Dizkneelande 298 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Go through this thread and read the really ugly posts here that are anti-trans and anti-gay bigotry. That’s why they do it. Because we need to make certain attitudes unacceptable. That’s what woke is about. Nobody is anti gay you flaming teller of lies. We all know gobblers. We just don’t want your freak kink mentally unstable godless psychological tyranny foisted upon our children. Loser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 435 Posted February 6 I blame Bowie for all of this. Its a joke people, remember when folks could not take everything like a life or death matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 1,585 Posted February 6 39 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: “Our side” didn’t decide it; doctors and mental health experts decided it, most of them a long time ago. As a society we’re just starting to accept the truth about it, very reluctantly. Look how long it took us to accept homosexuality. Look at the fight conservatives put up over that. They lost that fight; most conservatives are now accepting of gay people. It took a long time but it happened. Someday they will accept transgenders as well. No, not a long time ago. Only up until a few years ago when they decided to get all virtuous instead of being, y'know, scientific. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 298 Posted February 6 48 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Typical lefty. Your side is the one shoving this down's people's throat and when they say something you suddenly get all incredulous and say, "Oh my god, i can't believe you're so focused on this!". GTFO with that disingenuous b*******. No one is persecuting them. In fact they are being overrepresented. I understand that you always have to say they're being persecuted because that's how you get more virtues, but that's not the reality. All they have to do is leave our kids out of it but they can’t because they are authoritarian. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 1,758 Posted February 6 8 minutes ago, DonS said: It's a bit scary how well this Dream Theater / Rick Astley mashup works. I really like the instrumentals in that. Very good stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
posty 1,945 Posted February 6 So the short version is that Tim doesn't have a man card to turn in... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 298 Posted February 6 12 minutes ago, DonS said: It's a bit scary how well this Dream Theater / Rick Astley mashup works. That’s amazing. Also Mangini smokes Portnoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 968 Posted February 6 44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: “Our side” didn’t decide it; doctors and mental health experts decided it, most of them a long time ago. As a society we’re just starting to accept the truth about it, very reluctantly. Look how long it took us to accept homosexuality. Look at the fight conservatives put up over that. They lost that fight; most conservatives are now accepting of gay people. It took a long time but it happened. Someday they will accept transgenders as well. I like how you single out conservatives. Shall I link videos of Biden and Obama speaking out against gay marriage? Part of the “fight” was that it was a slippery slope, which was dismissed immediately and anyone who said otherwise was labeled a bigot. Well, look at us now. Do you think it would stop here? I don’t even know what could be next in your mind. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,075 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: “Our side” didn’t decide it; doctors and mental health experts decided it, most of them a long time ago. As a society we’re just starting to accept the truth about it, very reluctantly. Look how long it took us to accept homosexuality. Look at the fight conservatives put up over that. They lost that fight; most conservatives are now accepting of gay people. It took a long time but it happened. Someday they will accept transgenders as well. They’re not even in the same ballpark. Gays are starting to express that their movement has been hijacked by the “T”s. Most people would give zero fuks about “T”s if they didn’t try to market the ideology to kids to have surgery or meds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 74 Posted February 6 31 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Let me see if I got this right... Mental illness (mass shootings): Liberals = We need more gun restrictions!! Mental illness (trans community): Liberals = We need to embrace them!! No, you didn't get this right IMO. Most liberals don't think trans folks are mentally ill (although many have gender dysphoria). Also, liberals aren't saying all mass shooters are mentally ill either and a study FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit backs that up: https://mwhealth.org/stories/policy-watch-mass-shootings-mental-illness-what-the-research-tells-us Yes, someone who commits mass murder is clearly emotionally unstable, but a study by the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit of 63 active shooters found that only a quarter of those had a diagnosis of mental illness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonS 2,671 Posted February 6 28 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said: That’s amazing. Also Mangini smokes Portnoy. Mangini is an amazing drummer no doubt. I do miss what Portnoy brought to DT with his song writing and occasional backing vocals though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 752 Posted February 6 33 minutes ago, posty said: So the short version is that Tim doesn't have a man card to turn in... Hey I’m not the Rick Astley fan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 656 Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, Fireballer said: They’re not even in the same ballpark. Gays are starting to express that their movement has been hijacked by the “T”s. Most people would give zero fuks about “T”s if they didn’t try to market the ideology to kids to have surgery or meds. I have also found this to be true among the homosexuals I know IRL. I can't tell you how many conversations I've had about medications being given to children, pronouns, etc. There is no gay movement anymore, IMO. It's LGBTQ-XYZ. You literally can't even single out gay people for inclusion, because trans and others are saying, "What about US?!