Firearm Ownership & Self Defense : Pregnant Woman With AR-15 Stops Armed Home Invasion

[Blue Horseshoe 94]

On 4/29/2023 at 6:13 PM, cyclone24 said:

You guys want a parade bc a handful of stories on protecting ones home?

 

 

[Rosie O'Donnell 20]

Guns keep people safe.  We need more not less.

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10 hours ago, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

Good for her, she's an Angel. It's too bad that she didn't kill both of the Animals. 

[cyclone24 1,560]

14 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I was going to reply but you curb-stomped him so bad that no reply by me is necessary.   

Lol

[cyclone24 1,560]

16 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

I never once indicated that people that legally obtain firearms don't commit crimes. I stated that you are more likely to have a crime committed on you, with a gun, by someone who cannot legally buy or own a gun. Your premise that bad people only operate in bad areas is ridiculous. You compound that foolishness by assuming that in good areas, the crime is most likely to be perpetrated by a lawful gun owner. 

Again. We have daily…DAILY evidence that legally purchased guns shooting people not in bad neighborhoods, not in slums but in suburbs. In nice areas.
So again to believe your argument would be to say that there are more illegal guns in nice areas than legal ones which is comically stupid. 

Take where I live in Des Moines. There’s a probably 12 square block area with 90% of our shootings. Im guessing the illegal gun ownership is high. Where i live (nice area) the shootings that occur are not from hood rats venturing out to the burbs. Its LEGAL gun owners shooting their spouse, someone going off at a school, etc. NOT illegal guns.

So yes the likelihood im killed by one of them is far higher than some illegal gun because i have far less interactions with those neighborhoods and those people. 
 

Youre trying to take mass numbers and apply them to YOU or me and thats just not realistic or rational 

[Blue Horseshoe 94]

On 4/29/2023 at 6:13 PM, cyclone24 said:

You guys want a parade bc a handful of stories on protecting ones home?

 

 

 

[Blue Horseshoe 94]

Audio reveals moment officer made frantic request for backup moments before taking down Texas mall shooter

....Eight people were killed during the vicious attack that also left seven others injured at the Allen Premium Outlets in Allen, Texas, on Saturday afternoon. The gunman, who has not yet been named, was also shot and killed by police....Just moments before taking the suspect down, a police officer could be heard saying that he “needed everybody I got” in an internal police radio call released on Sunday, the Daily Mail reported. Two minutes after that call, the officer said: “I got him down.”

....Hundreds of mall-goers could be seen trying to flee the scene after the gunman opened fire ....around 3.30pm local time. Aerial footage from local news stations showed the devastating scene at the parking lot as dead bodies, including those of children, were covered in sheets.....Three wounded victims were in critical condition, while four others were in stable condition, he said. Medical City Healthcare spokesperson Janet St James, said their trauma facilities received eight patients between the age of 5 and 61 following the shooting....

.....The violence broke out at around 3.36pm CDT and a police officer who was already at the mall responding to another situation heard gunshots and “engaged the suspect and neutralized the threat,” Allen police chief Brian Harvey told reporters....

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/crime/texas-mall-shooting-allen-gunman-cop-b2334382.html

 

 

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If anyone here was in that mall, would they want a firearm on their person or not? 

The majority of firearm owners in America are law abiding. The faster a "second gun" gets to a shooting as such, the faster the threat can be put down. Whether it's law enforcement or it's a civilian hoping to save their own life and the lives of others. 

[Blue Horseshoe 94]

On 4/29/2023 at 6:13 PM, cyclone24 said:

Many of the legal gun owners are shooting up people outside of their home. Like you couldn’t post all of them that happen every day. It would be a full-time job. But hey, great job finding some obscure ones from years ago, I guess? 

 

 

 

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On 4/29/2023 at 5:33 PM, Mike Honcho said:

Thanks for the breaking news from 2019!

 

 

[Rosie O'Donnell 20]

This is why we need more guns

[cyclone24 1,560]

On 5/13/2023 at 1:57 AM, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

 

You’re missing the point. I don’t really care if you have a legal gun or an illegal gun in your house and you use it in your house. Makes absolutely no difference to me.

what I care about is all of you legal gun owners saying don’t look at us when legal gun owner owners all over the country are shooting places up on a daily basis. 
 

I would also argue I’m not sure I want a bunch of gun owners, playing hero cop in a shoot out at my grocery store or movie theater either… but that’s a discussion for another day
 

again, I would say over 90% of the illegal guns are concentrated in certain areas of your towns you would never step foot in anyway. So who are you probably going to get shot by? A legal gun owner. That’s an issue. 


 

[TBayXXXVII 1,818]

On 5/1/2023 at 12:46 PM, cyclone24 said:

Let’s slow this down. What kind of neighborhoods do you think most illegal guns are in? Bad neighborhoods correct? I don’t know about you but I don’t live in those. I’m nowhere near them. So unless illlegal gun guy in a terrible neighborhood feels like trotting out to the suburbs, which isn’t terribly likely, I’m probably OK. 
I’m far more likely trotting into the mall that’s a quarter mile away and some jerk off that lost his job or something crazy with his legally purchase a gun start shooting up the place. I mean my God how many stories do you need a day of legal guns shooting up schools or workplaces?

