-floyd-trial-police-prosecutions-black-lives-matter What a truly stupid remark you made. “Always prosecuted”. Care to retract it? Or are you proud of your imbecility? Sure. Vox away with you and your systemic racism. You already lost. Stop digging your hole deeper. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Two things. 1. Just because one dude "around here" says something on the internet doesn't mean you generalize the world based on that. 2. What you just typed is GD retarded. Nah. People like you post like you are 100% convinced nothing has to do with race and are tired of hearing about it. People like tim drum the race drum on these examples. IMO the truth is somewhere in between. Of course a black cop can be racist toward black people, your tone in your post made it seem you thought tim's point was ridiculous because it was black cops and a black victim. It wasn't just one random poster around here, and it's true blacks can be racist toward blacks. Regardless, IMO FAR more likely is just a bubbling over of tensions between "those" type of people - criminals, especially ones likely armed, especially ones who resist arrest and take off. Far more likely is undertrained cops that shouldn't be doing so many traffic stops and ramping up the odds of these interactions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pimpadeaux 2,260 Posted January 28, 2023 Wow, crapsman is getting a serious beatdown in this thread. Love it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 2,925 Posted January 28, 2023 1 minute ago, BuckSwope said: Nah. People like you post like you are 100% convinced nothing has to do with race and are tired of hearing about it. People like tim drum the race drum on these examples. IMO the truth is somewhere in between. Of course a black cop can be racist toward black people, your tone in your post made it seem you thought tim's point was ridiculous because it was black cops and a black victim. It wasn't just one random poster around here, and it's true blacks can be racist toward blacks. Regardless, IMO FAR more likely is just a bubbling over of tensions between "those" type of people - criminals, especially ones likely armed, especially ones who resist arrest and take off. Far more likely is undertrained cops that shouldn't be doing so many traffic stops and ramping up the odds of these interactions. I’m willing to accept the truth is in between in many cases. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted January 28, 2023 Just now, The Real timschochet said: I’m willing to accept the truth is in between in many cases. The bottom line is there is a MASSIVE mistrust in the relationship with cops many citizens and a ton of factors contributed to how we got here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brad GLuckman 518 Posted January 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The wild part is that so many refuse to accept it. I mean how many examples do you need? Open your fukking eyes! Examples where the cops that killed the guy aren't black would be a good start. This is trolling. No way you actually believe this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 12,625 Posted January 28, 2023 When the cops tell you to do something do it. Your chances of getting hurt or killed plummet if you do. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