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 316 Posted February 6 Can they just have an LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ Grammy Show? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 752 Posted February 6 55 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: They will not work themselves out. You start telling trans-females that they cannot win awards for being on a women's sports team and you're back to the "they hate trans" garbage. There are actual examples out there telling trans-females that they can't compete; that's not acceptable to the trans community - they want INCLUSION in ALL OF IT. So, no. It's not going to "work itself out" and you're kind of foolish for suggesting that. It will work itself out. The whole compete in girls sports thing is a very tiny problem. Still I don’t think they should be allowed to do it. Will some of them call me a bigot for thinking this? Probably. There are always extremists out there. I’m sure some blacks people would think I am a racist for opposing reparations and most kinds of affirmative action. But I do oppose them. One can be woke, and progressive, yet still be reasonable. Society will reach reasonable conclusions on all of these matters- we always do. Sometimes it may take a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 752 Posted February 6 9 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said: I have also found this to be true among the homosexuals I know IRL. I can't tell you how many conversations I've had about medications being given to children, pronouns, etc. There is no gay movement anymore, IMO. It's LGBTQ-XYZ. You literally can't even single out gay people for inclusion, because trans and others are saying, "What about US?!" You know this whole “gays are just as intolerant as the rest of us!” or “black people from rural areas hate the woke as much as I do” aren’t exactly compelling arguments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 155 Posted February 6 2 hours ago, Patented Phil said: I love how they frame everything like they just broke through the glass ceiling, conquering all the injustices that had been holding down gays, trannies, and fat people. It’s the same crap I’ve been hearing for years. Newsflash - gays, trannies and fat people have been accepted by the music industry for a long, long time. But hey, gotta have a struggle. Not sure Liberals could live without it. Pretending there weren't any gays at band camp and all afro women singers were skinny until recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 752 Posted February 6 Ted Cruz calls the Grammys evil! Lolololol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kozmiq 69 Posted February 6 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Ted Cruz calls the Grammys evil! Lolololol He prolly saw Madonna. THAT IS truly evil ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 1,758 Posted February 6 46 minutes ago, squistion said: No, you didn't get this right IMO. Most liberals don't think trans folks are mentally ill (although many have gender dysphoria). Also, liberals aren't saying all mass shooters are mentally ill either and a study FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit backs that up: https://mwhealth.org/stories/policy-watch-mass-shootings-mental-illness-what-the-research-tells-us Yes, someone who commits mass murder is clearly emotionally unstable, but a study by the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit of 63 active shooters found that only a quarter of those had a diagnosis of mental illness. Yeah, that's the point. Both are mentally ill (to an extent), the Liberals just categorize them both to fit their narratives. Conservatives treat them the same. Mentally ill mass shooter... have the medical professionals deal with them. Gender dysphoria, have the medical professionals deal with them. Not the liberals though. Because they're anti-gun, it's "let's restrict [or remove], guns/access". Because they're pro-victim, it's "we must accept them the way they are and you're a bigot if you don't". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 1,758 Posted February 6 43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Hey I’m not the Rick Astley fan. I "think" he's referring to the topic at hand, not our offshoot music discussion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dizkneelande 298 Posted February 6 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Ted Cruz calls the Grammys evil! Lolololol Freak dressing as the devil while performing a satanic ritual. Nothing evil about that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheNewGirl 656 Posted February 6 37 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It will work itself out. The whole compete in girls sports thing is a very tiny problem. Still I don’t think they should be allowed to do it. Will some of them call me a bigot for thinking this? Probably. There are always extremists out there. I’m sure some blacks people would think I am a racist for opposing reparations and most kinds of affirmative action. But I do oppose them. One can be woke, and progressive, yet still be reasonable. Society will reach reasonable conclusions on all of these matters- we always do. Sometimes it may take a while. For a country that relies on sports for entertainment, I doubt that it's the "tiny" problem you're playing it off to be. We will see when there is a trans NFL player. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cloaca du jour 1,717 Posted February 6 Dont feed the trolls...jesus. Im not taking any of u to see the animals at the zoo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 1,585 Posted February 6 56 minutes ago, squistion said: No, you didn't get this right IMO. Most liberals don't think trans folks are mentally ill (although many have gender dysphoria). Also, liberals aren't saying all mass shooters are mentally ill either and a study FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit backs that up: https://mwhealth.org/stories/policy-watch-mass-shootings-mental-illness-what-the-research-tells-us Yes, someone who commits mass murder is clearly emotionally unstable, but a study by the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit of 63 active shooters found that only a quarter of those had a diagnosis of mental illness. Uhm, yeah...trans are unstable as well. There 8s a war between the mind and body but somehow you think that's stable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,281 Posted February 6 Thought it was really freaking cool that Bonnie raitt won three grammys. She looked genuinely shocked. Again, that's just great for her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 74 Posted February 6 7 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: Yeah, that's the point. Both are mentally ill (to an extent), the Liberals just categorize them both to fit their narratives. Conservatives treat them the same. Mentally ill mass shooter... have the medical professionals deal with them. Gender dysphoria, have the medical professionals deal with them. Not the liberals though. Because they're anti-gun, it's "let's restrict [or remove], guns/access". Because they're pro-victim, it's "we must accept them the way they are and you're a bigot if you don't". I don't believe that and that wasn't the point I was making. Liberals don't think all trans people are mentally ill and most reputable mental health experts I've seen weigh in on this issue would seem to agree. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 1,758 Posted February 6 23 minutes ago, squistion said: I don't believe that and that wasn't the point I was making. Liberals don't think all trans people are mentally ill and most reputable mental health experts I've seen weigh in on this issue would seem to agree. Oh, I know they don't think trans people are mentally ill. It wasn't until the SJW's forced science (go figure), to change that perspective. Pretty sick if you ask me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 752 Posted February 6 24 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said: It wasn't until the SJW's forced science to change You’ll have to explain how this is possible. I don’t think it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 435 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Ted Cruz calls the Grammys evil! Lolololol He enunciates poorly. He said all Grandmas are evil after watching a trailer for 80 for Brady. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
frank 1,942 Posted February 6 3 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said: For the record, I'm a fan of Elton John, Billy Joel, Peter Cetera, Rick Astley, Phil Collins, and Barry Manilow. I want to party with this dude! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 316 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: Ted Cruz calls the Grammys evil! Lolololol Would you make love to a Trans? Be honest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 752 Posted February 6 1 minute ago, League Champion said: Would you make love to a Trans? Be honest If I was single and she was hot…maybe? I would hope I could overcome my emotional biases, but who knows? I’m as flawed as anyone else, and a victim of my generation’s training. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 316 Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If I was single and she was hot…maybe? You mean if he was hot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 1,758 Posted February 6 15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: You’ll have to explain how this is possible. I don’t think it is. Gender dysphoria was a medical (mental), condition just a few years ago. NOTHING with the science changed, just the way the "scientists" view it. Transgenderism is now more of a social construct than medical condition. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 41 Posted February 6 1 hour ago, kozmiq said: He prolly saw Madonna. THAT IS truly evil ! Madonna used to be somewhat attractive in her own way and was aging gracefully, she destroyed her face with plastic surgery. YIKES! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,094 Posted February 6 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If I was single and she was hot…maybe? I would hope I could overcome my emotional biases, but who knows? I’m as flawed as anyone else, and a victim of my generation’s training. Lol. The best response! These people do exist! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 968 Posted February 6 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: If I was single and she was hot…maybe? I would hope I could overcome my emotional biases, but who knows? I’m as flawed as anyone else, and a victim of my generation’s training. Ewwwww Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 316 Posted February 6 2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Lol. The best response! These people do exist! So he'd bang a dude as long as he was wearing a wig?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 316 Posted February 6 I think that was a Mic drop right there. He's officially out of the closet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