In your opinion, what's an acceptable number of deaths where you would say, "well, hey, it's a right we have and these are some of the risks that come with them, let's just try to be more responsible", and walk away without complaint?

[cyclone24 1,560]

On 5/15/2023 at 8:52 AM, TBayXXXVII said:

In your opinion, what's an acceptable number of deaths where you would say, "well, hey, it's a right we have and these are some of the risks that come with them, let's just try to be more responsible", and walk away without complaint?

Not avoiding your question, but I don’t think you can really quantify it. If you have a school shooting where five kids get killed, everyone’s going to say that’s bad and it’s 5 too many. If you have 20 people killed breaking into homes in that same neighborhood everyone’s going to justify all 20. 
 

And their most definitely is a WHO is getting killed component to it. Do we really care about daily gangbangers? Of course not. 

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46 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Not avoiding your question, but I don’t think you can really quantify it. If you have a school shooting where five kids get killed, everyone’s going to say that’s bad and it’s 5 too many. If you have 20 people killed breaking into homes in that same neighborhood everyone’s going to justify all 20. 
 

And their most definitely is a WHO is getting killed component to it. Do we really care about daily gangbangers? Of course not. 

That's pretty much the same argument one could make (and did make), about alcohol/drunk driving related deaths.  Out of curiosity, how well did banning alcohol go over in the US?

You do realize that drunk driving related deaths are only about half as often as gun related deaths (not counting suicides), right?  On average, there's about 25k people killed by gun and 12k killed by a drunk driver in a year.

[cyclone24 1,560]

2 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

That's pretty much the same argument one could make (and did make), about alcohol/drunk driving related deaths.  Out of curiosity, how well did banning alcohol go over in the US?

You do realize that drunk driving related deaths are only about half as often as gun related deaths (not counting suicides), right?  On average, there's about 25k people killed by gun and 12k killed by a drunk driver in a year.

I know we can’t do it, but I would ban alcohol. It is a societal detriment that kills and provides absolutely nothing positive other than approximately 99% of me getting laid through college.  

I mean, I know what you’re going after, but it’s it’s like saying why worry about this when cancer kills more people or insert whatever you want. None of it is good. 

[Blue Horseshoe 94]

On 4/29/2023 at 6:13 PM, cyclone24 said:

You guys want a parade bc a handful of stories on protecting ones home? Woo hoo! It’s what it’s SOPPOSED to be for. 
 

 

 

Resident tried to keep intruder out of home before fatal shooting, Texas cops say

..... While a Texas resident was on the phone with police, an intruder forced his way into her home, authorities said. That intruder was then shot and killed. A woman called 911 at about 5:30 a.m. Tuesday, April 18, reporting that a man was breaking into a home in northeast Austin.... “The female resident stated that a male was banging on her door and that he was trying to knock the door down and that the resident was trying to hold the door closed,” .... Then, while still on the call with dispatchers, police said she reported that the man was trying to force his way in through a window. “The caller then stated that the male suspect had entered into the home,” ....The caller’s last update was that shots had been fired. Officers arrived at the home at 5:37 a.m., police said, and EMS arrived shortly after. The man accused of breaking into the home was pronounced dead about 10 minutes later....

....“This was a very, very tragic incident and one of the residents did shoot the male suspect in self defense,”.... No charges have been filed, though an investigation is ongoing...

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article274456775.html

[cyclone24 1,560]

On 5/22/2023 at 3:38 PM, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

Resident tried to keep intruder out of home before fatal shooting, Texas cops say

..... While a Texas resident was on the phone with police, an intruder forced his way into her home, authorities said. That intruder was then shot and killed. A woman called 911 at about 5:30 a.m. Tuesday, April 18, reporting that a man was breaking into a home in northeast Austin.... “The female resident stated that a male was banging on her door and that he was trying to knock the door down and that the resident was trying to hold the door closed,” .... Then, while still on the call with dispatchers, police said she reported that the man was trying to force his way in through a window. “The caller then stated that the male suspect had entered into the home,” ....The caller’s last update was that shots had been fired. Officers arrived at the home at 5:37 a.m., police said, and EMS arrived shortly after. The man accused of breaking into the home was pronounced dead about 10 minutes later....

....“This was a very, very tragic incident and one of the residents did shoot the male suspect in self defense,”.... No charges have been filed, though an investigation is ongoing...

https://www.star-telegram.com/news/state/texas/article274456775.html

Uhhhhhhhhgain..for the 100th time.

 

IN HOME. Great…use a bazooka in YOUR home i dont care. 

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On 5/1/2023 at 9:03 PM, Blue Horseshoe said:

 

 

Socioeconomics. They’re just hungry. Right Tim?