thegeneral 680 Posted May 12 1 hour ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: you claim not to be a liberal what policy of Trump's do you oppose I have done this shet like 6 times And I am very liberal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 3,214 Posted May 12 37 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I have done this shet like 6 times And I am very liberal. ahh I thought you were the one who claimed they weren't libtarded Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 680 Posted May 12 He’s so neat Only the best people surround this piece of shet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,241 Posted May 12 44 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He’s so neat Only the best people surround this piece of shet That bothers you but only every College in America brings in anti-conservative, ant-Jewish hate mongers to speak on a regular basis to spew hate/divide. C'mon General, you're better than that. Liberals need to practice what they preach, you can't pick and choose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,241 Posted May 12 Is this Liberal Gay Man serious? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 1,183 Posted May 12 Liberals are so stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
League Champion 1,241 Posted May 12 5 hours ago, thegeneral said: And I am very liberal If I'm being 100% honest, I don't know how anyone can be a liberal nowadays. Back in the 80's/90's it was a different story. How can you agree with any of these liberal policies like the border, their stance on crime and not enforcing it, defunding the police free free free everything, the woke BS, the economy, etc? None of this helps your kids, or anyone's for that matter. Are you just stuck in a box and will vote Democrat regardless? I used to vote Democrat, never again, especially in this day & age. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,115 Posted May 12 9 hours ago, thegeneral said: You need someone to tell you how to operate a light switch He also thinks you absolutely have to open a door because someone knocks or rings the bell. Doesn't matter who it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 94 Posted May 12 4 hours ago, League Champion said: If I'm being 100% honest, I don't know how anyone can be a liberal nowadays. Back in the 80's/90's it was a different story. How can you agree with any of these liberal policies like the border, their stance on crime and not enforcing it, defunding the police free free free everything, the woke BS, the economy, etc? None of this helps your kids, or anyone's for that matter. Are you just stuck in a box and will vote Democrat regardless? I used to vote Democrat, never again, especially in this day & age. If you have a family and a good job you are pretty ignorant to vote Democrat unless your biggest concern is global warming. Since more and more global warming is showing to not be the threat as feared I think we will see more Democrats realize their policies are hurting the economy and will flip to Republican. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 I think Trump really offends liberals because he refuses to lie, and they cannot stand honesty. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyKing 83 Posted May 12 So the Dems tried attacking Trump last night and it backfired horribly. Now the Dems aren’t going to do anymore Town Halls because Trump embarrassed them so bad. Especially when Town Halls are for the PEOPLE and NOT for the democrats to attack and grill the other opponent. He destroyed them so much they cut the Town Hall short by 20 minutes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 1,996 Posted May 12 12 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think Trump really offends liberals because he refuses to lie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 Just now, GutterBoy said: Everything he said was clearly honest, crass....vulgar......offensive. But where was the lie? Can you point to one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 1,996 Posted May 12 8 minutes ago, RLLD said: Everything he said was clearly honest, crass....vulgar......offensive. But where was the lie? Can you point to one? Are you talking about just during the CNN townhall or his entire life? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 Just now, GutterBoy said: Are you talking about just during the CNN townhall or his entire life? During the CNN town hall. I infer from your response you are aware of some misrepresentations that refute my assertion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyKing 83 Posted May 12 13 minutes ago, RLLD said: During the CNN town hall. I infer from your response you are aware of some misrepresentations that refute my assertion. Ever notice how the liberals and media went on a fact checking spree last night when Trump was being interviewed but they have yet to fact check the OBVIOUS lies the Biden administration is spouting. Even the reporters are getting fed up with KJP and Bidens lies Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 1,996 Posted May 12 18 minutes ago, RLLD said: During the CNN town hall. I infer from your response you are aware of some misrepresentations that refute my assertion. I laughed because no politician has lied more and is infamous for lying, more than Trump. He's a joke, and I only assumed you were joking, because no sane person can think "Trump doesn't lie" But townhall only, we'll start here, only a dozen or so lies. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/politics/fact-check-donald-trump-town-hall/index.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/trump-cnn-town-hall-fact-check.html If you wanna go with one, my favorite is the border wall, because it was such a hot point in 2016, when he first lied "I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it", which never happened, and he never finished the wall, but he just said this week he finished it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: I laughed because no politician has lied more and is infamous for lying, more than Trump. He's a joke, and I only assumed you were joking, because no sane person can think "Trump doesn't lie" But townhall only, we'll start here, only a dozen or so lies. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/politics/fact-check-donald-trump-town-hall/index.html If you wanna go with one, my favorite is the border wall, because it was such a hot point in 2016, when he first lied "I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it", which never happened, and he never finished the wall, but he just said this week he finished it. Perhaps, but when we look at the velocity and frequency of lies coming from Biden, I just do not see a remarkable difference. Oba,a was a more skilled liar, but still a liar. And this should not come as a shock to us. We could go through the CNN list piece by piece but I do not have the energy for that. Their assertions are at the very least misleading and rather tilted. But again, it is his honesty that sets them off. When he says things he truly believes and it offends them, that is the main problem. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 1,996 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Perhaps, but when we look at the velocity and frequency of lies coming from Biden, I just do not see a remarkable difference. Oba,a was a more skilled liar, but still a liar. And this should not come as a shock to us. We could go through the CNN list piece by piece but I do not have the energy for that. Their assertions are at the very least misleading and rather tilted. But again, it is his honesty that sets them off. When he says things he truly believes and it offends them, that is the main problem. OK, so now you've moved from "Trump refuses to lie" to "Well Biden lies too, and I don't have the time to review Trumps lies" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: OK, so now you've moved from "Trump refuses to lie" to "Well Biden lies too, and I don't have the time to review Trumps lies" Almost, it was a clever strawman, but you failed to read it correctly and continue to try to move the conversation away from the topic, so I will continue to pull it back on. Yes politicians lie. Pretending Trump is the only one, or even the worst one, is something of an immature move. But I get it, you have to make him worse to find your safe place. Pointing this fact out is simply acknowledging it, and that its NOT the way you are trying to twist it. Now, I am a little suprised you did not take the bait I set on the CNN point, but that just confirms your tunnel vision. Did he lie? I am sure he did. Do I care more about his lies than any other politician? Not really....... but my point remains, liberals hate him most for the truths he tells..... notice how they assiduously avoid them and move toward the lies....they cannot debate the truths, so they take something that they all do.....to include and perhaps especially the current president, and they use it to discredit...and this because they cannot hide from their own failures... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 3,560 Posted May 12 13 hours ago, Horseman said: Now you're just making chit up. You're a Timscrotchidiot. I've replaced every single switch in my house and wired 220 out to the hot tub. Facts. 220...221... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 1,996 Posted May 12 54 minutes ago, RLLD said: I think Trump really offends liberals because he refuses to lie, and they cannot stand honesty. 40 minutes ago, RLLD said: But where was the lie? Can you point to one? 2 minutes ago, RLLD said: Did he lie? I am sure he did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 1,996 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said: 220...221... Whatever it takes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Correct on all counts, but you still dont see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 1,996 Posted May 12 10 minutes ago, RLLD said: Correct on all counts, but you still dont see it. He refuses to lie, you want to see the lie, and of course he lies. Don't worry I see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,772 Posted May 12 11 minutes ago, RLLD said: Correct on all counts, but you still dont see it. Trump is just telling you what you want to hear. That's the way I see it. He's a professional and telling his base what they want to here and doing things that get them fired up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 4,607 Posted May 12 13 hours ago, thegeneral said: I don’t believe this guy gives a crap about anyone except his own ego. He ran for the job because Obama made fun of him at the press diner. I appreciate your post however and we can disagree. I don't expect you to agree. Instead I was trying to explain to you the allure of Trump for those who like him. I realize that is probably futile, and you will likely keep thinking (like Cooper does in that pathetic video above) that 1/2 of the country -- your friends, family, neighbors, coworkers -- are racist misogynist insurrectionist phobophobes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 680 Posted May 12 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I don't expect you to agree. Instead I was trying to explain to you the allure of Trump for those who like him. I realize that is probably futile, and you will likely keep thinking (like Cooper does in that pathetic video above) that 1/2 of the country -- your friends, family, neighbors, coworkers -- are racist misogynist insurrectionist phobophobes. I don’t believe I have ever said if you are a Trump supporter you are racist. Now if you are a racist you are most probably a Trump guy. My point is I don’t get how people buy his bullshet. He gave a tax cut to fat cats, his party tries to weaken safety nets for the most poor, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Trump is just telling you what you want to hear. That's the way I see it. He's a professional and telling his base what they want to here and doing things that get them fired up. So then you think people want to hear the name of a cat might be "Vagina"? I joke. All politicians do this, but for some reason its only called out with Trump. And that is my main problem. You know what, if CNN held the current president accounable at the same level as they do Trump I would have no issue. But allowing Biden to do the things they pretend to care about, its laughable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,772 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, RLLD said: All politicians do this, but for some reason its only called out with Trump. And that is my main problem. I fee the same way. You guys call out Biden non stop here and never say anything bad about Trump. No different than going to a site like FBG and seeing them talk non stop about Trump and never criticize Biden. Everyone just wants to hear what they want to hear and they consider that the truth. It's never ending. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyKing 83 Posted May 12 41 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: I laughed because no politician has lied more and is infamous for lying, more than Trump. He's a joke, and I only assumed you were joking, because no sane person can think "Trump doesn't lie" But townhall only, we'll start here, only a dozen or so lies. https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/politics/fact-check-donald-trump-town-hall/index.html https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/10/us/politics/trump-cnn-town-hall-fact-check.html If you wanna go with one, my favorite is the border wall, because it was such a hot point in 2016, when he first lied "I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it", which never happened, and he never finished the wall, but he just said this week he finished it. Dude forgot about Biden and Obama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I fee the same way. You guys call out Biden non stop here and never say anything bad about Trump. No different than going to a site like FBG and seeing them talk non stop about Trump and never criticize Biden. Everyone just wants to hear what they want to hear and they consider that the truth. It's never ending. I feel like I am standing out. I should not have to do it at all. I mean, there was a time when we could rely on the media to do it. But now we hear that the guy who had this nation in a good spot is somehow terrible for doing things that the current guy does....but our lives are much worse. So then....since we get all the things that we declare are bad no matter who is in there, how about we have the guy who makes things better instead? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,181 Posted May 12 7 minutes ago, thegeneral said: He gave a tax cut to fat cats, his party tries to weaken safety nets for the most poor, etc. That alone is enough to get my vote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,772 Posted May 12 1 minute ago, RLLD said: how about we have the guy who makes things better instead? Not everyone agrees that he was responsible for making things better and that's where a big part of the divide is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 4,607 Posted May 12 6 minutes ago, thegeneral said: I don’t believe I have ever said if you are a Trump supporter you are racist. Now if you are a racist you are most probably a Trump guy. My point is I don’t get how people buy his bullshet. He gave a tax cut to fat cats, his party tries to weaken safety nets for the most poor, etc. I don't know the specifics behind your "weaken safety nets" comment, but that tells me you didn't get a word I said. I said his fans don't want safety nets, they want jobs, they want meaning, like most humans. Liberals for some reason are incapable of getting this; they think everyone wants the blue pill. You should read Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl; it's one of the best books ever written, about a man who survived Nazi death camps. I read it when facing death from my cancer, it was transformative. This ties somewhat into your racist comment. If you define racist as "don't think throwing more free stuff at a broken black inner city system is going to fix the problem," then yeah, even though I'm not a Trumper, I'm a racist in your eyes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 3,022 Posted May 12 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: Not everyone agrees that he was responsible for making things better and that's where a big part of the divide is. I get that. I think people use their bias too much in making this assessment. And often they out themselves. Sometimes saying "oh that was befcause Obama did it....." and then when there is something negative....."oh, but THAT one is Trump". I do not care who is in there, though I do prefer Desantis. I care about OUTCOMES. What are the actions and what are the linkable outcomes. The person in there might be a narcissist and and focking douche.....I DO NOT CARE Get the results. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 1,181 Posted May 12 51 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: If you wanna go with one, my favorite is the border wall, because it was such a hot point in 2016, when he first lied "I'll build a wall and make Mexico pay for it", which never happened, and he never finished the wall, but he just said this week he finished it. Right, only 80% of the original 5 billion was completed before Biden stopped it. But, your party goes with zero, or not really a wall, or it's not a new wall because there was a piece of barbed wire laying there before already. One is embellishing, the other is completely detached from reality. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 1,772 Posted May 12 6 minutes ago, RLLD said: The person in there might be a narcissist and and focking douche.....I DO NOT CARE Get the results. I don't disagree with that opinion. I prefer better than that but if that's the only option, then so be it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 680 Posted May 12 3 minutes ago, jerryskids said: I don't know the specifics behind your "weaken safety nets" comment, but that tells me you didn't get a word I said. I said his fans don't want safety nets, they want jobs, they want meaning, like most humans. Liberals for some reason are incapable of getting this; they think everyone wants the blue pill. You should read Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl; it's one of the best books ever written, about a man who survived Nazi death camps. I read it when facing death from my cancer, it was transformative. This ties somewhat into your racist comment. If you define racist as "don't think throwing more free stuff at a broken black inner city system is going to fix the problem," then yeah, even though I'm not a Trumper, I'm a racist in your eyes. What politician hasn’t said they are for getting jobs for people? This is like the most generic boilerplate bullshet ever. Why coming from this doofus that resonated is what is bizarre to me. I define racist probably the same as most a bigoted person who has prejudice against a person based solely on their ethnicity. If you are this, you are most likely a Trump guy. Again, if you are a Trump guy you aren’t automatically a racist. Big congrats on overcoming cancer, that is the worst. I am very glad you won that fight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites